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Originally Posted by godwin (Post 8809060)

I don't think US or Australia have mothballed any of their Super Hornets. The Marines had to pull some of their old Hornets.. so the US fighter gap is real.

Boeing has to get authorization from Congress to export to Canada. Also Canada traditionally want their own configurations..

F35 is too compromised for Canada's size.. single engine especially a high performance and rather temperamental one is bad news for Arctic patrol.

However politically Canada has to dance some tricky dance to get around the F35 offset.. hence they are insisting it is an "interim" solution.

There is no such thing as "Arctic patrol". It is incredibly expensive to fly up north for extended periods of time, that is why you only see one or two excerises a year.

The F135 engine is exceeding 90% reliability which is well beyond 2020 targets. This is the most advanced jet engine ever built that is designed for every scenario. There is no such thing as 100% reliability and flying jets has its own risks regardless of number of engines. The US, Norway and Denmark all will be flying their F35s in Arctic environments. We are nothing special when it comes to risks.

red flag? but that doesnt look like nevada in background
https://theprintbeta.files.wordpress...07/photo-1.jpg

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Originally Posted by Rallydrv (Post 8853385)

red flag? but that doesnt look like nevada in background
https://theprintbeta.files.wordpress...07/photo-1.jpg

Eielson AFB, in Alaska.

U.S. Air Force, Indian Air Force join forces during RED FLAG-Alaska > Eielson Air Force Base > Article Display

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Originally Posted by roastpuff (Post 8853424)

Eielson AFB, in Alaska.

What a shit hole. :heckno:

is this still a thing for us? article was from beginning of last month:

Canada mulls buying used Boeing fighter jets from Australia

https://ca.reuters.com/article/domes...CN1BH2H2-OCADN

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OTTAWA (Reuters) - Canada, embroiled in a dispute with Boeing Co over the planned purchase of 18 new Super Hornet fighters, could buy older jets from Australia instead, the defense ministry said on Wednesday.

The Liberal government of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau suspended talks with Boeing over a possible acquisition after the U.S. firm launched a trade challenge against Canadian planemaker Bombardier Inc.

Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan says Canada needs the 18 jets as a stopgap measure until it can run a competition to replace its CF-18 fighters. The CF-18 is Canada’s version of the F-18, a design that is 40 years old.

“In light of Australia recently notifying all allies about their intent to dispose of their F-18 fleet, Canada visited them to inquire about the state of their equipment and spare parts,” Sajjan’s office said in a statement.

“It is too early to provide detailed information about other options,” it added.

Boeing declined to comment. The Australian High Commission (embassy) did not reply to a request for comment.

Sajjan spokeswoman Jordan Owens said Canada had not visited other nations to assess their planes.

Trudeau on Tuesday slammed Boeing’s “unfair and aggressive” challenge against Bombardier, which the U.S. firm alleges is dumping passenger planes in the American market.

Boeing’s Canadian network of aerospace suppliers on Tuesday urged Trudeau to buy the Super Hornets, noting the firm supported more than 17,000 jobs in Canada.

“Our partnership is deep and enduring, but it needs your engagement,” said a letter from 10 firms, a copy of which was seen by Reuters.

Signatories included CAE Inc, Heroux Devtek Inc and Honeywell International Inc. as well as the Canadian arms of General Electric Co and Raytheon Co.

CAE, which has close ties to Bombardier, later noted the letter had not mentioned the Boeing dispute.

Asked for a reaction to the letter, a source familiar with government thinking said the Canadian aerospace sector supported many jobs in the United States.

Australia bought 24 Super Hornets as an interim fleet until it could take delivery of F-35 planes from Lockheed Martin Corp.

Canada’s former Conservative government said in 2010 it would buy 65 F-35s but later scrapped the decision, triggering years of delays and reviews.

Ahead of the 2015 election that brought him to power, Trudeau campaigned against buying the F-35 on the grounds it was too expensive. Officials now say the plane would be eligible to participate in the competition.

[UPDATE] looks like it might happen:

Canada makes first moves toward Australian fighter jet purchase https://globalnews.ca/news/3796464/c...edium=Facebook

Meanwhile in the real world, the F35 makes its first combat appearance used by a real combat capable Air Force. Pretty sure our idiot leader said this thing doesn't work not too long ago. While we are still flying our clapped out F-18s, the F35 will be flying real-world missions and our politicians will be hitting a "reset" on a competition.

The F-35 just made its combat debut

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Lockheed Martin’s F-35 has seen combat for the first time.

The Israel Defense Forces announced on its Twitter account that the Israeli version of the aircraft, using its “Adir” moniker was used in operational missions.

“The Adir planes are already operational and flying in operational missions,” the tweet said, quoting Israel Air Force head Maj. Gen. Amikam Norkin. “We are the first in the world to use the F-35 in operational activity.”

The Israeli Air Force used the F-35 in two recent strikes in the Middle East, Norkin said, according to the news outlet Haaretz.

https://www.defensenews.com/breaking...-combat-debut/

a little bump for the rejection of the f-18 SH.

So it is between the gripen -e and f35.......

More advanced fighter vs cost effective fighter.... I really hope Trudeau goes with the f35 despite costs