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Their message they have replaced the website with reads: "We have had enough of this bigotry. They failed at providing a violence-free environment for their students, and when Zangief Kid (Casey) took things in his own hands they bitchslapped him for defending himself."
Perfectly said, imo.
I hope Zangief Jr "handles some business" with the school admin too.
"But police and bullying experts are concerned by the video’s publication on Facebook and the overwhelmingly positive reaction to the older boy’s retaliation against his attacker.
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VIOLENCE IS THE ONLY ANSWER with bullies.. God.. Someone pls fucking find these experts and let me beat the shit out of them and let me see how they stop me . They'll have to use force.. fucking faggots.
There's this program, the "It gets better" webcam program. It encourages people to find some solution to bullying by posting those who have gotten through it. It was started by a bunch of celebrities, but even normal people can go ahead and post up videos.
I watched a few of them and realized something: A lot of the people who made videos had never been bullied. And I knew that because of what they suggested. The people who had experienced bullying said things like "You're not as alone as you think" and "It will get worse, but then one day it will start to get better" or "Find the strength to keep going." But the people who didn't get bullied? "Tell someone who can help" "Find a teacher, or a counselor" and so on and so forth.
I was bullied as a highschooler. And in elementary school. By bigger and smaller kids, and even by some younger kids. I was bullied for a variety of reasons--some of them I could have fixed had I been aware of them. Sadly, my parents are both very supportive, kind and intellectual; they never forced me to do anything but also never pushed me to do things either. No sports teams, no band practices, no pottery or acting classes. It took me until I was almost out of highschool to finally find a group of people I could get along with and spend time with, and even so I was still bullied in so many other situations. Telling teachers only makes people more and more cruel as soon as they're out of the teacher's sight, because the teachers can't punish anyone for anything they haven't seen.
One specific time I remember, I had been getting pushed around by this little mouthy shit not to dissimilar from the kid in this video. One day, he just pushed me too far and I was lucky. There was nobody else around (with the exception of one other kid who was "in on it"), and I grabbed him by the neck, shoved him against the wall and squeezed. When his face started turning a deep red I realized I didn't want to go to jail for killing the little fuck so I let him go. But something happened.
He stopped.
After that, I didn't become violent. I didn't get more agressive. I didn't get more friends. I didn't get more respect. I didn't get anything except a little respite from that one little shit.
Years later, I've realized that there are a million factors in getting bullied, and the biggest one is this: Everyone wants to be a bit stronger by making everyone else just a little less strong. And the targets who are bullied are kids who make themselves targets either willingly or not.
Moral of the story? Violence isn't always the real answer. But neither is telling a teacher or a parent, unless they're going to be offering suggestions on how to fix the problem yourself. The real solution? Figure out why you're getting bullied, and fix it. If you can't, then find some kind of leverage to take the pressure off.
I was bullied as a highschooler. And in elementary school.
as was i, the thing i learned was either take it, and don't let them get the satisfaction of knowing it bugs you, or defend your self. When I did defend my self, guess what happened? They stopped as I wasn't a easy target.
You just have to learn to stand up for your self, if not it will keep on happening.
That kid has received so much respect world wide.
I wouldn't be surprised if he is never picked on again just due to the fact they know he won't let them push him round any more.
Everything is kosher as long as they're doing the pushing, but when their victims push back (or in some cases push back even harder), they're the first to cry foul.
Another observation I've made as well are the people who cry foul when bullies push back are always adamant about avoidance on physical contact. It's always resort to your patience, or report to authorities. I love it when people think they know better of situations they have never found themselves in. Just like 7seven says, I wonder how these experts will talk 7seven out of beating them in the middle of a beat down.
i think what he did was right.
imho, i would have done the same in his shoes.
if he continued to bottle up all that's happened, his anger that unleashes in the future will only be more harsh.
but because he stood up at this point, he was able to take a deep breath and not go the one extra step that may lead to, a murder or suicide.
Everything is kosher as long as they're doing the pushing, but when their victims push back (or in some cases push back even harder), they're the first to cry foul.
Another observation I've made as well are the people who cry foul when bullies push back are always adamant about avoidance on physical contact. It's always resort to your patience, or report to authorities. I love it when people think they know better of situations they have never found themselves in. Just like 7seven says, I wonder how these experts will talk 7seven out of beating them in the middle of a beat down.
By hitting me back even harder. Because it's the only way. And they fucking KNOW it..
Fucking cock suckers, seriously. I hate them with such a passion.. Violence isn't the answer.. neither is trying to talk an animal out of killing you. What god damn fantasy world do they live in I'll never know.
But I'm glad Casey is at where he is.. serves him right to be in the spotlight with thousands, hell millions supporting him.
TBH, I know guys like the little shit face fuck who initiated the fight, in all honesty, I hope he gets severely crippled. $1,000.00 says he's going to end up as a douchebag anyway as an adult , drink & drive and kill someone.
I was bullied when I lived in germany, this kid kept hitting me with objects he could just find and mess with me, so I'd cry, go tell teacher, my mom came, teacher wags finger at student, students says ok and repeats the same thing next day. The third time it happened I fought back by grabbing a stick from his hand and repeatedly hitting him on the head with it. I have no remorse for fucked up kids with weird fetishes and sadistic fantasies, much less having them take out their gay shit on me.
I'm not a fighter by any means, and will avoid a fighting at almost all cost, but I have a limit too and will hit back with anything I can get my hands on and it will damage the bully. Permanently or not, I couldn't care less.
But you know what the problem is.. these "experts" as Graeme said, they know shit-all about bullying.
What does Miss.Whateverthefuck know about bullying? She probably took a whole lot of dick in college, graduated with a Psychology degree and now shes an expert.. right.
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Lone bullies don't really scare me anymore. My issue is where they've got backup, and yours isn't around.
Now those guys I think are pussies.
that is so true, from my experience anyways. I remember when I was in high school, there was this tiny ass guy that would talk so much shit to me when he was with all his tough guy friends. I saw him by himself the next day at the bus stop after school and he was all friendly and telling me how he was joking and he wouldn't have done any of the things he said, of course a while later I run into him when hes in a group and he is back to shit talking saying he gon slap me if I looked at him wrong lol. I think the whole mob mentality is pretty pathetic because your "backup" will not always be there so for me I try to make sure I never say anything I won't stand by, by myself. As far as the 8 friends that ditched him lol fuck em man you don't need friends like that anyways, why would you need friends that flee at the first sign of trouble?
Everything is kosher as long as they're doing the pushing, but when their victims push back (or in some cases push back even harder), they're the first to cry foul.
Exactly.. want to be a tough guy ? start a fight with a guy bigger and more psychotic than you. Make sure he's gang related and knows not to get caught...
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Another observation I've made as well are the people who cry foul when bullies push back are always adamant about avoidance on physical contact. It's always resort to your patience, or report to authorities. I love it when people think they know better of situations they have never found themselves in. Just like 7seven says, I wonder how these experts will talk 7seven out of beating them in the middle of a beat down.
Reminds me of Columbine when a lot of people were blaming the shooters' parents, eminem, marilyn manson, video games..etc....
Looking at the parents, they seemed nice parents who provided everything for their kids. Made me wonder why no one blamed the bullies. It was also a predominant white suburban school. In an inner city school were shooting and violent happens more predominantly, the media never gave attention to them. Anyways, I'm getting way too off topic...
Columbine isn't off topic, that was an extreme form of exactly what Casey did and the parents, video games, or music had nothing to do with it. Those kids got pushed to the point of no return and they wanted revenge as well as to end their own lives. Most parents have no idea what goes on at school in regards to bullying because kids are too ashamed or have too much pride to be open about it.
As harsh as it may sound the bullies at Columbine got what was coming to them. By all accounts those two were nice quiet kids that kept to themselves though they were a bit nerdy and eccentric. It takes years of abuse to push someone who knows the difference between right and wrong to pick up a gun, kill their abusers, and then take their own life. I got bullied a fair amount in grade school too, but I can only imagine how bad it was for those guys to go to that level.
Thankfully Casey seems like a very level-headed kid and didn't snap at the same time he was contemplating suicide or the result could have been similar. Difference in Columbine was the ease of access to weapons in the US.
Holy crap that bully interview was just annoying. He sure as shit didn't look too sad when he was dancing around punching the other kid multiple times. Now that the truth comes to light, he whimpers and tries to come off as a victim. You can tell by his mannerisms and hesitation to answer certain questions that he's just grasping to save face - and his dad is facilitating it, WTF!!!
Suck it up accept the repercussions, apologize and get your shit together - not that hard to understand.
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Columbine isn't off topic, that was an extreme form of exactly what Casey did .....
The difference is premeditation. Also, if one thinks death is a suitable punishment for the bullies.
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