So in a fair world, our insurance should go down since ICBC is making extra income now.... But nope.

exactly but I don't want them to have my credit card so I have them setup by online banking now instead.

What?

The processing fee is just the fee charged to unregistered vehicles. It represents the costs associated with them having to track down who it was who crossed the bridge, bill them for it, and actually try and retrieve the money from that person.

The only relation to ICBC exists because it costs treo money to get the information of the vehicle from ICBC. The reason it costs ICBC money to get this information is because they have to pay someone to fish it out of the system and forward it to treo.

Its not like ICBC makes money off this system, or atleast they aren't supposed to be.

The idea is that the tolls are supposed to go towards funding the expenses incurred from the project, and to provide funds for other infrastructure improvements.

The idea of the toll was never to subsidize our insurance premiums...

I don't know how you define "heavy traffic"... Monday morning I left Abbotsford shortly after 6am and made it to the job site on English Bay before 7.

Lions Gate counterflow is only 2 lanes, but I'm not too sure what you're trying to say exactly above. Are you suggesting Kingsway or Marine Drive should have an 80/90 speed limit?

I think 90 is where its going to stay. I was tagged for an excessive at 125 in the 80 zone where traffic flow was 110-120, just after Willingdon years and years back before construction was even slated. So I feel like they will see an increase of 10km/h as 'progress'.

I'd love to see electronic speed limit signs like what they have on the I5 as you approach Seattle. That way the speed limit can change as traffic volume allows.

Is this bridge going to be like the Coq hwy and be toll free once the cost to build has been recouped?

That's what they say but they said that about the Coquihalla as well and that thing had a toll long after it was paid for but eventually it came off. It probably won't be removed in my lifetime, they are saying 40 years but once the Govt starts bringing in taxes or levies they don't like to let them go.

It hasn't gone up any in many sections.

As someone pointed out earlier to me; It was 90 before the construction in many places, and it went down to 80 for construction across the board, and now the plan is for it to be 100 east of the bridge, 90 through the lakes, and 80 west of grandview.

So we actually didn't even gain 10km/h, we essentially gained absolutely nothing.

I see erratic driving every damn day through the lake stretch, from people getting pissed off at people going 80 or 90. The speed limit needs to be 100 at least, 110 would be more suitable.

Source:

Why are construction speed limits still in effect on Hwy 1? | News1130

Major fuck up on the governments part. There needs to be more signs saying "Get out of the fucking fast lane". And more coppers need to slam people blocking the fast lane.

I was okay with tolls on the Coq. Considering the beating it takes every winter and the amount of repairs they used to do, it was justifiable. Since the tolls have been removed, the road quality has dropped significantly.

How about extra lanes... better ramps... less congestion... :concentrate:

What a retarded fucking question... BECAUSE PARTS ARE STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

The alternative is to have limits constantly going up and down as little sections get done. Then you'd bitch because you got a ticket for going 90 in and 80 construction zone when you'd only just got back up to 90 after leaving another construction zone.

THIS I think we can all agree with.

+1 :woot2:

No I was listing that as a source because at the bottom it says what the new speed limits are going to be. I agree that the article was rather stupid.

And yes we did gain better traffic flow and all that jazz, but i'm just disapointed that we couldn't even bump the limit to 100km/h across the entire section, like all the way to the cassiar, or atleast willingdon.

In the end it doesn't matter because everyone will drive it at 110 anyway.

everytime i drive in the morning cars are going 100+ km/h. once i get across the port mann into surrey everyone seem to go 120+

I agree that signs need to go up stating slow traffic keep right. There has been numerous times that i was pass traffic using the slow lane.

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No high horse responses please, I pay too fucking much a month (not enough to justify a monthly pass) and i'm getting sick of it.

$1.50 was fair.

I won't confess how fast I go on Hwy1.

I agree. $1.50 was very fair and I crossed that bitch of a bridge every day till they doubled it. Now I only cross it when I'm too tired or in a hurry.

Here's something that bothers me. The following is a list of all the major upgrades recently completed in the GVRD.

Pitt River Bridge - $200 Million
Sea to Sky - $600 Million
South Fraser Perimeter Road - $1.2 Billion
Port Mann - $2.4 Billion

Obviously the Highway 1 project is the most expensive one, with the bridge itself taking more than half the construction budget allocated. If the contract to collect tolls was set up in such a manner that it would only pay for the bridge portion, I could get behind it. However, the toll goes to pay for the entire damn project -- bridge, overpasses, on/off-ramps and all. Basically what it means is that the huge majority of people who live on the West side of the bridge can take advantage of this whole thing without having to pay a single toll (or, conversely, those who may drive from Abbotsford out to 152nd in Surrey). Basically the only people who are on the hook to pay this thing off are those who, for whatever reason they have, must drive over the bridge in order to get to work/home. If we wanted to make it fair, why not place toll cameras on every on-ramp between 200th in Langley and whatever road in Vancouver it ends at and charge everyone, say, 50 cents to take the trip? And those who drive over the bridge get tolled another $1/1.50? That way everyone who benefits from the upgrades can pay their fair share.

OR.... if we're talking about paying fair shares, why the hell is the Sea to Sky not fucking tolled? Like when the Coquihalla was upgraded, the S2S was more of a "luxury" than necessity. The SFPR could be argued that it truly was a necessity, but at over $1.2 billion dollars, why are there no tolls on it? And yet, a new Pattullo Bridge, which will cost less than the untolled SFPR project, is expected to be tolled?

Where's the damn consistency? Translink/Mayor's Council is screaming for more money, well... you've got three newly completed projects just begging for some shiny new cameras to be installed.

Lol...The consistency is:

Fuck surrey.

No but seriously I agree to some degree with what you have said, I use much of the new portions of the highway, every morning on the way to work, and I don't pay shit. Not fair for sure, but I don't really see a better way than tolling the bridge.

The most equitable thing to do of course is to do it via OBD2 connector and toll / km.. but apparently that is a non starter to the province or the mayors.

re: left lane blocking:

Watching Slower drivers in the fast lane http://www.cbc.ca/player/News/Canada/BC/ID/2465609404/

If I could thank you, and the CBC a million times I would. Finally maybe something will be done about this epidemic.

So, anyone have any idea when the final two lanes are supposed to open? Last I heard, it was supposed to be within December 2014. The website's "Construction Schedule" is beyond vague: "Final finishing work will continue through 2015. This primarily involves completion of the final two lanes of the Port Mann Bridge and their connections to Highway 1, which are necessary for future capacity."

Construction Schedule

Substantial completion originally for the project was December 2013.

Substantial Completion was actually achieved ~5 months late. In Summer of this past year, and the project certainly has not made any schedule advances in that period, if anything they have lost even more ground.

Original Final completion was meant to be this past December, so even at a best case scenario they are running ~6 months behind schedule, so we are looking at mid summer before they are all wrapped up.

They have really been starting to pave the other two lanes the past week and I wouldn't be surprised if they are fully opened by March. I think another reason for the delay is because of the removal of the old bridge which seems to be going very slowly but I'm sure that will take another 3 months depending on the weather.

Everything really seems to be coming quickly since the beginning of the month so March opening sometime is very possible

I wonder if there are any penalty clauses and if there are how much?