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02-11-2011, 11:55 AM
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Can someone enlighten me as to what the allure of the NSX is? Their styling is cool but when it comes to bang-for-the-buck performance they aren't very good. A 290hp V6 is nothing to write home about and for $65,000 there are a lot of cars that would destroy an NSX. I see NSX's once in a while so they're not ultra-rare. What's the deal?
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02-11-2011, 12:26 PM
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02-11-2011, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by twitchyzero how much does a mint condition NA2 NSX-R currently go for in japan?
clean title..70-120km's minimal mods? | 2002-2005 NA2 Type R usually go for well above the original MSRP nowadays in Japan.
Here is a break down of how many of each NSX made according to Route KS
NA1 Coupe - 6250
NA1 Type T - 175
NA1 Type S - 201
NA1 Type R - 483
NA2 Coupe - 105
NA2 Type T - 26
NA2 Type S - 31
NA2 Type R - 140
NA2 Type R-GT - 5
Total Production from 1990-2005: All numbers are approximate.
Japan: 7400
North America: 9700
Europe: 1400
Asia: 200 
If your talking about mint, I've seen a 2002 Championship White Type R listed at Route KS with only 800km on the odometer! There's also a very rare black Type R parked inside the showroom but that one is not for sale. 
Black Type R are the most rare, I've seen one with OEM gunmetal wheels. 
This one also have 800km on the odometer.
Most fetch around at least $140,000 CAD. Recently there was a NSX-R in Britain and it was sold for $200,000.
It was the white one you see the stig drive in TopGear back in the days around 2003? It was also the one test drove by Evo Magazine where it was crowned car of the year. 
The NA1 Type R still go for around $75,000 to $90,000
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02-11-2011, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by originalhypa My first thought when I read this was "Who the hell said that?"
Then I saw it was Dangonay, and my head assplode!
I'd love to, but it's black. I like white better.  | I would too. I actually don't like black on most cars...
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This is why I don't like black cars. Can barely make out the nice shape and details of the NSX (or any car that's black).
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02-11-2011, 02:01 PM
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on a black background its hard yes, on a sunny day on the road or at a park, its fine
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02-11-2011, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JD像 Can someone enlighten me as to what the allure of the NSX is? Their styling is cool but when it comes to bang-for-the-buck performance they aren't very good. A 290hp V6 is nothing to write home about and for $65,000 there are a lot of cars that would destroy an NSX. I see NSX's once in a while so they're not ultra-rare. What's the deal? | Because HP is not all that matters. The original car was designed with input from race car drivers, like Andretti (sp) and when you sit in one, it just feels right. In 1991, an NSX was quite respectable among supercars and it was thousands less.
An NSX is basically a street-legal F1 car: aluminum body panels, high-revving engine, etc.
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02-11-2011, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by JD像 Can someone enlighten me as to what the allure of the NSX is? Their styling is cool but when it comes to bang-for-the-buck performance they aren't very good. A 290hp V6 is nothing to write home about and for $65,000 there are a lot of cars that would destroy an NSX. I see NSX's once in a while so they're not ultra-rare. What's the deal? | - It was one of the world's top performance vehicle when it first came out (in the 90s)
- It uses carbon fiber + aluminum frame = much lighter than cars in the same class / size
- The quantity is relatively limited
- Most people love the NSX body styling (me included)
- the NSX has one of the best track performance compared to other vehicles with similar engine size and hp.
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02-11-2011, 02:55 PM
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I think it's more to do with the fact that a 91 NSX will still turn heads like a Ferrari.
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02-11-2011, 03:22 PM
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Its just an amazing car all around... Its just pure sex on wheels.. Nuff said..
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02-11-2011, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Dragon-88 Its just an amazing car all around... Its just pure sex on wheels.. Nuff said.. | 20 years ago I'd have probably agreed with you, I can understand the nostalgic attraction of it now. But I guess for me nostalgia doesn't carry much intrinsic value because I think you have to fucking nuts to spend the kind of money people are asking for these cars. But to each their own, thanks for the lesson |
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02-11-2011, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by JD像 20 years ago I'd have probably agreed with you, I can understand the nostalgic attraction of it now. But I guess for me nostalgia doesn't carry much intrinsic value because I think you have to fucking nuts to spend the kind of money people are asking for these cars. But to each their own, thanks for the lesson  |
It's a timeless classic and will only go up in value.
EVO Magazine - Top Sports cars of all time http://www.evo.co.uk/
1 McLaren F1
2 Ferrari F40
3 Pagani Zonda
4 Lancia Delta Integrale
5 Bugatti Veyron
6 Honda NSX/R
7 Porsche 911 2.7 997 GT3
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02-11-2011, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JD像 20 years ago I'd have probably agreed with you, I can understand the nostalgic attraction of it now. But I guess for me nostalgia doesn't carry much intrinsic value because I think you have to fucking nuts to spend the kind of money people are asking for these cars. But to each their own, thanks for the lesson  | How many NEW cars can you buy TODAY for under 100K that can perform and feel the way a NSX does? How many sub 100K car is made fully of aluminum? To get this kind of technology you'd have to jump to Ferrari or a really expensive Porsche 911. On top of it all, the history of this car is simply priceless.
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02-11-2011, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by cheapskate How many NEW cars can you buy TODAY for under 100K that can perform and feel the way a NSX does? Probably quite a few that will out perform it on paper. I've never driven an NSX so I don't know how it "feels". Have you or are you just talking out of your ass? If so what else have you driven that compares? Seeing as how you're a cheapskate I'm betting you're also just a fanboy.
How many sub 100K car is made fully of aluminum? Who cares? When the car first came out I'm sure that was a great selling feature just like hemispherical combustion chambers in the late 60's. Now... that doesn't really matter.
To get this kind of technology you'd have to jump to Ferrari or a really expensive Porsche 911. What... analog instrumentation, ABS, airbags, and a low output V6 attached to a syncromesh transmission? Does it even have traction control? You're comparing apples to oranges, the cars you mentioned above are at the pinnacle of the modern era. 20 years from now people will be having this same argument about them vs the new standards.
On top of it all, the history of this car is simply priceless. | Not really. It had direct input from racing drivers is that why? Is it because Ayrton Senna owned one? Hate to break it to you but pretty much all high-end cars and motorcycles are developed from racing input. The trickle-down effect has been there since the first two people somewhere decided to see who's vehicle was fastest. How many racing championships did the platform win? 24hrs of Le Mans? You want to talk history look at the Ferrari F40, where it came from, what it was built for, and how it was the last car Enzo Ferrari himself had built and drove personally before his death. That's history.
I'm not trying to shit on the NSX, I asked my questions out of genuine interest. But if you're going to get all butthurt about it then make a reasonable argument. Like I said previously, I'm sure in it's time the NSX was a marvel and I respect that. Now I just think people are asking too much for them because they look exotic. Still cool cars though, and they do sound pretty nice
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02-11-2011, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by JD像 Can someone enlighten me as to what the allure of the NSX is? Their styling is cool but when it comes to bang-for-the-buck performance they aren't very good. A 290hp V6 is nothing to write home about and for $65,000 there are a lot of cars that would destroy an NSX. I see NSX's once in a while so they're not ultra-rare. What's the deal? | $65,000 is for this low mileage NSX posted... you make it sound like they're all 65k. I doubt someone buying this car will be driving it like it was meant too, it'll probably just be garaged.
you can easily go find yourself a NSX for half that price with some realistic miles.
Samething for other Japanese cars like the Supra... LOW mileage ones are selling around the 55-70k mark... yet you can get them for 30k (same deal with the NSX).
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Originally Posted by JoshuaWong 2002-2005 NA2 Type R usually go for well above the original MSRP nowadays in Japan.
NA1 Coupe - 6250
NA1 Type T - 175
NA1 Type S - 201
NA1 Type R - 483
NA2 Coupe - 105
NA2 Type T - 26
NA2 Type S - 31
NA2 Type R - 140
NA2 Type R-GT - 5
Total Production from 1990-2005: All numbers are approximate.
Japan: 7400
North America: 9700
Europe: 1400
Asia: 200
Most fetch around at least $140,000 CAD.
The NA1 Type R still go for around $75,000 to $90,000 | Shit i didn't know NSX-R were that rare. |
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02-11-2011, 08:54 PM
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whats the spec difference btwn NSX-R & NSX-R GT?
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02-11-2011, 09:15 PM
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JD像, I understand that you dont understand. Thats fine. But please dont try to discredit the NSX. the NSX to alot of us is the pinnacle of dream car once upon a time. we all grew up loving/wanting one.
Its not even like GTR or Supra fanboys. The NSX is different.
Its not the best bang for your buck by any means. But sometimes love for a car goes beyond numbers. Id rather go a little slower in an NSX than a little faster in a Vette.
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Originally Posted by JD像 Can someone enlighten me as to what the allure of the NSX is? Their styling is cool but when it comes to bang-for-the-buck performance they aren't very good. A 290hp V6 is nothing to write home about and for $65,000 there are a lot of cars that would destroy an NSX. I see NSX's once in a while so they're not ultra-rare. What's the deal? | Can't put a price on pedigree and chassis development with Aryton Senna. It appeals to a lot of Japanese car enthusiast because for a long time it was the best super sports car the country could come up with during a time of 280hp limitations.
An NSX is no something you'd buy w/ your brain, but with your heart. Not everything can be measured simply as bang for buck performance. And that's why people buy cars like the NSX and cameras like the Leica M9.
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02-11-2011, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RRxtar Its not even like NSX fanboys. The Supra and GTR is different.
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Originally Posted by JD像 Not really. It had direct input from racing drivers is that why? Is it because Ayrton Senna owned one? Hate to break it to you but pretty much all high-end cars and motorcycles are developed from racing input. The trickle-down effect has been there since the first two people somewhere decided to see who's vehicle was fastest. How many racing championships did the platform win? 24hrs of Le Mans? You want to talk history look at the Ferrari F40, where it came from, what it was built for, and how it was the last car Enzo Ferrari himself had built and drove personally before his death. That's history.
I'm not trying to shit on the NSX, I asked my questions out of genuine interest. But if you're going to get all butthurt about it then make a reasonable argument. Like I said previously, I'm sure in it's time the NSX was a marvel and I respect that. Now I just think people are asking too much for them because they look exotic. Still cool cars though, and they do sound pretty nice  | Bobby Rahal and Aryton Senna had a hand in the development of the NSX. A legend helped develop the NSX and the car would be used as a benchmark to create another legend -- the McLaren F1. Here's an interesting fact: McLaren first approached Honda to create the V12 for the F1 but declined as they wanted to devote their time to racing. The NSX competed in the 1995 Le Mans winning the GT2 class and placed 8th overall, the F40 LM placed 12th. Just like the F40, the NSX was the last car to be conceived by the founder of the company, in this case, Soichiro Honda.
It's not very fair to compare a car that was introduced 21 years ago to its modern day brethren. However, just as you said, the NSX was a marvel back in its day. It went toe-to-toe with the Ferrari 348 and gave it a bad hair day. Just look at its achievements and how long it took Ferrari to catch up. The first production car to feature titanium connecting rods, it took Ferrari 4 years to catch up with the F355. The first production car to use an aluminum body and chassis (it didn't feature carbon fiber contrary to what on the posters said), it took 9 years for Ferrari to catch up with the 360.
The high prices it commands reflects its limited production and that it's still a car coveted by many -- think of the 993 Turbo and how it sells for as much as, if not more, than the 996 Turbo. Good thing is, and I've noticed this for many years, is that their values have remained stable.
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Originally Posted by Fairlady Z Bobby Rahal and Aryton Senna had a hand in the development of the NSX. A legend helped develop the NSX and the car would be used as a benchmark to create another legend -- the McLaren F1. Here's an interesting fact: McLaren first approached Honda to create the V12 for the F1 but declined as they wanted to devote their time to racing. The NSX competed in the 1995 Le Mans winning the GT2 class and placed 8th overall, the F40 LM placed 12th. Just like the F40, the NSX was the last car to be conceived by the founder of the company, in this case, Soichiro Honda.
It's not very fair to compare a car that was introduced 21 years ago to its modern day brethren. However, just as you said, the NSX was a marvel back in its day. It went toe-to-toe with the Ferrari 348 and gave it a bad hair day. Just look at its achievements and how long it took Ferrari to catch up. The first production car to feature titanium connecting rods, it took Ferrari 4 years to catch up with the F355. The first production car to use an aluminum body and chassis (it didn't feature carbon fiber contrary to what on the posters said), it took 9 years for Ferrari to catch up with the 360.
The high prices it commands reflects its limited production and that it's still a car coveted by many -- think of the 993 Turbo and how it sells for as much as, if not more, than the 996 Turbo. Good thing is, and I've noticed this for many years, is that their values have remained stable. | Awesome!
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#47 | what manner of phaggotry is this
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When Honda built the NSX they took a look at the Ferarri 328 and the brand new 348 and said "We want to build a car that out performs it on Sunday, and that you can reliably drive to work on Monday morning, and get serviced at any Honda/Acura dealership"
At the time, the 348 made 300hp and weighed around 3100lbs. When the NSX came out it made a little less HP due to the Japanese HP rule, but weighed 150lbs less.
Its often said its because of the NSX that Ferarri pulled up their socks and started building the Modern cars we know today. Simply look at the difference from the 348 to the 355 (which is my all time 2nd favorite car).
As was stated, Senna was a key figure in the development being a Honda F1 driver for 7 years.
I still remember watching MotorTrend TV in 1997 before I knew anything about cars and seeing a yellow NSX-T being tested. I fell inlove instantly even tho I said outloud "Honda built that?"
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Originally Posted by Xnova86 this car has turbo? | lol n00b!
Anyhow, there is no way in hell that car has 1500miles. Look at the paint and tread depth, and the floormats/seats.
COMPLETE BULLSHIT, and I am sure it would be a million times more obvious in person.
I have seen cars with that kind of mileage at a similar age, and assuming they were kept in a good place, when cleaned up, they are virtually showroom.
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