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11-12-2010, 06:03 PM
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holy fuck they had like 10 cranes going at once your lucky to see 2 or 3 going at once in canada
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11-12-2010, 06:18 PM
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A lot of the comments from some users here aren't getting the point. The highlight of the video has nothing to do with cheap labour and hardwork, it's about the prefab process. Think of it like ikea furniture, it's all made with holes/screws included and if you could put together a lego set as a kid you could easily put together a piece of their furniture. It saves space and materials but also ultimately money to do it this way, rather than to have a regular furniture store stock furniture that's pre assembled. As long as you properly design something so that your average joe could figure out, time can be saved dramatically and a lot of stress.
It's very cost effective to do things this way and it's not the concept of cheap/fast chinese work that the story is about.
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11-12-2010, 06:30 PM
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in canada it woulda taken them 4 months to build that thing
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11-12-2010, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp  Exactly. I've stayed in many hotels and apartments in China, and the workmanship is ALWAYS (not sometimes, ALWAYS) shit. Even "nice" apartments, gated communities, etc.
One place I stayed at was beautifully decorated, fully landscaped, managed, etc. But the drains in the bathroom weren't done properly, so after you shower, the entire bathroom is filled with water.  | agreed, i recently went to china, changsha hangzhou shanghai etc, they don't know how to maintain it, they can build it really nicely, but they don't do renovations to keep it looking nice, after a few years it looks like a 20 year old hotel in vancouver
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11-12-2010, 07:08 PM
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11-12-2010, 08:27 PM
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#31 | | I don't get it
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cool but no thanks....
not sure about many of you but I for one wouldn't wanna live in or own something I wouldn't feel safe inside regardless of how fast it will get built.
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11-12-2010, 08:30 PM
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chinese ppl are amazing
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11-12-2010, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ilvtofu A lot of the comments from some users here aren't getting the point. The highlight of the video has nothing to do with cheap labour and hardwork, it's about the prefab process. Think of it like ikea furniture, it's all made with holes/screws included and if you could put together a lego set as a kid you could easily put together a piece of their furniture. It saves space and materials but also ultimately money to do it this way, rather than to have a regular furniture store stock furniture that's pre assembled. As long as you properly design something so that your average joe could figure out, time can be saved dramatically and a lot of stress.
It's very cost effective to do things this way and it's not the concept of cheap/fast chinese work that the story is about. |
Excatly, also it does a lot less harm to the environment.
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11-12-2010, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by dbaz holy fuck they had like 10 cranes going at once your lucky to see 2 or 3 going at once in canada | this. most apartments that are built here you only see 1 crane. and in china if you look at the timelapse you can see that they work 24/7 with like 7 cranes with the place filled with workers. whereas here they only work half a day or less. sometimes people arnt even working cause "parts arnt here yet". in china the rules are pretty strict too.
you can tell people in china work efficiently just from the roads. instead of digging up the old road and repave and all that (for example 41st ave right now) in china they have pieces of the roads already made (like lego pieces) and they simply just take out the old road and put in the new piece. job done fast and efficiently and they also work at night when traffic is low. whereas in canada they work during rushhours  | |
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11-12-2010, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 737! this. most apartments that are built here you only see 1 crane. and in china if you look at the timelapse you can see that they work 24/7 with like 7 cranes with the place filled with workers. whereas here they only work half a day or less. sometimes not even working cause "parts arnt here yet". in china the rules are pretty strict too. you can tell from the roads. instead of digging up the old road and repave and all that (for example 41st ave right now) in china they have pieces of the roads already made (like lego pieces) and they simply just take out the old road and put in the new piece. job done fast and efficiently and they also work at night when traffic is low. whereas in canada they work during rushhours | You mean like the 99 right now? Where getting stuck in traffic for 2 hours is a must?
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11-12-2010, 10:20 PM
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#36 | | I don't get it
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you know the building is not safe now. | ^lol | |
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11-12-2010, 10:26 PM
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like freakin ants building a colony out of no where. freakin ants man.
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11-12-2010, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by StevenDuang Excatly, also it does a lot less harm to the environment. | what good is an environmentally sustainable building when the building itself could be a safety hazard to its occupants
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11-12-2010, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 737! you can tell people in china work efficiently just from the roads. instead of digging up the old road and repave and all that (for example 41st ave right now) in china they have pieces of the roads already made (like lego pieces) and they simply just take out the old road and put in the new piece. job done fast and efficiently and they also work at night when traffic is low. whereas in canada they work during rushhours | I hate those prefab concrete slabs on roads. They're similar to what the States have on the I5. Every couple seconds... thunk...thunk...thunk. Sure, I'm probably a bit more annoyed by 'em because my suspension is nice and stiff, but even when I'm in a stock car they're annoying to go over.
As for working at night time, it's not like they don't do that here. Sure, it's usually on roads like Hwy1 and 99, but that's because if you did road work on something like W41 you'd get a thousand complaints from home owners about the noise.
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11-12-2010, 10:53 PM
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Most people are making judgments about the building merely because it was built fast. Built fast does not constitute engineered poorly. They are not the same thing.
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11-12-2010, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by LiquidTurbo Most people are making judgments about the building merely because it was built fast. Built fast does not constitute engineered poorly. They are not the same thing. | Especially when they used prefabbed sections and just bolted them together. But as someone mentioned earlier, if they were using raw beams and putting it all together at the site, it would definitely take much longer. The reason why it's usually not done here is because most of our roads aren't capable of transporting those giant built sections of steel, or if they are, there'd be too many complaints about roads being closed to accommodate the extra wide loads.
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11-12-2010, 11:07 PM
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11-13-2010, 12:55 AM
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you know how precise each one of those sections has to be to make a squared building?
pre-engineered metal framing HERE has a shit load of problems if not installed right, not to mention other pre-fabbed stuff like truss's etc. if they are not meticulously installed, your whole house is out of wack and walls and ceilings run into angled corners etc.
I'd say it's fairly safe to say that yes, this building is infact built poorly, the argument whether it's structurally sound or not is another matter, but imo to put together 16 stories over 6 days, theres no way in hell the time was spent on each floor to make sure you are level etc.
one floor in that building 1/8th of an inch off, causes the whole building to be off, and the frame being installed over 6 days doesn't have any additional flex or settlement once 15+ more stories are installed on top of it shortly after?
shit is garbage holmes
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11-13-2010, 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer you know how precise each one of those sections has to be to make a squared building?
pre-engineered metal framing HERE has a shit load of problems if not installed right, not to mention other pre-fabbed stuff like truss's etc. if they are not meticulously installed, your whole house is out of wack and walls and ceilings run into angled corners etc.
I'd say it's fairly safe to say that yes, this building is infact built poorly, the argument whether it's structurally sound or not is another matter, but imo to put together 16 stories over 6 days, theres no way in hell the time was spent on each floor to make sure you are level etc.
one floor in that building 1/8th of an inch off, causes the whole building to be off, and the frame being installed over 6 days doesn't have any additional flex or settlement once 15+ more stories are installed on top of it shortly after?
shit is garbage holmes | You know precise the pyramids are? Building those were a hell of a lot more difficult than this.
The fact is, we have no idea how theses modular pieces were designed. What if the building is structurally sound?
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one floor in that building 1/8th of an inch off, causes the whole building to be off, and the frame being installed over 6 days doesn't have any additional flex or settlement once 15+ more stories are installed on top of it shortly after?
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11-13-2010, 01:39 AM
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that's pretty cool. They should film more structures being built like that.
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11-13-2010, 02:07 AM
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#46 | | Fathered more RS members than anybody else. Who's your daddy?
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BWAHAHAHAHA................
I had one of those reading fail moments. I saw the caption on the youtube video and thought I saw, "Ark Hotel Time Colapse Building 15 S..."
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11-13-2010, 02:07 AM
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this reminds me of warcraft or starcraft.
build your shit up quickly before others and then once it's finished, start attacking people who are way behind.
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11-13-2010, 02:26 AM
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11-13-2010, 03:07 AM
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reminds me of a national geographic show that was on the other day where they showed the construction of some olympic buildings in China the bracing posts that they were installing some were too short; some didn't arrive; some weren't structurally sound
for the short ones they just jacked them up with some o-rings until they were the same height as the others -_-
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11-13-2010, 03:24 AM
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hmm.... it doesnt look strong... but time is money, right?
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