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Please for the love of god people read this. It is not so much engineering fail as it was as a result of building limitations since they had to construct on an existing structure, hence the cloth roof. Constructing a metal roof would've required building a entirely new stadium and hence more $$$$$. They just had to make the most cost effective decision and built on an existing structure.
Basically if a freak rainstorm just happens to down pour, it will just make the players wet. They just have to make sure and look at the weather conditions before they retract or open the roof. It really is a non-issue.
but the question still remains: why was a retractable roof necessary? what events could they NOT have held with a closed roof?
or is this an issue akin to choosing a convertible car because it's figuratively cooler?
or were there physical limitations for building a closed roof as well?
or is this an issue akin to choosing a convertible car because it's figuratively cooler?
Ding Ding Ding!
They had 1/2 a billion burning a hole in their pocket and had to spend it on something.
Funny, BC place can get a 500 million dollar roof but Victoria can't get 50 million to replace a nearly condemned rusting to shit 100 year old bridge that feeds into the downtown core. Fuck you very much BC Liberals!
I don't think this is a big deal personally. Like other cities with retractable roofs they plan ahead as well. Even the Mariners and Bluejays rarely run into a situation where they need to suddenly close the roof because they plan ahead and close it just in case anyways. Meh stupid media.
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because it's less expensive to build something from the ground up than Demolish an existing structure, engineer the new structure, and build ontop of a pre existing frame?
Cowboys stadium cost 1 billion btw, how old is Qwest field now? 10 years at least?
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because it's less expensive to build something from the ground up than Demolish an existing structure, engineer the new structure, and build ontop of a pre existing frame?
Uhhh, they built Qwest Field over the old Kingdome.
For $500 million they could've built a goddamn 12 feet thick concrete blastproof roof that would retract in the middle of a fucking nuclear strike, let alone a rainy day.
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Pretty sure the demolishion, cleanup, and rebuild of qwest totalled more than 500 Posted via RS Mobile
Even if demolition costs brought the total over 500mil, they got an entire NEW stadium. We're getting a fabric roof with a design flaw. We're getting a shitty deal.
One has to keep in mind that the Cowboys stadium is in the middle of no where while BC Place is in a prime location. I think that should be factored in a bit here personally. Would I have preferred tearing Bc Place down, playing at Empire for a couple few years instead? Sure, but this is what we got and I'm sure it will be dope.
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One has to keep in mind that the Cowboys stadium is in the middle of no where while BC Place is in a prime location. I think that should be factored in a bit here personally. Would I have preferred tearing Bc Place down, playing at Empire for a couple few years instead? Sure, but this is what we got and I'm sure it will be dope.
i think a majority of the public would have rather opted for a new stadium if cost was gonna be similar to a new roof... but im sure the fact that they wanted to host the 2011 grey cup here had something to do with a quick time frame for construction so they opted to go the current route.
im still puzzled as to why this whole "can only close at certain times" fiasco was not disclosed before any building permits were issued.
one of two things happened here...
whoever designed the roof knew and never said anything...
or
the government knew about it from the beginning but opted to go ahead with it and only disclose it to the public once construction was past the point of no return.
i find it ironic that construction is this far along and we were just told about it now.
The government probably opted for it because it was the cheaper option, and didnt know everyone would make big stink about it.
If you were to build a brand new stadium in the middle of downtown with todays pricing, I'm pretty sure it would be close to what the Dallas Cowboys paid.
i think a majority of the public would have rather opted for a new stadium if cost was gonna be similar to a new roof... but im sure the fact that they wanted to host the 2011 grey cup here had something to do with a quick time frame for construction so they opted to go the current route.
im still puzzled as to why this whole "can only close at certain times" fiasco was not disclosed before any building permits were issued.
one of two things happened here...
whoever designed the roof knew and never said anything...
or
the government knew about it from the beginning but opted to go ahead with it and only disclose it to the public once construction was past the point of no return.
i find it ironic that construction is this far along and we were just told about it now.
My point is I don't believe it would ha been close to the price of the new roof at all. Oh wells too late now =\
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If you were to build a brand new stadium in the middle of downtown with todays pricing, I'm pretty sure it would be close to what the Dallas Cowboys paid.
The land is already paid for. Also, Cowboy stadium seats 110,000 (Compared to the 55,000 of BC place). That's a huge a factor for how much that stadium cost. We couldn't possibly support a 110,000 seat stadium in Vancouver.
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Lol I have to say... 1st two pages of this thread are a great example of people just going along in order to belong.
Page 1:
someone posts the news article stating the stadium has engineering problems.
The responses:
"OMG WTFBBQ LOL enginering FAIL FAIL FAIL bwahaha waste of money!!!"
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someone posts an article that says "this issue has been known for awhile" and someone says it's being blown out of proportion"
the responses now become:
"yea jeez! I don't know why everyone's complaining, this was a better decsion!! people stop blowing it out of proportion."
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Page 3:
beginning of some dialogue/debate instead of "he said, she said" crap.
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stop jumping on the bandwagon and think for yourselves, you only look like an ass when you agree just to agree.
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edit: this is basically how the first 2 pages of the thread play out:
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