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dbaz 03-31-2011 12:47 PM

closest to liberal farthest from conservatives but id still vote for conservatives

TheNewGirl 03-31-2011 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 7369235)
Is that on top of or instead of the Child Tax Credit?

Instead of the what ever it is a month people with children under 5 get right now (regardless of if they need it or not). The Libs suggest instead giving the money directly to the childcare centers to lower the over all cost of child care and open up more spots for children (which currently is the real problem even more so than cost imo).

As for the $ to students, the details will of course be ironed out if it gets legislated, but $1000 isn't going to make more people go to school. You still have to meet the entry requirements to get in. I would hope it would only go to students in public institutions (UBC, Kwantlan yes, Private College of Teaching People Nothing Useful, No).

$1000 a year is $4-5000 (which turns into to like $5-8000 with interest depending how fast they can pay it off) less in student loans that the average BA/BSc student will have to carry. It may elevate the need for student loans completely for some people. This means they get out there, paying taxes and putting money back into the economy sooner when they're out of school and employed which is a good thing. And it means young people getting into the housing market earlier as well which is an even better thing and helps to preserve the rapidly shrinking middle class.

I don't think that's a bad thing at all.

I wish we could financially afford to run like other countries where Uni is completely free but the standards to get in are considerably higher but sadly that's not doable (for now).

gars 03-31-2011 01:06 PM

I'm just interested to see where they plan on getting the money from. Announcing spending of 1+ Billion is nice because you can see where it benefits people - but that's either going to just put us further into debt, or they're going to cut it from other departments (read: Military)

TheNewGirl 03-31-2011 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by gars (Post 7369421)
I'm just interested to see where they plan on getting the money from. Announcing spending of 1+ Billion is nice because you can see where it benefits people - but that's either going to just put us further into debt, or they're going to cut it from other departments (read: Military)

That is the most important question IMO for sure. And I would like to see ALL of the party leaders explain where they intent to get their $$ from.

vitaminG 03-31-2011 01:34 PM

weird that im closest to liberals but if i compare my responses the conservatives are closest on each question and im just ont he economic right and social conservative. at this point the liberals couldnt bribe me enough to vote for them.

dutch 03-31-2011 03:42 PM

To the people that came out closest to liberals but would still vote conservative...

Why? Why would you vote against your best interest/principles?

Just wondering.

Manic! 03-31-2011 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TheNewGirl (Post 7369400)
Instead of the what ever it is a month people with children under 5 get right now (regardless of if they need it or not). The Libs suggest instead giving the money directly to the childcare centers to lower the over all cost of child care and open up more spots for children (which currently is the real problem even more so than cost imo).

The conservatives make it sound like it will be extra spending when in reality it will just taking existing money and focusing it on day care.

HansonBoy 03-31-2011 04:37 PM

Closest to Liberals and furthest from Conservative, which is fairly accurate. If it weren't for my distrust in Ingatieff, this election would be a no-brainer for me.

carisear 03-31-2011 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TheNewGirl (Post 7369195)
Closest to Liberal, Furthest from Conservative.... is anyone surprised?


yes, i am.

why? because reading through some of your responses from the gender equity thread and the other political thread, you sound like you are a true orange NDP.

Bouncing Bettys 03-31-2011 05:18 PM

is a repost http://www.revscene.net/forums/gover...t641040p4.html

anyways, it was slow as hell when i took it the first day it came out.

I thought I'd line up somewhere between NDP and Liberal but I ended up Green

I won't be voting green.

taylor192 03-31-2011 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 7369610)
The conservatives make it sound like it will be extra spending when in reality it will just taking existing money and focusing it on day care.

What existing money? The government is running a deficit - there's no money.

Blinky 03-31-2011 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dutch (Post 7369604)
To the people that came out closest to liberals but would still vote conservative...

Why? Why would you vote against your best interest/principles?

Just wondering.

This is an interesting thread; the original concept is based on the political compass ( http://politicalcompass.org/ ), except that Canadian political parties have been pasted in.

I'm not one of those liberal leaners con-voters, but there is more to voting than just ideology. Platform matters.

For instance, someone in this thread has already stated that they'd vote Conservative except for the fact that they are (or are at least perceived as) socially conservative. In the past, that has been something that has affected my views of them as well.

Manic! 03-31-2011 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by taylor192 (Post 7369715)
What existing money? The government is running a deficit - there's no money.

So were did Harper get the money for the child tax credit, the F-35's and the fake lake?

SkinnyPupp 03-31-2011 07:37 PM

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Here's the problem with Canadian politics: The only party with decent economic platform are conservatives, and the only ones with a decent social platform are fucken communists :troll:

We need someone in the upper right quadrant to vote for. Someone who is smart when it comes to business, but also not a bunch of religious fuckups.

Great68 03-31-2011 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 7369990)

We need someone in the upper right quadrant to vote for. Someone who is smart when it comes to business, but also not a bunch of religious fuckups.

Wholeheartedly agree.

LiquidTurbo 03-31-2011 07:45 PM


lol.

Gilgamesh 03-31-2011 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by gars (Post 7369310)
i think the chart is skewed. The Conservatives of Canada aren't that far right.

I'm closest to Liberals - but still voting Conservatives.

I had the same thing! I'm definitely not voting for Liberals either.

darkfroggy 03-31-2011 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dutch (Post 7369604)
To the people that came out closest to liberals but would still vote conservative...

Why? Why would you vote against your best interest/principles?

Just wondering.

Because an online, one-size-fits-all, 5 minute quiz should dictate our voting preferences.

SkinnyPupp 03-31-2011 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by darkfroggy (Post 7370068)
Because an online, one-size-fits-all, 5 minute quiz should dictate our voting preferences.

If you click around in the quiz, it is actually very detailed. The quiz itself gives you an idea on where you stand, and from there you can read about all the platforms, leaders, etc. It is probably a more useful tool than listening to propaganda and phony debates.

But I agree it shouldn't be the ONLY method of choosing who to vote for.

LiquidTurbo 04-01-2011 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by darkfroggy (Post 7370068)
Because an online, one-size-fits-all, 5 minute quiz should dictate our voting preferences.

Actually, for 99% of the general population, it probably does.
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Culverin 04-01-2011 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 7369990)
Here's the problem with Canadian politics: The only party with decent economic platform are conservatives, and the only ones with a decent social platform are fucken communists :troll:

We need someone in the upper right quadrant to vote for. Someone who is smart when it comes to business, but also not a bunch of religious fuckups.

Mine was about 1cm below yours. And I totally agree with you, I think the conservatives are the only ones that can seem to handle money decently.

My trust for them is like peeing into a strong wind, it doesn't go very far, and I'm just courting :fuuuuu:

taylor192 04-01-2011 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 7369947)
So were did Harper get the money for the child tax credit, the F-35's and the fake lake?

The F35s were started by.... thus might surprise you... the Liberals. Ask them where the money was supposed to come from.

The fake lake and other spending I have a problem with too. That was a huge waste.

The child tax credit and other social spending has been part of ensuring the opposition passes the budget. So blame them for the deficit.

the_law82 04-01-2011 09:51 AM

I am closest to the Liberals and furthest from the Green.

I have to agree that the Conservatives are not that far right and it's their strong views on abortion, marijuana and the like that pushes them that far.

As for voting, I am undecided at this point. It is between the Liberals and Conservatives. However, regardless of who I vote for, my riding will be won by the NDP (Hastings-Sunrise)....

I will be moving to a different riding in about two weeks, do you know if I can vote in my new riding by election time?

Culverin 04-01-2011 10:05 AM

I think you just need something to prove that you've moved, like having bills or something sent there?

taylor192 04-01-2011 10:30 AM

This is why you do not want to vote Liberal/NDP, it'll give more power to Quebexico.

http://www.theprovince.com/Quebec+de...805/story.html

I'd rather give a province a loan to get a project going than just hand out $8B to Quebexico.


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