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TeriyakiSawce 01-03-2011 02:22 AM

Fish for 30 gal - UPDATED WITH PICS!!
 
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I recently got a 30 gal and i'm planning to buy a xp3 for it soon. Any ideas for possible fish to put in my tank?

TIA

UPDATE #2:


Fish:

13 Neon Tetras
2 Fire Honey Gouramis
4 Hi-Fin Danios
3 Peppered Cories
6 Cherry Shrimp

Equipment:
XP3
11 Plants
200 Watt Marineland StealthPro
Bubble Wand With 2 Model 700s

OTG-ZR2 01-03-2011 09:14 AM

Depends what kind of tank your planning on creating.

Do you want an aggressive tank or a community tank?

I would start with some cheap fish to begin the cycling of the tank. Because you will lose a few on the initial start up of a tank.

ImportXxX 01-03-2011 12:32 PM

you can just get a xp2 instead of xp3..it's a little cheaper. Xp3 is rated up to 175g i believe...but you can get it if you plan to put alot of fish in your 30 gal. I would start off with smaller types of cichlic, you'll probably enjoy them more then community fish. However, if you're new to fish you should start with some cheaper and easier fish to keep..goto king ed and get some feeder fish once you start up your tank..good for cycling for a few weeks. Then after you can do whatever you want, just make sure you don't get fish that will get too big too fast cus you will need bigger tanks for that..it's an addicting hobbie so enjoy!

TheNewGirl 01-03-2011 01:43 PM

I recommend cycling with ammonia not with fish.

With a 30G you'll wanna go with community fish, ciclids in a tank that small are going to be high maitenance. I would recommend some black fins (Which actually get quite large and are very hardy) for schooling (about 6), about 4 corys (they'll grow big too and are adorable for the bottom) and then you could look at putting in a pretty, colorful beta (a siamese fighting fish) or something like that to brighten it up.

I would recommend going with sand on the bottom and light plants (java fern is mega hardy) as this will keep down your maitanence a lot too.

King Eds has great prices for plants and fish. Please don't just fill your tank and dump animals in it though.

There's several good sights for fish keeping around. If you ever need smaller quarentine tanks let me know too, as I'm actually aging out my tanks and getting out of the hobby so I have way more then I will ever need again.

http://www.bcaquaria.com/forum/ - is a very good local forum for fish keepers with a plethora of info and breeding contacts and the like.

c32 01-03-2011 10:44 PM

I would make a low lighted planted tank, low light plants grow realy slow, some easy care plants to put in is the anubias, java fern and moss.... since u got a 30 gallon, i would put in some dwarf cichlids, apistogramma species or blue rams.. many diff. types of apistogrammas available.. dwarf cichlids need 1 sq ft each.. otherwise you will see them attacking the crap outa each other and may lead to death or serious injury.. so for a 30 gallon you can prob get 3 or 2..

TeriyakiSawce 01-04-2011 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportXxX (Post 7249607)
you can just get a xp2 instead of xp3..it's a little cheaper. Xp3 is rated up to 175g i believe...but you can get it if you plan to put alot of fish in your 30 gal.

I was thinking about getting an xp2 but for a 20 dollar difference i might as well get the xp3. I was thinking about a red tiger oscar, but a community tank seems like another interesting alternative for me. I have a smaller planted 10 gal with a betta and lot of snails in it.

ImportXxX 01-04-2011 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TeriyakiSawce (Post 7251599)
I was thinking about getting an xp2 but for a 20 dollar difference i might as well get the xp3. I was thinking about a red tiger oscar, because community fish seem too high of a maintenance for me. I have a smaller planted 10 gal with a betta and lot of snails in it.


do not get an oscar, it will out grow your tank within 6 months and then you will need to get a bigger tank or sell it and oscar's are hard to sell..i used to have it but end up given it away

Spoon 01-05-2011 11:45 AM

Heard that planted tanks can get pretty expensive. So you might want to look into the cost before you start.

Personally I like discus, but I'm not sure if a 30gallon's enough space to keep them. On the other hand, I've had a lot of success keeping gold & green severums. Nice to look at, hardy and they're not overly aggressive. However, they do grow pretty fast if you give them the space. I'd recommend keeping maybe 2-4 for a 30 gallon.

I ended up selling them off for a profit when I switched to salt water. But they grew from maybe the size of a toonie to the size of my palm in about 6-12 months. I'd do it all over again if I was still into the hobby.

Cman333 01-05-2011 01:05 PM

I was just about to suggest checking out BCAquaria.com

Cman333 01-05-2011 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Spoon (Post 7252034)
Heard that planted tanks can get pretty expensive. So you might want to look into the cost before you start.

Personally I like discus, but I'm not sure if a 30gallon's enough space to keep them. On the other hand, I've had a lot of success keeping gold & green severums. Nice to look at, hardy and they're not overly aggressive. However, they do grow pretty fast if you give them the space. I'd recommend keeping maybe 2-4 for a 30 gallon.

I ended up selling them off for a profit when I switched to salt water. But they grew from maybe the size of a toonie to the size of my palm in about 6-12 months. I'd do it all over again if I was still into the hobby.

There's different types of setups. It's costly depending on how big the tank is and what type of plants you keep.

If you're looking at Amano style tanks, then yes its bloody expensive.

I had a 10 gallon tank with just normal gravel, DIY co2, EI method of dosing and florescent lighting and it turned out beautiful. Most important thing is consistency.

guesskid 01-05-2011 05:09 PM

I would start the cycle with some cheap fish, than goto a community tank . goodluck :thumbsup:

Matlock 01-05-2011 06:04 PM

Also take into consideration on what type of maintenance you want to do. I'm lazy so I chose tough things to put in my tank.

I have harlequin rasporas and albino corydoras, because they are both really hardy fish. I only clean my tank once every 6 months and sometimes I forget to feed them. I've had albino corydoras that lived over 5 years.

I also have a piece of driftwood with cryptocoryne plants growing off it. Cryptocorynes are very low maintenance plants, they will survive with whatever light you give them. Also good for oxygen :)

TeriyakiSawce 01-06-2011 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Matlock (Post 7252615)
Also take into consideration on what type of maintenance you want to do. I'm lazy so I chose tough things to put in my tank.

I have harlequin rasporas and albino corydoras, because they are both really hardy fish. I only clean my tank once every 6 months and sometimes I forget to feed them. I've had albino corydoras that lived over 5 years.

I also have a piece of driftwood with cryptocoryne plants growing off it. Cryptocorynes are very low maintenance plants, they will survive with whatever light you give them. Also good for oxygen :)

I had 3 albino corydoras for my 10 gal. Back then i wasn't cleaning my gravel well so they ended up dying. But since i'll probably get a community tank they would seem like a nice addition. The cryptocorne plants look pretty dope. I'll definitely think about putting those in my tank.

wasabisashimi 01-06-2011 09:24 AM

10 neon tetra, 10 rummy nose tetro.,, u are good to go, add some nice resistant plants to it

TheNewGirl 01-06-2011 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Spoon (Post 7252034)
Heard that planted tanks can get pretty expensive. So you might want to look into the cost before you start.

Personally I like discus, but I'm not sure if a 30gallon's enough space to keep them. On the other hand, I've had a lot of success keeping gold & green severums. Nice to look at, hardy and they're not overly aggressive. However, they do grow pretty fast if you give them the space. I'd recommend keeping maybe 2-4 for a 30 gallon.

I ended up selling them off for a profit when I switched to salt water. But they grew from maybe the size of a toonie to the size of my palm in about 6-12 months. I'd do it all over again if I was still into the hobby.

They don't have to be expensive at all, hardy plants are actually pretty inexpensive (Java fern and moss especially)

A 30G is not tall enough for Discus (you want either a 40 tall or a 60) and generally considered too small for Severums unless it's a long breeder and even still I really wouldn't put them in anything smaller then a 60.

Dwarf ciclids do well in a 30G like rams and kribs but the rams are high maintenance and the kribs will either breed like mad or kill each other. Neither are situations I would recommend for a new fish keeper.

I highly recommend going over to BC Aquaria. Also I totally recommend Big Al's by Lougheed Mall for picking up plants and stock. While their prices are a bit higher then King Eds they're far better about quarintining their fish and I've had fewer problems with sick stock from them.

wasabisashimi 01-06-2011 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TheNewGirl (Post 7253552)
They don't have to be expensive at all, hardy plants are actually pretty inexpensive (Java fern and moss especially)

A 30G is not tall enough for Discus (you want either a 40 tall or a 60) and generally considered too small for Severums unless it's a long breeder and even still I really wouldn't put them in anything smaller then a 60.

Dwarf ciclids do well in a 30G like rams and kribs but the rams are high maintenance and the kribs will either breed like mad or kill each other. Neither are situations I would recommend for a new fish keeper.

I highly recommend going over to BC Aquaria. Also I totally recommend Big Al's by Lougheed Mall for picking up plants and stock. While their prices are a bit higher then King Eds they're far better about quarintining their fish and I've had fewer problems with sick stock from them.

just to point out, Big AL's had a management change since last year, I don't know what they are called as of now.

xilley 01-06-2011 10:48 PM

just go to king eds, they have fishes 50% for fresh and 30% for salt
they usually have the best deals
but their customer service is complete shit at times

misteranswer 01-07-2011 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by wasabisashimi (Post 7253624)
just to point out, Big AL's had a management change since last year, I don't know what they are called as of now.

From what I know, it wasn't a management change. The stores in the lower mainland were franchises and the owner decided to get out and converted his stores to island pet's or whatever.

Matlock 01-07-2011 04:48 AM

Best mom and pops type fish store is on nanaimo and Hastings. Cheap and good quality fish

I also get my fish food there. Hikari micro pellets are awesome
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TheNewGirl 01-07-2011 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by misteranswer (Post 7254908)
From what I know, it wasn't a management change. The stores in the lower mainland were franchises and the owner decided to get out and converted his stores to island pet's or whatever.

Ahhh! Well if it's still the same owners I'm sure they're still just as good. :)

- kT 01-07-2011 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by wasabisashimi (Post 7253537)
10 neon tetra, 10 rummy nose tetro.,, u are good to go, add some nice resistant plants to it

id do this too, maybe 8 neons and 8 rummy nose's, and then a pleco or something, maybe one or two more random fishes

Fafine 01-07-2011 08:34 AM

go big or go home

wasabisashimi 01-07-2011 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Matlock (Post 7254938)
Best mom and pops type fish store is on nanaimo and Hastings. Cheap and good quality fish

I also get my fish food there. Hikari micro pellets are awesome
Posted via RS Mobile

whats this place called, i'd like to check it out and compare to king ed's (they are mom, pop, grandma, grandson, uncle, neighbor crew lol)

TheNewGirl 01-07-2011 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by - kT (Post 7255037)
id do this too, maybe 8 neons and 8 rummy nose's, and then a pleco or something, maybe one or two more random fishes

Plecos get way too big and messy for a 30G. There are some that grow slowly and could be okay for a while but eventually they'll need a bigger tank.

Cory's and ottos for bottom feeding in anything under a 40.

- kT 01-07-2011 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TheNewGirl (Post 7255245)
Plecos get way too big and messy for a 30G. There are some that grow slowly and could be okay for a while but eventually they'll need a bigger tank.

Cory's and ottos for bottom feeding in anything under a 40.

messy, yes. some don't grow to be that big though


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