Olympic City (Time lapse)

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Originally Posted by woob

If I could pick another place to live, it would have to be Portland, OR.

I live in Portland now, the food sucks as there is very few immigrants.

[adambomb]

Well... If Vancouver sucks so much. Please post some places you would rather live and why?

Consider quality of living, employement opportunities, weather, cost of living, accessibility, government influence, taxes, food quality.

Think about your old high school class if you grew up in the GVRD. How many grads have left Vancouver, how many are still here today? Then ask people you know that grew up somewhere else but now call Vancouver home and ask them why they came here and when do they plan on moving back?


Don't just say Vancouver sucks and walk away.
That's fucking gay. fucking gay as hell.

[red_2]

damn those lights are cooL!

[jstn86]

Vancouver is a good city for a late 30's or early 40's professional

It's tough for a fresh grad to land a job with a high salary.

Vancouver is a good leisure city. Good climate (for Canada) awesome sights and nice people.

But in terms of growing your career or owning a business, you have to go to Toronto (in Canada) or go to the states.

I still love Vancouver though. I don't bitch and complain. Haha

[A-Dev]

YouTube

[Volvo-brickster]

Originally Posted by FRESHvibe

Wow, watching this made me miss the Olympics

Seeing as the olympic village is still a ghost town, if Russia falls through and we get the 2014 olympics there will be lots of housing still available for the athletes

[LiquidTurbo]

Lomac =

Seems like people will find an excuse to bitch about anything these days. Pretty sure those immigrants that didn't make it on that rusty ass boat weren't going to complain about Vancouver like some of you guys are.

It's really quite simple.. if you don't like the place you are currently residing in, then MOVE! Yes it's really that simple! Bitching and complaining about it certainly won't help yourself out.

Vancouver is a bit more expensive compared to other cities but for more people I think, the pro's outweigh the cons.

Where else in the world can you go for World class Skiing, then come to eat one of the most eclectic amounts of restaurants around, beautiful summers, mild weather, and fantastic air and water? Decent healthcare, low traffic (compared to any major city in the world), nice Universities. The only rival city that I see in my mind is San Francisco. For me I really enjoy the outdoors so I really think BC is an amazing place. Most people that live in Vancouver haven't even see the sheer amount of beauty that this province has.

Seriously though, if you have some beef with Vancouver then just have the courage to move somewhere else instead of bitching about it to people who are more than content to live here. Too many people with a sense of entitlement. Reminds me of that thread of the guy complaining about BCIT.

[4444]

Originally Posted by adambomb

Well... If Vancouver sucks so much. Please post some places you would rather live and why?

Consider quality of living, employement opportunities, weather, cost of living, accessibility, government influence, taxes, food quality.

Think about your old high school class if you grew up in the GVRD. How many grads have left Vancouver, how many are still here today? Then ask people you know that grew up somewhere else but now call Vancouver home and ask them why they came here and when do they plan on moving back?


Don't just say Vancouver sucks and walk away.
That's fucking gay. fucking gay as hell.

san diego

quality of living - nicer climate (generally accepted as the best climate in hte world), - and the beaches - kits got top 10 in the world in a pole recently... clearly these people haven't been to coronado, or along near la jolla, or anywhere along the southern california coastline (and i love wave watersports, boogie boarding, surfing - can't do that hear, and tofino is ok, but only truely accessible for a short time (i won't surf when its cold & cloudy) - plus you need to take government controlled ferries to get there, so your cost is through the roof to surf in tofino compared to so. cal

employment opportunities? way more head offices and large corporate centres than vancouver, i'm a CA, and i have pages and pages of jobs i could do, getting paid AT LEAST 10-20% if not more than what i earn now (and i do ok for myself as is, working for one of the best, if not hte best company in vnacouver)

weather - already gone over that

cost of living - WAY cheaper down there, housing is significantly cheaper than vnacouver, you get way more for your buck down there, i could live in a fine downtown san diego apartment for same or less than a sub par downtown vnacouver apartment... plus downtown san diego is WAY cleaner than vancouver, a lot bigger, but has really cool areas, such as the gas lamp region (about 20 times better than yaletown) + yaletown has the douchebaggery of the people who hang out there, thinking they're cool as they're drinking $12 martini's... fools, you can go to a rooftop bar in san diego, overlooking the baseball stadium (you can watch games there) - beers are $8, no cover, awesome place (fire pit, outdoor bar, + hte baseball - i don't like baseball, but its cool to go and watch a couple of innings)

accesibility? its the US, if you own a car, you can get anywhere in 10 mins in san diego, traffic is SIGNIFICANTLY better than here, there is public transit there too.... but i don't use public transit here (i used to, and thought the service was terrible)

government influence, almost non existant compared to here

taxes - california + fed taxes approimate rates in BC, but BC is the most cpaitalist place in canada, california is hte most socialist. But this is not the end of the story, the amount of additional deductions you get (i.e. mortgage payment (interest on)), is ridiculous, thus you will pay less personal tax. corporate taxes are higher, however you can just set up flow throughs (LLC's) in the US, so no corporate taxes.

food quality - when i was last down there (i lived in so cal as a kid, spend at least 2 weeks a year there), i didn't have enough time to eat all the food i found in like 10 mins of searching, amazing variety, and quality/price is through the roof... donavan's steakhouse is way better htan any vancouver has to offer, plus, so much seafood, italian restaurants... less asian food, but i don't eat chinese, there's sushi there, and loads of strip bars (due to navy/air force presence)

overall san diego is an awesome place for young people, compared to vnacouver, cheaper, way better infrastructure, great atmosphere EVERYnight in gas lamp, way more career opportunities, and overall you quality of life will be WAY higher

and before anyone mentoins mexicans, hte majority go to LA, why owuld they want to hang out in san diego, a city of 2+mil compared to 10+ mil where there is more 'low skilled' positions (sorry to generalize, but most immigrant mexicans will be low skilled employees)

as i say, vnacouver is good, much better than my native england (well, nowadays at least, since we've f'd up and let anyone into our coutnry and provide them with socialist programs)... but san diego offers so much more

also a LOT of ppl i know have gone to uni here, couldn't find jobs, and are now in asia... we have NO job market here, its VERY hard to make a good living here... i earn a lot compared to most people my age, and i'm not happy with what that affords me here compared to so. cal

[4444]

Originally Posted by LiquidTurbo

Lomac =

Seems like people will find an excuse to bitch about anything these days. Pretty sure those immigrants that didn't make it on that rusty ass boat weren't going to complain about Vancouver like some of you guys are.

It's really quite simple.. if you don't like the place you are currently residing in, then MOVE! Yes it's really that simple! Bitching and complaining about it certainly won't help yourself out.

Vancouver is a bit more expensive compared to other cities but for more people I think, the pro's outweigh the cons.

Where else in the world can you go for World class Skiing, then come to eat one of the most eclectic amounts of restaurants around, beautiful summers, mild weather, and fantastic air and water? Decent healthcare, low traffic (compared to any major city in the world), nice Universities. The only rival city that I see in my mind is San Francisco. For me I really enjoy the outdoors so I really think BC is an amazing place. Most people that live in Vancouver haven't even see the sheer amount of beauty that this province has.

Seriously though, if you have some beef with Vancouver then just have the courage to move somewhere else instead of bitching about it to people who are more than content to live here. Too many people with a sense of entitlement. Reminds me of that thread of the guy complaining about BCIT.

compared to many cities, the food here is not actually that good

our access to fresh ingredients is great, but our restaurants aren't tat great... unless you're talking chinese restaurants.. most 'western' restaurants are just chachi zones here, same crap mediocre food for stupid prices

skiing is good here... personally i'm a water guy, and the water here is questionable at the best (i daren't go swimming at any local beach, i was thinking about it this summer, walked down, saw the unnatural sludge in the water & the smell of dog shit.. and decided against it)

vancouverites are WAY to full of themselves and way to canadacentric

canada's a good place, but nothing more, we need to come together, realize the weaknesses (which ALL start with our government) and create some change

i'm not a communist, but i find it amazing that the NDP still hasn't gotten rid of carole james, she's a retard has lost, lost, and lost - why don't htey change her? htat to me TELLS me that there's sometihng wrong with government here... and trust me, i'm glad she's not gone, as with her as their leader, NDP will never be in power

[asian_XL]

Originally Posted by stylez2k4

I have been to countless cities in 22 different countries across 4 continents and Vancouver is one of the best cities I have been to.

You have been to countless cities, but you have never actually lived in one of them. Best city is all about your social network, your working opportunities and your living expectation, not base on "I have been there and it sucks".

If you are a oil driller, ibanker, or prairies farmers, Vancouver is probably is the worst town in Canada.

[4444]

Originally Posted by asian_XL

You have been to countless cities, but you have never actually lived in one of them. Best city is all about your social network, your working opportunities and your living expectation, not base on "I have been there and it sucks".

If you are a oil driller, ibanker, or prairies farmers, Vancouver is probably is the worst town in Canada.

in fact, what is a good industry/career path to be in in vnacouveR?

drug dealer?
government worker

those are the only 2 i can think of

[jigga250]

Originally Posted by 4444

san diego
plus downtown san diego is WAY cleaner than vancouver, a lot bigger,

HIGHLY debatable with regard to cleanliness. I'm not sure what you mean by "a lot bigger". If you mean in size, thats just plain not true. If you mean by amount of people living there, again, completely untrue. In comparison to DT Vancouver, DT San Diego is a ghost town after 5pm...there just isn't the population density (about one third).

but has really cool areas, such as the gas lamp region (about 20 times better than yaletown) + yaletown has the douchebaggery of the people who hang out there, thinking they're cool as they're drinking $12 martini's...

Totally subjective. You don't think San Diego has its share of d-bags? Especially WITH a military base?!?
Seems like nostalgia has tainted your opinion.

accesibility? its the US, if you own a car, you can get anywhere in 10 mins in san diego, traffic is SIGNIFICANTLY better than here

Bullshit on both counts.

government influence, almost non existant compared to here

Maybe you don't HEAR about it, and their problems, as much because you live HERE?!

taxes - california + fed taxes approimate rates in BC, but BC is the most cpaitalist place in canada, california is hte most socialist.

Not sure what you mean by that. Ever heard of ALBERTA?

and before anyone mentoins mexicans, hte majority go to LA, why owuld they want to hang out in san diego, a city of 2+mil compared to 10+ mil where there is more 'low skilled' positions (sorry to generalize, but most immigrant mexicans will be low skilled employees)

Sure most will go to LA simply because its a larger city, but the city is still 28% hispanic. I'd rather not deal with uninsured illegals crashing into me or drug related violence spilling over from Tijuana.


I don't disagree with everything you say, I'm sure SD is a great place for young people, but its definitely not as rosy as you make it sound. The fact that you lived there as a kid (when you probably didnt notice alot of the downsides), and only visit for a couple weeks a year, probably means there are a lot of negatives you havent been exposed to, while only being there on vacation and associating it with good memories.

[3klipze]

zzz. this is has became an off topic debate about living in vancouver.

this probably going to be over 100 pages long if you people keep this up.

btw, nice video.. i really enjoyed the other vancouver time lapse video as well

[MindBomber]

If Vancouver wasn't an absolutely amazing place to live, why do you think we were chosen to host the Olympics?
Why do people come here from around the world to live and spend their vacations here despite our climate?
Why are repeatedly chosen as one of the number one cities in the world to live?
Why was Kits rated as having some of the top beaches in the world?
This is the best place in the world to live, and I'm gladly willing to pay the price that comes with it. If I weren't, I'd move to Saskatoon and buy a house for 200k...

[orgasm_donor]

Its very simple. Live in Winnipeg for two weeks any time of the year then come back to Vancouver. You will be kissing the ground when you get back.

[Hondaracer]

if you dont like Vancouver go live in fort mac, or somewhere in sask..

if you cant afford to "live" in Van, maybe you should be trying a little harder.. or stfu..

[Lomac]

Originally Posted by PiuYi

wait what?! you WANT a major highway cutting through vancouver?? I think the fact that vancouver is the only city in NA that doesn't have freeways slicing it up is a reason for it being one of the best cities

I'll take backed up traffic in vancouver any day over uglyass freeways american-style.... plus no freeways is the only way a city can develop a good public transportation system cuz it forces people to use it (although Translink has obviously failed us all on that front)

I don't mean have a highway cutting directly through the downtown core. That's just silly. There were plenty of locations twenty years ago that could have held a Hwy1 to Hwy 99 route. Hwy 91 was a patch job to a solution that should have been made ten years prior to it.

Originally Posted by adambomb

Well... If Vancouver sucks so much. Please post some places you would rather live and why?

Consider quality of living, employement opportunities, weather, cost of living, accessibility, government influence, taxes, food quality.

Think about your old high school class if you grew up in the GVRD. How many grads have left Vancouver, how many are still here today? Then ask people you know that grew up somewhere else but now call Vancouver home and ask them why they came here and when do they plan on moving back?


Don't just say Vancouver sucks and walk away.
That's fucking gay. fucking gay as hell.

To be honest, the majority of my high school grad moved out of the province. Many have moved eastward across the country, down south to the States, or even into Europe. Those that have stayed in BC are either real estate agents, film crew for Hollywood North or are "permanently unemployed" (*coughdrugscough*). I've only stayed in the GVRD after grad because I worked for Hollywood North for a few years before quitting that industry and it provided better job security than using my dual citizenship and trying to work in the industry in California.

As for other places I'd rather live... well, keeping all thing into account, the top of my list include Lyon (France), Montreal, Trento (Italy) and Stuttgart (Germany). These are all places I have spent a significant amount of time in as both a visitor and a semi-permanent resident. Yes, just like Vancouver each of these cities have their pro's and con's, but I personally prefer these cities over BC's golden gem. Hell, I'd even consider Kelowna.

Originally Posted by LiquidTurbo

Lomac =

Seems like people will find an excuse to bitch about anything these days. Pretty sure those immigrants that didn't make it on that rusty ass boat weren't going to complain about Vancouver like some of you guys are.

It's really quite simple.. if you don't like the place you are currently residing in, then MOVE! Yes it's really that simple! Bitching and complaining about it certainly won't help yourself out.

Vancouver is a bit more expensive compared to other cities but for more people I think, the pro's outweigh the cons.

Where else in the world can you go for World class Skiing, then come to eat one of the most eclectic amounts of restaurants around, beautiful summers, mild weather, and fantastic air and water? Decent healthcare, low traffic (compared to any major city in the world), nice Universities. The only rival city that I see in my mind is San Francisco. For me I really enjoy the outdoors so I really think BC is an amazing place. Most people that live in Vancouver haven't even see the sheer amount of beauty that this province has.

Seriously though, if you have some beef with Vancouver then just have the courage to move somewhere else instead of bitching about it to people who are more than content to live here. Too many people with a sense of entitlement. Reminds me of that thread of the guy complaining about BCIT.

No, not trolling. I'm merely stating my opinion. I know many disagree with it, but... meh.

Besides, I already mentioned earlier I don't live in Vancouver anymore. No need to take someone else's advice to "gtfo" when I decided to do so on my own.

[asian_XL]

Originally Posted by orgasm_donor

Its very simple. Live in Winnipeg for two weeks any time of the year then come back to Vancouver. You will be kissing the ground when you get back.

like I said few posts above, 2 weeks doesn't justify Vancouver is better than Winnipeg. A buddy of mine used to lived in Yellowknife, he told me Vancouver stinks when he moved here during highschool. Now he thinks Vancouver is the best because he moved to Asia and lives by himself.

No doubt, West Coast has the best air on Earth, you can see how it attracts so many retired folks to settle here, but do you know how many working class moved in and out of Vancouver in this decades (read Lomac's post above)? Can the immigrants (not just Asians, but people from other cities) get good working opportunities? It is a question of facts. The Vancouver demographic is changing, the younger generations can't make a good living here. Even the policy letting VISA students to stay here to work won't help much.

Local Vancouverites think Vancouver is the best, mainly because they are just proud of their city hosting the Olypmic and there are no matching cities nearby. Think about Miami or LA is a couple hundred km away from Vancouver, no one would think Vancouver is the best anymore.

just my thought

[goo3]

Vancouver's not a something for everybody type of town. Neither is San Diego. Both are great places to live if you like certain, specific things, but they're not huge cities and both have different identities so what do you expect? It's like arguing between which color is better.

As for $$$$$ in general, it's no contest. We have 2nd rate jobs, small-ass companies, and housing's a rip. SD's got warm weather, jobs, and cheap shit but that's more of a Cali, USA thing in general. You could say Bay Area, LA > SD.

[Euro7r]

This is our city at its finest. As much as fucked up Vancouver has become in terms of society issues (ex. crazy high home costs, stupid cops), our city looks awesome.

[TheKingdom2000]

to be honest, i agree that it's all about your job and social network.

I'm currently in Toronto. Though, if my family and friends were here I would call it home in a heart beat. I would probably still miss vancouver though.

I honestly just miss my family and friends.
i find it really hard to move away from family and friends though.
that's just me, I know tonnes of people who have moved because that's where their job took them.

Does it make sense that I would rather live in vancouver and getting paid significantly less than moving somewhere else and make significantly more?

[MG1]

I'd take a pay cut to stay with family and friends.

There's more to life than money, when it comes down to it.......... I can't believe I just said that. LOL

I would miss my mom's cooking too much.

[4444]

Originally Posted by jigga250

HIGHLY debatable with regard to cleanliness. I'm not sure what you mean by "a lot bigger". If you mean in size, thats just plain not true. If you mean by amount of people living there, again, completely untrue. In comparison to DT Vancouver, DT San Diego is a ghost town after 5pm...there just isn't the population density (about one third).



Totally subjective. You don't think San Diego has its share of d-bags? Especially WITH a military base?!?
Seems like nostalgia has tainted your opinion.



Bullshit on both counts.





Maybe you don't HEAR about it, and their problems, as much because you live HERE?!



Not sure what you mean by that. Ever heard of ALBERTA?



Sure most will go to LA simply because its a larger city, but the city is still 28% hispanic. I'd rather not deal with uninsured illegals crashing into me or drug related violence spilling over from Tijuana.


I don't disagree with everything you say, I'm sure SD is a great place for young people, but its definitely not as rosy as you make it sound. The fact that you lived there as a kid (when you probably didnt notice alot of the downsides), and only visit for a couple weeks a year, probably means there are a lot of negatives you havent been exposed to, while only being there on vacation and associating it with good memories.

dude, ghost town past 5? have you ever been there? i've spent A LOT of time down there in the last couple of years, and most things you've said above just aren't true, this is the typical BS i put up with when i talk about so. cal with canadians

[4444]

Originally Posted by MindBomber

If Vancouver wasn't an absolutely amazing place to live, why do you think we were chosen to host the Olympics?
..

worst arguement EVER

didn't russia and qatar just get 2018 & 2022 FIFA world cups...

i should look into moving to qatar...

[stylez2k4]

Originally Posted by asian_XL

You have been to countless cities, but you have never actually lived in one of them. Best city is all about your social network, your working opportunities and your living expectation, not base on "I have been there and it sucks".

If you are a oil driller, ibanker, or prairies farmers, Vancouver is probably is the worst town in Canada.

I was responding to the poster that claimed people needed to travel more to assess whether Vancouver is a great city. I have and I found Vancouver to be one of the better cities.