If you say that then why the heck are Catholics so against abortions and divorce and pre marraige sex

They should get with the times and forget about all those things as well then


While we are at it might as well ask the Muslims to start eating pork and non halal meat cause times have changed

They should.

The majority of Sikhs in Canada do not wear turbans, like the majority of Catholics are not hard core and hold anti-abortion, homophobia, ... beliefs. It is funny that religion now only represents the few, not the many who are practicing yet choose to ignore many beliefs cause they do not fit into modern society.

A lot of religions these days are just casual, I don't know many people who follow a religion because its their actual beliefs. Its just so people can identify themselves in society. Religion is and always will be a plague. I have followed both the Sikh and catholic religions in my lifetime and I have seen the same thing from both sides, bending the "rules".

All baptized Sikhs wear turbans.

Because people would not hire them if they had a turban on. Many Sikhs who came 40 plus years ago cut there hair so they could put food on the table. Many of those people now have put there turbans back on.

So? I could point out many people who will claim they are Sikh yet do not wear a turban.

All your point highlights is the number of people who will wear the kirpan is very small, and we should not be bending security rules to cater to such a minority.

Funny how we bitch about the Chinese not wanting a hospice in their backyard, yet most of us are intolerant of Quebecois culture. Having lived there I will be the first to admit that there were a lot of ignorant people in Quebec regarding language. Before I could speak french, I would be damn near abused by mostly low class french. The guy pumping my gas, or the waitress at the local diner for example. Professionals like the ones I was dealing with were always a lot more compassionate.

I'm the first to shit on Quebec's arrogance and intolerance. But that said, they truly believe in their culture, and know that if it's not protected, they're doomed to be like the rest of Canada, who frankly has no culture.

Lots of people claim there catholic, but how many abstain form having sex or being married?

Now the next question: are there laws against those choices?

There's laws against carrying weapons. If you want to compare apples-apples, pick a better Catholic belief that is illegal.

the kirpan is not a freaking weapon

hell sometimes its just the cover with a handle in it...

or if theres a blade its NOT sharpened at all.

so its no more of a weapon than a spoon.

Here's a simple test:
1. Walk through airport security with a spoon
2. Walk through airport security with a fake mini sword

Let me know the result.

A weapon is what we distinguish it to be, ie a societal norm. Canadians do not believe we have the right to carry weapons, despite our lack of a distinguishable culture, this is pretty much universally true.

Are we talking about airports???
Anyways you can bring knives on a plane you just have to put them in checked baggage.

FYI: it is not illegal to carry a knife in Canada.

Read it you'll gain something....hopefully
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirpan#Legality

so much fail in here, i just cant... :facepalm:

Sikhs are required to wear the kirpan, otherwise I completely agree, put it in checked baggage. Much like attending school, leave it at home.

It is very illegal to carry certain knives in public, and you're welcome to read the Constant Companion law and the references to concealed weapons.

I think this one statement sums it all up: Since 9/11 boxcutters are no longer just boxcutters.

There's been a couple incidents of kirpans used as weapons, in particular at schools that do have 100% knife bans.

Here is the Criminal Code definition of a prohibited knife
"prohibited weapon" means
(a) a knife that has a blade that opens automatically by gravity or centrifugal force or by hand pressure applied to a button, spring or other device in or attached to the handle of the knife, or
(b) any weapon, other than a firearm, that is prescribed to be a prohibited weapon;

Multiculturalism is a part of what makes this country great, although the residents of some provinces may have a more American approach to race relations than others, overall I believe most Canadians are proud of our countries diversity. Beaudoin doesn't speak for all Quebecers, only the racist biggots in the province; just like Steven Harper doesn't speak for all Canadians.

This was a security issue in a montreal highschool a few years back, and the solution was that the kid could wear it but had to keep it in a sealed "envelope" which meant he couldn't get access to the weapon.

Is there any part of the religion which requires you to take the knife out other than during ceremonial rites? If not, why not just put a rivet through the blade and scabbard. Yes, you have a knife. No, you can't ever take it out.

Problem solved.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirpan#Legality

It may be necessary to use it in certain circumstances so a "rivet" will not be appropriate...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirpan#Legality

In New York City a compromise was reached with the Board of Education whereby the wearing of the knives was allowed so long as they were secured within the sheaths with adhesives and made impossible to draw.

Just curious, what's the use of a dull knife in a self-defense?

The Kirpan is used for many other rituals that Sikhs have to perform in their daily lives. When a Sikh does ardas before the Guru Granth Sahib, the kirpan is used to .... the offering of food (or Kara parshad) to Akal Purakh (Almighty Lord).

Lots of good info here.

http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/K...s_not_a_weapon

I am not sure if you are trying to troll or not but either way after reading this comment I now know that you are a fucking idiot.

That is like saying Air Marshals are allowed to carry guns on planes so why can't I.

Go put on some underwear.

If they did this then why not take off the Kirpan for a few hours? At least no one cut thier head off.

Hey I think some more Tamils are headed this way..... you better get to the docks and welcome them in illegally.

I've been doing research for a bit - haven't found much on assaults with a Kirpan in Canada. The only one the one in Brampton outside a Gurdwara. I found one about a kid who allegedly pulled it out and threatened his bullies - but the only witnesses were the 2 kids bullying him - and the judge said he only used his hairpin.