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03-17-2011, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Euro7r  Minimum wage is only applicable for people that are like highschool students that are starting to work to get experience at retail/fast food industry. This doesn't really concern most of us, if your a grown up adult making minimum wage, that means your dicking around way too much. | YOUR = Your burger is delicious
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03-17-2011, 04:43 PM
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ABERDEEN WAGES
sales = 8
keyholder = 9
supervisor = 10
wage does not increase the longer you work there
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03-17-2011, 04:43 PM
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I did a stint a Crappy tire at one point of my life.
I honestly worked physically three times harder for a fraction of the pay I make now. Dealing with stupid/ornery/asshole customers, dealing with shitty managers who scream at employees, for peanuts.
I mean I have a fuckload more responsibility now than I did back then, but I'd say my job now is way more lax.
I think anyone who thinks working in the service/retail sector is menial, worthless work has never worked in that sector. Their opinions are invalid to me. I think they deserve the wage increase.
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03-17-2011, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by bakasam People at Aberdeen make like 8$/hr and even less at daiso i think :P
Lots of places also start like 8.50~8.75 | Cheap fucks don't count. We all know most asian people are cheap when it comes to business. If they want to pay less than $8/hr it's the employees fault for taking the job. Since there are MANY other jobs out there. Anyone who says they can't find a job that they can live off is not trying hard enough.
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03-17-2011, 04:52 PM
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#105 | | I STILL don't get it
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Originally Posted by falcon I have never worked for minimum wage in my life. I have not gone to university, I have just graduated HS. My first job was at a motorcycle dealership making $10/hr washing bikes. I eventually got a few raises making that $14/hr. And that then turned into another job opporitunity to sell motorcycles where I made 45-50k/yr and then from that to service advisor making $20/hr.
The people working these minimum wage jobs are either 1) not supporting themselves or 2) the bottom end feeders, lazy, do what you have to do and go home type of people. Anyone with half a brain is not making minimum wage and if they did if you work hard for a few months you get a raise (at any normal job anyways). All this is going to do is raise the cost of hiring some moron HS drop out and he will think he's boss because he's now making $10.25/hr instead of $8/hr. | why did you take the service advisor position ? didn't you just downgrade your salary ?
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03-17-2011, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by TheNewGirl Falcon > Your lack of education is showing. | Way to make a stab at my education. I was an honor roll student in HS I just did not feel that University was for me since I did not know what I wanted to do, nor waste my money on something I didn't like. I am further along in life than many of my peers who spent 4-5 years in University only to graduate and find no jobs available.
With the career I am pursuing now, if I continue at the pace I am at I should be making 80-90k in 5 years and have job security. And no, this is not the M/C industry, that is what I did for the last 4-5 years.
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03-17-2011, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by GrapeDrink why did you take the service advisor position ? didn't you just downgrade your salary ? | I didn't like selling. It was stressful and living on commission sucks. I wanted to have a known paycheque every two weeks.
And with overtime since I worked on average 9hrs a day I ended up making on average the same I did selling, but without having to listen to someone talk about his 1962 triumph whateverthefuck for an hour, pretend to be interested, send them on a test drive and only to have them decide they have to "talk to the wife" and will "let me know." People suck.
Sales is OK, but it's a lot of time commitment and the commission thing makes you always uncertain of your pay.
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03-17-2011, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by achiam YOUR = Your burger is delicious
That means you are dicking around too much
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This is why I never did well in English  and work in the Accounting industry instead LOL
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03-17-2011, 05:30 PM
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I've never worked minimum wage in my life either, and couldn't imagine having to survive on it. The increase is pretty aggressive, but I do agree with an increase.
My dad runs a small business, landscaping. We've never paid as low as minimum wage and hire unskilled manual labor.
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03-17-2011, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by falcon Way to make a stab at my education. I was an honor roll student in HS I just did not feel that University was for me since I did not know what I wanted to do, nor waste my money on something I didn't like. I am further along in life than many of my peers who spent 4-5 years in University only to graduate and find no jobs available.
With the career I am pursuing now, if I continue at the pace I am at I should be making 80-90k in 5 years and have job security. And no, this is not the M/C industry, that is what I did for the last 4-5 years. | I hate to say it but you sound like a lot of people I went to HS with that say "in x years I will be making XX amount of money if I continue where I am going"
I think a lot of those had diluted dreams especially those who got into apprentice work like 5-6 years ago thinking that now they would be in the 100,000/year. There really is not that many people legally making >$100,000/year and those who do are generally well educated, own their business or work 80 hour weeks.
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03-17-2011, 10:59 PM
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Well you don't know what I'm doing  . And it involves some schooling, but not a 4 year degree.
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03-18-2011, 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Tapioca Okay, understood. In a vacuum, this reasoning makes sense. But ultimately, I think wages are in some way tied to overall revenue which may increase if wages go up. | payroll is a fix % vs sales....usually around 11-12%. each week, I get a payroll budget based on my sales budget. So if average wage goes up, the amount of hours goes down.
If by raising the wage, revenue/sales can increase by the same proportion then hours would not be affected, however I do not think by raising the min wage, revenue will increase.
like i've stated before, the company I work for is nation wide, and Ontario doesnt get a higher pay roll % than BC despite the higher min wage, which means they will operate their stores with less hours...which is probably whats going to happen here, which will result in less work for people.
again as many have mentioned this only affect those making min wage, or in industries where a lot of staff makes Min.wage.
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03-18-2011, 12:53 AM
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The gov never gives a break to the middle class. One day when all the middle class either become the poor or leave this country we shall see who is laughing.
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03-18-2011, 01:18 AM
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For the econ ppl..
What's the equilibrium min wage right now? If it's around $10, it might affect some workers and businesses at the margins. Some will lose, some will win. But overall, life will go on, right?
If you set min wage to say $20, then this will happen: 
Correct? Discuss!
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03-18-2011, 01:18 AM
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#115 | | I don't get it
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer labour ready paid $10 an hour before this..
any job where you might have to actually lift a finger can easilly pay 12+ if you think you cant find them then your not looking. | I suck at job hunting, any help would be appreciated.
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03-18-2011, 01:47 AM
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#116 | | Say! Say! Say!
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Originally Posted by darkfroggy I suck at job hunting, any help would be appreciated. | I'd say about 90% of jobs nowadays are from referrals.
(Just throwing a number out of my ass that seems appropriate)
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03-18-2011, 05:03 AM
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#117 | | WOAH! i think Vtec just kicked in!
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Originally Posted by anti_rice well I guess there will be more self check outs at grocery stores in the next couple of years. | This is exactly the trend. I live in London, and Tesco, which is the most common grocery store, switched to about half auto checkout tills. You can't cheat it coz it knows how much each scanned product weighs.
Actually I have cheated it once by declaring a pineapple as a potato, but that's another story lol.
The most efficient market allows complete free competition of supply vs demand. When certain people at the top become ultra rich, it trickles down society so that everyone benefits as a whole.
When you artificially try to raise the living income of the bottom, it trickles up by other means -- increased costs (e.g. a hamburger goes up 20 cents, etc) and the market will auto adjust for the new measures.
If you clamped down on everything, e.g. assigning salaries to every job, this is communism, and society as a whole lives a crappier life with no incentive to work harder and become rich.
If the adult chumps working at fast food restaurants were paid as much as a job requiring several years of education, you wouldn't bother trying harder.
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03-18-2011, 08:43 AM
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#118 | | Diagonally parked in a parallel universe
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Originally Posted by falcon Way to make a stab at my education. I was an honor roll student in HS I just did not feel that University was for me since I did not know what I wanted to do, nor waste my money on something I didn't like. I am further along in life than many of my peers who spent 4-5 years in University only to graduate and find no jobs available.
With the career I am pursuing now, if I continue at the pace I am at I should be making 80-90k in 5 years and have job security. And no, this is not the M/C industry, that is what I did for the last 4-5 years. | I didn't mean your school education.
I think the whole - people who earn min wage are lazy and should get off their asses - line make you fucking ignorant. That's what I meant. Next time I'll be more to the point.
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03-18-2011, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp The gov never gives a break to the middle class. One day when all the middle class either become the poor or leave this country we shall see who is laughing. | Once the baby boomers are out of the picture there really won't be a middle class any more. Especially here in Vancouver.
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03-18-2011, 09:48 AM
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#120 | | YOU CANT CUT BACK ON FUNDING! YOU WILL REGRET THIS
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Originally Posted by goo3 For the econ ppl..
What's the equilibrium min wage right now? If it's around $10, it might affect some workers and businesses at the margins. Some will lose, some will win. But overall, life will go on, right?
If you set min wage to say $20, then this will happen:
Correct? Discuss! | Lol thats like ripped straight out of my econ textbooks Posted via RS Mobile | |
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03-18-2011, 10:04 AM
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Finally, after four years, I'll get a raise! 
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03-18-2011, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TheNewGirl I didn't mean your school education.
I think the whole - people who earn min wage are lazy and should get off their asses - line make you fucking ignorant. That's what I meant. Next time I'll be more to the point. | Well then we agree to disagree. I strongly believe that if you make minimum wage, and can not support yourself then you need to find other means of making income. The whole socialist bullshit government pisses me off. "Oh, you don't make enough money flipping burgers at McDicks?, well we'll just raise minimum wage for you so you don't need to actually strive for something better."
I've been laid off from jobs before and also let go. I had absolutely no problem finding another job that paid in the $15-$18/hr area.
The people sitting full time at $8/hr, and have been for a while are chumps and need to strive for something better.
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03-18-2011, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Bedroom Eyes Finally, after four years, I'll get a raise! | You've been working for FOUR YEARS at minimum wage? Seriously?
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03-18-2011, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by StylinRed They're just going to tax it away anyhow | In this case taxing away 20% means you still get to keep 80%.
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03-18-2011, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by falcon You've been working for FOUR YEARS at minimum wage? Seriously? | I'll get a raise too at one of my jobs. But if you were to factor in tips...
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