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Old 01-28-2011, 12:50 PM   #51
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I'm jelous ..I wish we could of done this in Canada to stop hst , gas tax and school tuition raises.

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only positive thing out of this ):, fucking Egypt.
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I wouldn't say we are pussies, more like those issues are not serious enough to warrant serious mass protests like those in Egypt.

HST is nothing compared to the crippling inflation and 40% poverty + Dictatorship rule for 30 years.
Good point I guess. But it's only a matter of time til that happens here.
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Why not . Egypt is a beautiful country. U watch too much CNN.
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I know a number of people that have been there and with the 50deg temp and being stoned in the middle of the streets I don't know if I would want to live there.

I have a good friend that has been all around the world working from china,india,egypt,brazil months at a time and he said he wouldn't never live there or he doesn't want to go back its so horrible
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World peace could start with Obama setting up a Fox exclusive of an Arab dictators hanging.
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Am I the only one who's really annoyed with Obama for telling these people not to revolt against their dictators?
Egypt is a strategic ally that the US needs, and a new government might mean less ties in the middle east.

Those who think Obama is being nice to prevent deaths are foolish, this is political.
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^ at the end of the day I'd be glad to have the army on my side vs the police.
Not this army. Read about the Egyptian army and its impact in politics, and then think of what happens when the president finally steps down. Coup.
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You watch too much TV.

Egypt outside of the tourist centres is not a nice place to live.
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Egypt outside of the tourist centres is not a nice place to live.
Winnipeg and port alberni arent nice places to live in either.
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Winnipeg/Port Albernia vs. Egypt now?

These all seem like erronious comparisons.
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It's just that the US is all proud of their own violent revolution but condemns anyone else who does the same.
It's because it is precisely the American's and other Western nations that have been propping up these oppressive regimes for the benefit of Western corporations and elites. They (the American/Western governments) have everything to lose.

The archetypical case is Iran. In the 1950's a democratically elected and progressive leader was elected who used his powers to nationalize the oilfields. At the time, 90+ % of the profits from oil went to British Petroleum while the Iranians at home starved. For Prime Minister Mossedegh, this was thoroughly unacceptable and went to great lengths to negotiate a fairer deal with the British. The British refused to compromise so Mossedegh kicked them out (similar events has taken place recently in Venezuela). The British revolted by tasking the American CIA to covertly overthrow Iran's DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED government and imposed one of the most oppressive regimes in Iranian history that is the Shah. After decades of violent oppression, the Mullah's overthrew the American puppet regime.

Today, Iran (and Iraq before the invasion) is condemned at every opportunity because they are the only Middle Eastern state that refuses to submit to American neo-colonialsm.
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Obama: U.S. will stand up for rights of Egyptians
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Obama says protesters should refrain from violence
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Obama told Mubarak he must keep reform promise
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Why are people bringing up the pyramids? The pyramids have nothing to do with Politics! They will not get vandalized!

This is about the citizens, the country and who runs it. The citizens are sick of their president and will not have his son step into power for another 30years.
I'm in full support of the citizens and hope they get what they deserve! A voice!
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^Its egypt so they talk about the only thing they know about egypt.

Serious hypathetical question though; If the Canadian government were to ever implement measures as extreme as Egypt do you think Canadian citizens would revolt like this?

Reasons I ask is
a) We do have a different mindset, not to say we are pussies but violence is sporadic/isolated to certain areas/people and I believe the prevailing consensus is that people believe violence is never right
b) Geographically it would be much harder to get people together, especially if the internet was blocked like in Egypt

hopefully we'll never have to find out though
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Just throwing it out here. How does this compare to North Korea? Their situation is somewhat similar to Egypt.
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^Its egypt so they talk about the only thing they know about egypt.

Serious hypathetical question though; If the Canadian government were to ever implement measures as extreme as Egypt do you think Canadian citizens would revolt like this?

Reasons I ask is
a) We do have a different mindset, not to say we are pussies but violence is sporadic/isolated to certain areas/people and I believe the prevailing consensus is that people believe violence is never right
b) Geographically it would be much harder to get people together, especially if the internet was blocked like in Egypt

hopefully we'll never have to find out though

Dude, you have no idea what people are capable of. Just because right now we're living comfortably, everything is a constant struggle, such is life. Any moment things could change and your freedoms could be challenged. And you bet your ass that people would resort to violence. We would resort to terrorism and blowing our selves up for our beliefs too, don't kid your self, we would do the same things that the terrorists do because we would have a way of justifying it all and we wouldn't stop until we're free.
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blowing ourselves up for our beliefs? I hardly think so.
willing to risk our lives because its better than living with current conditions, ya I can see that.
Would be easier if guns were more available. Hell lots of people dont even vote so I guess we would have to get to the brink before we see people moved to action.
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I'm jelous ..I wish we could of done this in Canada to stop hst , gas tax and school tuition raises.

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this man speaks the truth...sadly...

I simply love the fact I live in greatest country in the world. Thing is...people here dont realize what solidarity is...and how we can work together for the better future.
I feel like we have to work on->
- cutting annual taxes,(forget HST fight; its not really a big problem: do some research; we all benefit from Harmonized tax)
- lowering gas prices,
- approving unlimited internet bandwidth !!

Go Canada! we need real democracy here; not (what I call) `socialistic-democracy` government we currently have to deal with... =(

and good luck to all Egyptians in the M.E., they must succeed.
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To be free. The belief that every man should be free, if that was all taken away, you're saying we wouldn't resort to all that I've mentioned?
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