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Old 12-21-2011, 09:38 PM   #551
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It's not the steroids that makes the champion but it's hard training .. dedication, the diet and sacrifice and genetics that person has.. what makes the champion.
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Old 12-24-2011, 12:21 PM   #552
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It's not the steroids that makes the champion but it's hard training .. dedication, the diet and sacrifice and genetics that person has.. what makes the champion.
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Old 12-24-2011, 12:27 PM   #553
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184 grams of protein per serving!
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Old 12-24-2011, 12:46 PM   #554
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^ holy fck, that's almost 2 day serving of calories for me... I don't go over 1500 a day...
weight gainers are weight gainers though


age old question always cracks me up.... would you rather be a toothpick and weightgain work yourself out to a muscular frame, or be overweight or have to slim yourself down to the same frame....

which one you guys think is harder ?
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??? 1500 are you trying to cut like crazy ???
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Old 12-24-2011, 12:51 PM   #556
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yea, trying to go from around 10% body fat down to 5%

EDIT: whoops forgot to shoutout, Oxy Elite Pro it helped me get from something like 16% down to around 10%
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unless you're going for competition where you need to be under a strict diet i wouldn't do it, you're going to lose a lot of muscle that way; your energy will start coming from muscles and not carbs
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I hear ya Alpha but I'm not that concerned about muscle loss, my body naturally good at keepin my frame and size the way it is no matter what I do... I was 5'10 and lean 170lbs+ in like grade 8, good family genes..
My only goals are to keep my fat between 5% and 10% for as many years as I can, and training to turn on as many fast twitch muscle fibers as I can for explosiveness, not really about massive size.

What are you guys working out for ? just for the looks & health benefit? or is it for sport performance, hockey or whatever ??
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because humans are meant to be strong and not sit their lazy asses watching tv all day
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5% body fat w0w
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5% wow is that just so you can say you did it? Or is there a guy you're looking to impress?
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just basically a personal goal to keep me motivated, I don't know of any athlete that doesn't have one.... we all need'em because when we start settling, that's when we get sloppy...

I was tank measured at 7% few years back in europe when I was playin ball, and the team wasn't even lifting all that much, well the smaller guards like me anyway, only the forwards and centers were... I figure now that I'm lifting few times a week should be doable by summertime
I dont know how accurate the tank was though at the time, it's usually one of the better testing forms
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just basically a personal goal to keep me motivated, I don't know of any athlete that doesn't have one.... we all need'em because when we start settling, that's when we get sloppy...

I was tank measured at 7% few years back in europe when I was playin ball, and the team wasn't even lifting all that much, well the smaller guards like me anyway, only the forwards and centers were... I figure now that I'm lifting few times a week should be doable by summertime
I dont know how accurate the tank was though at the time, it's usually one of the better testing forms
Tank is pretty accurate
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I hear ya Alpha but I'm not that concerned about muscle loss, my body naturally good at keepin my frame and size the way it is no matter what I do... I was 5'10 and lean 170lbs+ in like grade 8, good family genes..
My only goals are to keep my fat between 5% and 10% for as many years as I can, and training to turn on as many fast twitch muscle fibers as I can for explosiveness, not really about massive size.

What are you guys working out for ? just for the looks & health benefit? or is it for sport performance, hockey or whatever ??
I workout because it keeps me disciplined and gives me a sense of self confidence and accomplishment, something that I lacked and lost. Also for all the little things like looks, health, and strength. I do more strength training than hypertrophy, rather be strong-lean then bulky/lift as much as the guy who's 50lbs lighter
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^ holy fck, that's almost 2 day serving of calories for me... I don't go over 1500 a day...
weight gainers are weight gainers though


age old question always cracks me up.... would you rather be a toothpick and weightgain work yourself out to a muscular frame, or be overweight or have to slim yourself down to the same frame....

which one you guys think is harder ?
gaining weight is a bitch when you are 180 and 6'7
but just like anything it takes time and goals
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^ let's swap lol, i'm 6'1 and ALWAYS wanted to be exactly 6'7, it's the ideal height for the position I play in basketball
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broke out the MP Assault orange mango and its so good taste wise!!!!!!!!! pretty good pump too
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broke out the MP Assault orange mango and its so good taste wise!!!!!!!!! pretty good pump too
same here first dose yesterday, 1/2 scoop 30 mins before workout and i felt it halfway through my workout. near the end i just felt like i could go on for another hour. felt very focused (sometimes i daydream between sets) and increased energy. rasp lemonade is pretty good. waiting for it to kick in right now..

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maybe i should go and try assault, seems like some people tolerant of stimulants are enjoying the pump from it..

or maybe it's just a placebo effect
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maybe i should go and try assault, seems like some people tolerant of stimulants are enjoying the pump from it..

or maybe it's just a placebo effect
if you are immune to all pre workout try spike shooter + beta alanine shit will fuck you up

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it has 1000 mg of caffeine in it which is just a bit more than razor8, doubt it lol

on my list is assault next but need to try a sample
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