Well.... yeah. This thread is about a bar in Vancouver, so the discussion is about racial profiling in this region. Obviously how people behave in other parts of the country or world will be different.

I don't know if the way certain ethnicities behave locally is cultural or social conditioning, but I do know that bars are having less violence related issues with these unofficial profiling policies in place. I didn't make the policies I just enforced them, and they worked. Sad but true, sorry.

damn eh, that Donnelly employee who CC'd that email is gonna get canned.

why are people defending what they know is true in vancouver?

like fuck do I have to film people acting like retards to believe it?

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Which assumes the email itself isn't forged... cuz you know, that's SO hard to do...

So rather than bring this forward immediately when the claim was first made, it takes a week later for the guy to "somehow" release it?

Uh-huh. Riiiiiiight.

Although it's really difficult to understand what's going on in these emails. The website could've done a little editing without tampering with the content of the email to show a better chain of conversation. Nevertheless, I think there may be some confusion on who the emails belong to. From what I can understand from the story, the emails are in conjunction to a completely separate case from the one we have been discussing over the last few weeks.

"...the response a South Asian man in Surrey got when he was denied a reservation from the Republic nightclub in downtown Vancouver in April 2008."

The email chain was established in 2008 and it appears someone has brought this forward in efforts to provide support on the original story's premise.

You should be thankful of how tolerant vancouver is. Try getting into a bar in Calgary if your not white.

The email looks like bullshit imo. I can't imagine any company rep saying anything like that.

heres the difference. i totally can

I have never had a guestlist accepted that didn't include majority of my white friends. And I'm just a brown guy from poco.
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Donnelly group is the absolute worst. That was released just to make people think they give a damn.

There are some people on twitter that have 2-12k subscribers that are saying to ban donelly nightclub's.

The funny thing is I bet if a brown guy opened up a club in vancouver he'd screen out even more brown people.

Did they mention which club that brown dude was denied re-entry?

Anyways...since Donelly Group got brought up...I wanna say F*CK THEM!
If you're not a yaletown yuppie or dont have $20 for grease...EXPECT LONG WAITS!
I know you can say all clubs are like this but I find Donelly clubs (republic, modern, pop opera) take selective entry to the extreme.

Yup they pretty much do.

And what brown people are pissed about is that though there is a select group of people who go out, are "always on" and wreak havoc, the clubs are screwing the rest of us as well who don't act that way.

Cellar, Caprice, Venue, Celebrities, Barcelona, Ginger 62, Charles Bar, Fortune, Shine, Roxy, Cielis.

I guess if you wanna hang around other coked out gold diggers who want to talk about how industry they are go there.

i have had zero problems getting into cellar...

if anything its been the quickest/easiest to get into

Couldn't have said it better myself. Except, I'm personally not "pissed" about the current issue. I could care less if I am denied entry into a BUILDING that plays music...I mean come on now. Why get bothered up about not being allowed to spend ridiculous amounts of money:

Potential Greasing: $20
Cover - $20
Coat Check: $5
Coat Check Tip? $5
5 rounds of 4 shooters: $5x4shooters= $20x5=$120
Bartender Tip: $5

Total: $175 Average cost of the night. Of course you may not spend $120 on shooters and you may not tip or need to grease the bouncer, but it's a fair price for an average night.

Why be upset if you get to keep that $175 instead?

On another note, obviously Donnelly Night Clubs have some damage control in progress. Their public relations company is going to try their best to make the company seem unaccountable and unaware of any accusations. On the other hand, the longer this story stays in the media, the more it is hurting the company. Regardless of whether they actually did anything wrong, or whether people are on their side, this negativity will damper their image at the very least.

Bartenders are the whiniest people alive. Ff theres one thing i've learned working DT for the past 4 years.

Can you imagine a night where you make 200-300 dollars in TAX FREE money, but complain because "you don't want to deal with the crowd" or that it's too little money to be working...

Give me a fucking break.

Look again, now this thread has turned into DIAMONDS! :troll:

Las Vegas clubs have been sexually discriminating (quite obviously) since the beginning of time, it's a well-known fact that they would refuse entry (or in other case ask for a lot of $) to a bunch of dudes whereas a bunch of bangin' hot ladies would get in free with no line-up and even free drinks. I don't see anyone being all up in arms about that?

^ thats Las Vegas. this is Vancouver. please dont tell me your comparing the two

edit. and what guy is going to complain that there are too many ladies in the club. i WISH vancouver had that problem

Not only has this entire issue negatively affected the Donnelly group, but I can also see it having a negative affect on South Asians. By "airing the dirty laundry" that is in Vancouver's nightlife. I can see operations managers, from now on, just completely ignoring emails about guestlist requests from people with South Asian names. There is no proof of racism or discrimination if there is no response. You can't submit a list with fake names because they won't match the id. There will be a "Sorry, you're not on the list" from the guestlist girl, then the bouncer can, and will come up with any excuse to refuse entry as long as he doesn't pull the race card.


Its sad our society operates like this, but can anybody that works in the industry tell me i'm wrong? I'm just speculating here.

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