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So, I'm anticipating the arrival of my restricted firearm license. I am planning to use my firearms for target practice only. What should my first firearm ideally be?
My plan is to get a .22 rifle, or something cheap I can shoot all day long and learn about shooting. Later on, I when I learn enough and have enough money, I want to get a real bolt action rifle, like the Remington 700.
I still haven't given up on the idea of WWII firearms, but that will have to wait. I need a core rifle that is affordable enough for start with, so I can shoot for more than 5 mins at the range.
My budget is flexible, but I rather stay under $400 or so. If I spend anymore, I might as well go right to a bolt action with a bigger caliper.
Your thoughts? If you have other suggestions I'm open to them.
For your very first gun, I voted 10/22!
Remington 597 - Not worth mentioning when the 10/22 is on the table LOL but this is just my opinion.
SKS - A Soviet Russian made SKS is awesome for a first carbine, but not for a first gun imo. Good luck finding a place in the city to shoot it. Surplus 7.62 ammo is steel core, and it fucks up the backstops at indoor ranges so they won't allow it. Awesome camping/backwoods/doomsday gun though . Everyone should own an SKS.
CZ 858 - Eats the same ammo as the SKS; same indoor range issue. There is softnose 7.62 you can buy (if you can find it) and shoot at the range, but it's pricey compared to surplus crate ammo. Not worth it for target shooting, in my opinion.
Everything is going to look really appealing to a first time buyer, and people are going to tell you to buy this or that, but try to focus on getting a .22 rifle, and then a .22 handgun as firsts. I think you're already on the right track though. .22LR is 3 cents a round to shoot, compared to, for example, 9mm at 30 cents a round, or .308 (most common Remington 700 caliber, so even though the rifle isn't that much more expensive then some .22's, the ammo definetely will be) at 70 cents per shot. If you're going to the range regularly and cycling through 200-250 rounds per session it will add up - last thing you want when you're starting out as a shooter is for ammo cost to turn you off.
btw If you're just looking for the most reasonably inexpensive .22 rifle to start off, look into the Mossberg 702 as well! It'll shoot the same groups as a stock 10/22, and it's a lot cheaper. I have one as my gopher gun. They actually used to sell for even less a few years ago when they weren't as popular yet and people were reluctant to adopt them, but even now they're definitely still a good buy
If your budget is a bit flexible, and you like the look and function of AR-15's but want to shoot .22, the Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22 is king shit of .22's right now
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If your budget is a bit flexible, and you like the look and function of AR-15's but want to shoot .22, the Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22 is king shit of .22's right now
Thats nice .22lr ....looks mean, and cheap to play with...lol. Something about being restricted to a 10rnd mag?? can't remember....also cannot justify price.
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If you are on a budget, you are almost limited to .22 or 7.62x39. .22 is a great caliber to start off with and learn the proper techniques to target shooting. However, you won't get as much satisfaction as the recoil of those things is not noticeable.
When I started a year ago, I asked the same question myself. I was thinking of a 10/22, SKS, or CZ858. I ended up with the SKS. Why? Because Lever had a deal with a SKS and a crate of surplus combo pack for cheap (by the way, I don't recommend Lever Arms unless they are way cheaper than others, their service is crap). The thing with SKS is that the accuracy varies from rifle to rifle. However, they require the least amount of care needed (except for the cleaning after shooting corrosive rounds). You can count on the reliability of the SKS.
If you want the AR look but can't afford the heavy price tag, go look at the Chinese Norinco CQ-A. They aren't the most refined AR system out there, but they are half the price of most AR platforms. CQ-A is compatible with almost all commercial spec'd AR-15 parts. Not to mention, you can throw a .22 conversion kit in and shoot it without worrying about the wallet.
If you really want more insight as to the right firearm for you, just check out Canadian Gun Nutz forum.
Thanks to everyone that voted and gave detail advice, as well as those who gave useless, yet, entertaining suggestions.
Right now, I'm leaning towards SKS because I have a friend who's selling his for a really good price. The 10/22 would've been my first choice otherwise.
Right now, I'm leaning towards SKS because I have a friend who's selling his for a really good price. The 10/22 would've been my first choice otherwise.
Make sure the one you're looking at has a chrome lined barrel - Russian/Soviet made are best - they're extremely rugged. Good luck!
Russian Tula Arsenal SKS (blade bayonet removed)
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I made a mistake getting a gun that I really wanted for the first gun. That 9mm ammo costs so much. Im looking to get a .22 handgun so I can shoot more.
if you wanna get really good at target shooting and get all technical about it
yeah probably start with a .22. bullets are cheap and they're great for practice.
if you just wanna shoot something you like and have fun at the range once in a while, just buy whatever the hell you want lol.
just remember, bullets are fuckin expensive. most people don't realise this.
I only own an m4a3, but i only bought it because it was the most familiar weapon to me. The military taught me everything i need to know about it, so i felt most comfortable with it. like i could use it straight outta the box and all that stuff.
bullets are fuckin expensive lol.
anyway.
you should also look into handguns, i mean they're more practical for "home defense"
and i duno man, i kinda regret getting an m4. i always borrow my friends handgun at the range. they're just so much more fun, pop pop pop pop pop.
rifles have stupid limited capacity magazines, aint like the army where u get 30 round mags, blast away at your targets.
one thing for sure though, if you DO get a handgun, go to a range where u can rent guns (or try your friends out) and try as many different handgun makes as you can.
the grip angle on every company's handguns are slightly different. some people prefer glocks, some people prefer sigs, S&W, springfield etc. whatever.
the comfort of the grip and angle of the grip are very important and will i think, dictate how well u shoot.
you just gotta be prepared financially, firearms are an expensive hobby. I had to drive out to fuckin poco to shoot my rifle and their range is only 200yards or something lame like that.
shotguns are fun too, dont have too much experience with those.
revolvers, fun too, rounds are expensive especially if you have a larger magnum. i always wanted a .357 of some sort.
if you do get a .22 pistol, i'd suggest a ruger. i always wanted one, but never got around to getting one. i mean, they're pretty nice, and when suppressed they make less sound than me dropping coins on the ground. and it isnt that hard to make a suppressor haha, woops, i didn't say anything
9mm ammo is probably the cheapest round out there other than .22's.
if i were to buy a semi automatic pistol i'd get a pistol that shot .40S&W for overall price, and practicality.
ummm i duno anything about AK variants or the sks, so i cant really comment. i ALMOST picked up an SKS way back though, but i thought to myself if i spent money on another firearm i'd get something i really wanted. like a pistol.
in the end, just buy what you want as long as you can support it financially. lol. hoped that helped.
i got my license about half an year ago, never had the time to go shopping yet.
but i heard u need something like a transport permit to transport the firearm around? from shop to home to shooting range etc?
CanadaGoose: Yea, it's chrome lined, but I haven't asked if it's Russian or not. It's so cheap, I'm practically get it for free.
Ulic: Thanks! I'm not really into handguns right now, but I've only shot a few. I like the Colt 1911.
You can check if the SKS is made in Russia by looking at the receiver cover. If it has an arrow inside a star or an arrow inside a triangle inside a circle, then you have a Russian made rifle. Also, look on the serial number, Russians one come with 2 Russian characters beside the numeric digits. SKS's are great rifles, except they aren't that accurate. And most SKS are frankenpinned.
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but this is just my opinion.
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