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Old 11-24-2010, 12:53 AM   #101
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my armchair retired-general's perspective

US are fully backing SK and presently have at least 24k ground troops stationed near the nk/sk border. with anti-missile shield carriers stationed off the shores of SK, and the fact that SK and NK's armies are about the same size (nukes aside, guys, nukes aside), it looks like NK is just itching to get steam rolled.

sk has a low risk for missiles impacting their city with their current theatre missile defense systems, and US carriers and their own missile shields, but even if 1 nuke slipped past all the missile defense systems, then SK's fucked and economy would go back down to shit

president lee from sk said there's no more warnings after this; next incident is war. i think he should do a cost-benefit analysis of the alternatives for the next 2 years:

1) do nothing; potentially lose 100's lives in next couple years, millions in dollars (following trend from last 5 years)
2) attack only when attacked; could escalate situation, which would inevitably bring it to alternative 3
3) attack n.k.; potentially lose millions of lives, cost billions in dollars, and take decades to rebuild economy and infrastructure
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War is inevitable in my opinion, the NK leadership is unstable, desperate and has been backed into a corner. Their acts of war will only continue to escalate until SK has no option but to eliminate the threat, at which point NK will throw its full military might at the world. I use military might loosely considering everything they possess is outdated, there population is starving in peace times and their only ally will likely turn against them.
I don't expect WW3, although I wouldn't be surprised if there was a nuclear device detonated on the Korean peninsula, but I do expect a new Vietnam. The NK people have been so brainwashed by their neurotic, paranoid leaders that I believe many will fight to the death before accepting a united Korea. The NK leadership have been elevated from the status of mortals to gods in their society, those loyal to them will behave as if they were defending their saviors.

My only hope is that the United States, in their infinite wisdom, refrains from retailiating to a nuclear attack with more nukes. That would WW3.

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Old 11-24-2010, 06:56 AM   #104
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NK will not do anything without getting China's backing... and like always, china uses NK as bargaing chip.
All permanent SC members condemed NK except CHINA, which said both countries must back down.

All said, now the US is sending its AC fleet to Korean waters, it may irk NK more to see unfriendly forces multiply in thr backyard.
Even though SK is technically far ahead in military hardware, NK has way more conventional military hardware , and nukes (even though non of thr nuke delievery missiles are reliable).
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dont think korea would become that powerful.

but its bound to happen down the road, that they become united again. but not without consequences and sacrifice.
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All permanent SC members condemed NK except CHINA, which said both countries must back down.
Yup China has done that every time NK does something aggressive... "both of you, stop it!"

It's getting pretty obvious
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north korea says they will attack again if basically any more military movements are made against them
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north korea says they will attack again if basically any more military movements are made against them
and there has been .... south korea strengths troops @ border and US just sent over a battle carrier

north korea just waiting for china's nod and then all hell will break loose
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president lee from sk said there's no more warnings after this; next incident is war. i think he should do a cost-benefit analysis of the alternatives for the next 2 years:

1) do nothing; potentially lose 100's lives in next couple years, millions in dollars (following trend from last 5 years)
2) attack only when attacked; could escalate situation, which would inevitably bring it to alternative 3
3) attack n.k.; potentially lose millions of lives, cost billions in dollars, and take decades to rebuild economy and infrastructure
whoa,... cost benefit analysis.. you sound like my econ prof.. lol
NK will probably throw up some propaganda when they get attacked
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and there has been .... south korea strengths troops @ border and US just sent over a battle carrier

north korea just waiting for china's nod and then all hell will break loose
and you think that's likely to happen?
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and there has been .... south korea strengths troops @ border and US just sent over a battle carrier

north korea just waiting for china's nod and then all hell will break loose
they apparently meant anything further than that? i was too lazy to read whole article.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapc...sis/index.html
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and there has been .... south korea strengths troops @ border and US just sent over a battle carrier

north korea just waiting for china's nod and then all hell will break loose
realistically, china wont give the nod.
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and there has been .... south korea strengths troops @ border and US just sent over a battle carrier

north korea just waiting for china's nod and then all hell will break loose
There's a higher chance of China annihilating the North Korean regime on their own than to go to into a war against the US.
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Sarah Palin on Glenn Beck:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/sarah...thsouth-korea/

I can't believe this woman would run for candidacy
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As part of her media blitz, Ms Palin called in to the nationally syndicated Beck show. When she was asked about the escalating conflict in Asia she said it was worrying that the Obama administration could not be trusted to take the appropriate action.

“We're not having a lot of faith that the White House is going to come out with a strong enough policy to sanction what it is that North Korea is going to do. So this speaks to a bigger picture here that certainly scares me in terms of our national security policies,” she said.

“But obviously we gotta stand with our North Korean allies.”

The host interjected after her second slip of the tongue to point out that South Korea was the real US ally. “Err, yeah,” she said.
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War is inevitable in my opinion, the NK leadership is unstable, desperate and has been backed into a corner. Their acts of war will only continue to escalate until SK has no option but to eliminate the threat, at which point NK will throw its full military might at the world. I use military might loosely considering everything they possess is outdated, there population is starving in peace times and there only ally will likely turn against them.
I don't expect WW3, although I wouldn't be surprised if there was a nuclear device detonated on the Korean peninsula, but I do expect a new Vietnam. The NK people have been so brainwashed by their neurotic, paranoid leaders that I believe many will fight to the death before accepting a united Korea. The NK leadership have been elevated from the status of mortals to gods in their society, those loyal to them will behave as if they were defending their saviors.

My only hope is that the United States, in their infinite wisdom, refrains from retailiating to a nuclear attack with more nukes. That would WW3.
What makes you think their ally SOUTH KOREA would allow them to nuke North Korea? Makes no sense whatsoever.
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What makes you think their ally SOUTH KOREA would allow them to nuke North Korea? Makes no sense whatsoever.
If SK got nuked, i'm pretty darned sure SK would consider straight up just annihilating its evil twin brother NK.
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If SK got nuked, i'm pretty darned sure SK would consider straight up just annihilating its evil twin brother NK.
If South Korea got nuked I don't exactly follow how they're going to be able to retaliate.
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