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Death2Theft 03-31-2011 09:14 PM

North America stuck with crappy wagons.
 
Why dont we get the cool stuff like like the evo wagon or the rs4 wagon. All we get are endless variations of suv's. The only other possible alternative is to build a volvo wagon but even those are getting near 4000lbs. Are there any awd wagons out there worth tinkering with that i'm forgetting?

1990TSI 03-31-2011 09:19 PM

This is your best bet

http://www.kiaautosinfo.com/wp-conte...-Touring-3.jpg



:troll:

Expresso 03-31-2011 09:40 PM

Probably cause there is no market for it.

CorneringArtist 03-31-2011 09:43 PM

There is the WRX wagon, and the A4 Avant is pretty much your best bet for an Audi wagon with quattro.

The market here is people-hauling minivans because of our big roads. I'm guessing that the market for wagons is large in Europe because of road size, and small-displacement diesel engines are better suited for wagons. I could be wrong about the diesel thing, but TDI Jetta Wagons seem to be popular here.

Spectre_Cdn 03-31-2011 09:54 PM

AWD/4WD wagons, you say? :fullofwin:
http://www.dragtimes.com/images/6910...aru-Legacy.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...1217081346.jpg
http://joshp77.files.wordpress.com/2...9e80d2783c.jpg
http://www.toyotaoldies.de/wallpaper/AL25.jpg
http://www.terra2imports.ca/ab-large...6422581016.jpg
:troll:

TypeRNammer 03-31-2011 09:58 PM

Even the USDM Acura TSX has a garbage trim, only 4 cyl. and only automatic transmission.

vitaminG 03-31-2011 10:00 PM

you can get a cts wagon with AWD, which is pretty nice if you ask me... and you can also get it with 550hp and 6spd manual which is quite awesome

http://carsroute.com/wp-content/uplo...2-1024x682.jpg

roastpuff 03-31-2011 10:16 PM

CTS-V Wagon is awesome.

Death2Theft 03-31-2011 10:43 PM

Useless when it's not AWD. That looks so bulky it has to be over 4000Lbs without awd.
Quote:

Originally Posted by vitaminG (Post 7370385)
you can get a cts wagon with AWD, which is pretty nice if you ask me... and you can also get it with 550hp and 6spd manual which is quite awesome

http://carsroute.com/wp-content/uplo...2-1024x682.jpg


asahai69 03-31-2011 10:57 PM

with 556hp and 551tq. it dosent matter what the curb weight is

roastpuff 03-31-2011 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asahai69 (Post 7370502)
with 556hp and 551tq. it dosent matter what the curb weight is

Just go and put a Hennessey V800 kit on it. Weight problem solved! :fullofwin:

1990TSI 03-31-2011 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roastpuff (Post 7370531)
Just go and put a Hennessey V800 kit on it. Weight problem solved! :fullofwin:

hennessey..... yea.

we've been through this before

asahai69 03-31-2011 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roastpuff (Post 7370531)
Just go and put a Hennessey V800 kit on it. Weight problem solved! :fullofwin:

gona end up with a helluva lot more problems than weight if u go with hennessey.

lingenfelter ftw :)

vitaminG 03-31-2011 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Death2Theft (Post 7370475)
Useless when it's not AWD. That looks so bulky it has to be over 4000Lbs without awd.


oh no it weighs 4000lbs, its a luxury performance station wagon what the hell you expect? You want a roomy station wagon but you also want it to be lightweight?

Id be willing to bet your RS4 wagon is pretty damn close to 4000 lbs as well.

toyota86 03-31-2011 11:48 PM

impreza wrx wagon
e46 325xi 330xi wagon
e30 325ix wagon importable now

Death2Theft 04-01-2011 08:37 AM

v10tt rs6 vs a lil evo wagon. Guy goes full retard on the evo yet the rs6 has nearly double the power.
This video explains it better. If i'm getting something that weighs 4000+lbs i may as well get an suv.
Whats the point of rwd power in vancouver where it rains and snows?
Lux puts me to sleep. I want something more raw to keep me alert. RS4 avant is 3638lbs. Evo wagon is 3300lbs. If the cts-v had awd it'd be even heavier than it is now.
The imprezza wagon is abit small compared to the other two. While with the bmw's there not exactly much u can do with them.

PK-EK 04-01-2011 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Death2Theft (Post 7370269)
Why dont we get the cool stuff like like the evo wagon or the rs4 wagon. All we get are endless variations of suv's. The only other possible alternative is to build a volvo wagon but even those are getting near 4000lbs. Are there any awd wagons out there worth tinkering with that i'm forgetting?

you have the answer here.
Auto makers think that North Americans are all of the SUV and they don't see a point in bringing in wagons.
if you look at the places in the world where they have lots of wagons; they have few SUVs

ilvtofu 04-01-2011 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Death2Theft (Post 7370475)
Useless when it's not AWD. That looks so bulky it has to be over 4000Lbs without awd.

Take a look at these things going around the nurburgring and tell me that car is "useless" when it comes to performance. It's no GTR or ZR1 but the CTS-V is sweet.

Anyways, with the shift to CUVs I'm sure you'll be seeing a lot more hot CUVs in the next few years

Death2Theft 04-01-2011 09:59 AM

It's useless in vancouver, unless I lived in germany what the fuck does the ring have to do with anything.
Quote:

Originally Posted by ilvtofu (Post 7370919)
Take a look at these things going around the nurburgring and tell me that car is "useless" when it comes to performance. It's no GTR or ZR1 but the CTS-V is sweet.

Anyways, with the shift to CUVs I'm sure you'll be seeing a lot more hot CUVs in the next few years


bloodmack 04-01-2011 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Death2Theft (Post 7370991)
It's useless in vancouver, unless I lived in germany what the fuck does the ring have to do with anything.

You obviously do not appreciate the ring that much..


That evo wagon is :drool

Jsunu 04-01-2011 11:59 AM

We had this for like a year IIRC

http://d.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/xp/ca...1338983208.jpg

Great68 04-01-2011 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Death2Theft (Post 7370475)
That looks so bulky it has to be over 4000Lbs without awd.

Which is on par with other Luxo-Wagon in that class. :rolleyes:

5-Series touring: 4300
E-350 Wagon: 4350

What did you think luxury wagons were made of, feathers and pixie dust??

lowside67 04-01-2011 12:02 PM

We just sold this one, one of my most favourite wagons we've ever had. 2010 A4 Quattro S-Line with the cooled alcantra seats, 19" s-line wheels, navi, mmmmmmm... /drool

http://www.driveauto.ca/data/156076/cl/craigslist.jpg

jstn86 04-01-2011 12:09 PM

talk to any of your "non car friends"

everyone will say "ewww, a wagon? why would you ever buy that! it's so ugly!!"

only car enthusiasts appreciate wagons. most people that want a bigger car will settle for a SUV.

i love wagons/avants/variants/aerodycks/tourings etc...

but most people will see wagons as station wagons of the 70's. north americans love bigger the better mentality.

wasabisashimi 04-01-2011 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Death2Theft (Post 7370269)
Why dont we get the cool stuff like like the evo wagon or the rs4 wagon. All we get are endless variations of suv's. The only other possible alternative is to build a volvo wagon but even those are getting near 4000lbs. Are there any awd wagons out there worth tinkering with that i'm forgetting?

Audi Avant S4, S6 A4, A6... Audi allroad , STi


What do you mean we dont have wagon. How often do you see them on the road?. Not marketable here.


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