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Old 02-06-2011, 11:07 PM   #1
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Which radar detector is recommended?

Im planning to buy a radar detector but not sure which one to get.

Is the Escort Passport x50 8500 still a good choice?

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Highly recommend the Valentine one. Owned the Passport 8500 before which was OK but the forward and reverse detection feature of the V1 saved my ass multiple times.
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I have the Escort 9500ix which has been a lifesaver for me. Every time I head up to Kelowna or Kamloops, it has saved my ass at least once per trip. I wouldn't leave home without it!
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Escort 9500ix. Simply because of the built in GPS. More and more red light and speeding cameras out there. Because it has a built-in GPS, it has the ability to detect and remember false alarms automatically. If you know of a false alarm you can even manually program the location in. The GPS will locate all marked spots as you drive, preventing the detector from going off all the time.

How does the 9500ix know a signal is a false alarm? Simple. If you drive by the same spot and the detector sees that it is the same frequency, it marks the location and memorizes it as a non-police signal. Police radar frequencies vary ever so slightly each time it is used. I've had the radar detector go off while driving through a known marked spot. Right there and then I knew someting was fishy, and sure enough there he was.

As for red light cameras, and nowadays the newer speeding cameras, the detector has all known camera locations pre-installed into its memory. Escort updates the maps once a month, and for a small fee, you get to upload the latest locations via the Internet as cameras get put up (all of North America!). The fee is very reasonable, IIRC. I don't speed through red lights, so I didn't bother subscribing.

Oh, sensitivity of the detector - it is controlled by the GPS, as well. The faster you are travelling, the more sensitive it gets. Way too cool.

Do I sound like a salesman, LOL?

If you really want the ultimate in protection from the popo, purchase a laser jammer. Now that will save your ass more than a detector ever will, because laser is like instant on. No way in the world can you react fast enough to avoid being tagged by laser if you are alone on the road. If you do a lot of freeway driving, the laser jammer is a must. As a side note, laser jammers are still legal here, but radar jammers are not.
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It depends what you want the detector to detect... do you want to detect speed traps (lasers) or patrol (radar)?

If you are going for a radar detector that is AIO (ie sensor is with the unit).. then you have to make sure your glass is not tinted for best performance. eg my X5 has tinted rears, the sensitivity from patrols coming from behind is a magnitude weaker than in my M3 (no tint, but lower height).

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Since laser is only usable at stationary situation. IMO if you are speeding on the highway and don't know where the usual speed traps are. You really shouldn't be speeding excessively in the first place, because you are obviously not that familiar with the stretch of road.

It might be legal, but the police can still try to get you on obstruction (depending on the temperament of the officer and the situation).. so ticket vs a real criminal charge.. I am not sure if it is worth the hassle.

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If you really want the ultimate in protection from the popo, purchase a laser jammer. Now that will save your ass more than a detector ever will, because laser is like instant on. No way in the world can you react fast enough to avoid being tagged by laser if you are alone on the road. If you do a lot of freeway driving, the laser jammer is a must. As a side note, laser jammers are still legal here, but radar jammers are not.
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Any type of jammer is legal to own in BC but NOT legal to use. Its kind of like how your horn is mandatory in your car but technically illegal to use.

Figure that one out.
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Plus, it'd be hard for them to prove you were using it at the time. The jammers give you just enough time to react. They're pretty stealth, too.

BTW, do you guys install them?
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I've been using the 8500 X50 for the last few years, and was using the regular 8500 before that for years.

It's saved me MANY MANY times over many years. I've only had one ticket in the last 8 years. That was because the cop was pacing me.

Unfortunately due to laser nowadays, regular detectors aren't quite as effective anymore. If it picks up laser it usually means you're the one being tagged.

The 9500 and 8500 are basically the same in terms of detection except the 9500 has more bells and whistles. Definitely a cool unit also.

I've used the Valentine one, also a good unit. But not so readily available in Canada. Some people love the arrows, but I find it pointless. It doesn't matter which direction the cops coming from, you gotta slow down anyways.

On another note, please don't use the detector as an excuse to speed. I've seen countless people buy these then think no one will catch them. Then they get an excessive speeding ticket and bitch about it. If you're going 100 km/h in a 50 zone, everyone knows you're speeding.
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Thanks guys, think ill go with a used 8500 x50 and see how that goes for now.
The 9500ix sounds pretty cool though.
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BTW, do you guys install them?
We install them. We also hardwire standard window mount detectors too.
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sorry for the kinda off-topic bump...

Any recommendation for laser jammer?
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escort zr4? would you mount all 3 shifters in the front though? cuz i've heard this is one of the weaker jammers out there.
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think escort is using old technology. LED based.

Check into Blinder laser jammers or Laser Star. I heard good things about Blinder. Been around for a while. For warranty, best to stay with companies that have been around. A lot of newer companies can go under so quickly leaving you with absolutely no support.

Escort is a good company, but as far as I know, they have not updated their laser jammers. They're busy with other stuff, I guess. Who knows, they might be on the verge of something new. Give them a call and see what they say - toll free number is on their website http://www.escortradar.com/. Their laser jammer may have had improvements since the last reviews were done on laser jammers. Just do a search for "best laser jammers" or something like that. There are a lot of jammers that don't work out there - buyer beware.
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Love my 9500ix. Have any of you guys been tagged with X band? I turned it off but today noticed I drove by a cop on cambie firing a gun and the thing never went off.. Makes me think he used X band. I notice ghost cars use Ka and marked cars use K attached to them. And most stationary and handheld guns are Ka. Only time Ive got a laser alert was going south on Knight St bridge but I couldnt even find the guy.

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I hate the sound of laser alert on my 9500. It scares the shit out of me. Only had it go off three times ever. One time, it was in heavy traffic and everybody was speeding more than just a few over the limit. Had a few pulled over already. I slowed right down. Must have caught a stray signal off another car up ahead.

The other thing that bothers me is the few areas that the GPS loses the signal. One place is by the 8 rinks heading south to Hwy 1 from the overpass on Lougheed. Just before the Westbound to Sprott. Detector goes off and it's a false one, but I can't mark it, because GPS signal has been lost.
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i was being alerted from beginning of patullo bridge when they were hiding under the new digital billboard
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Any recommendation for laser jammer?
jammers are illegal and they can tell your using one....
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Radar jammers are illegal, we are talking about laser jammers.


Plus, it has been discussed already in earlier posts what "legal" means.





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I'm pretty new to this stuff, since I just recently got caught speeding and I'm looking for countermeasures. So some of these questions might be stupid lol

Do you guys reckon a 9500 is enough protection? I'm mainly worried about speedtraps like the one posted in the video above.

Does the radar detector detect all police cars?

Honestly I don't speed much, but sometimes you just need to get there and you're running late, and getting caught speeding in those situations just makes things worse.
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Tbh, I know ppl who've ran Valentine One's and have heard nothing but bad news if you're running this in the city a lot. No GPS means you'll get annoying false X and K's all over the place. If youre just driving on the highway then by all means the V1 is up there in terms if range. With my 9500ix it'll automatically learn where I always hit falses and store them so I can focus on real alerts rather then ignore most of them. In a city like Vancouver this is super useful, not like in the states where highways link major towns together. You could hit a false on King Ed and Granville with safeway's auto door openers, ignore it then hit a real alert going down granville and get busted.

It'll detect cop cars only if they accidentally left their guns on, which is somewhat rare. I'll be driving in Richmond and find a few miles ahead which is awesome. Or driving on the east west connector and find a few ghost cars hiding behind a bridge chatting and their cars idling.

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Wait, so laser jammers are legal in BC?
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