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adambomb 04-06-2011 12:26 PM

Bouncer at Vancouver pub accused of racial profiling
 
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VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - A large Vancouver pub group is defending a bouncer accused of racism at the Library Square Public House Saturday Morning.

A man claims he was denied re-entry because of the colour of his skin. At 1:30 a.m. Saturday, Harry says he went outside to use his cell phone. When he showed the bouncer his stamp to get back in, he says the doorman told him, "We are not letting any more brown people back into the club."

"My jaw dropped, so I asked him again 'Excuse me, can you repeat that?' and he said we are not letting any more brown people back in tonight," Harry explains. "At the same time, I see two caucasian men walk in. I didn't even want to go back in, but this is not right."

He says his friend Melissa, who is white, came looking for him, and the bouncer then repeated the statement to her. "It made me feel sick to my stomach," Melissa tells us. "It's horrible, because there's nothing I can do about it. This happens all the time."

The Donnelly Group, which owns the pub, released a statement claiming the patrons in question were asked to leave for intoxication and aggressive behaviour claiming the bouncer was threatened and physically accosted.

"I wasn't kicked out, I wasn't asked to leave," Harry insists. "I wasn't intoxicated, I wasn't aggressive. I acted as civilly as I could."

Melissa says she is disappointed with the response. "Then why wasn't I told that at the door when I asked him why my friend wasn't allowed back in?"

http://www.news1130.com/news/local/a...cial-profiling





Brown guys have been denied at bars since I began going when I turned 19 and I've seen more brown guys in fights than any other race. Is this racial profiling or do south asian males actually get aggressive when they drink and this is another case of a bouncer trying to prevent an altercation. (see:doing his job) :argue:

van_driver 04-06-2011 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by adambomb (Post 7378237)
http://www.news1130.com/news/local/a...cial-profiling





Brown guys have been denied at bars since I began going when I turned 19 and I've seen more brown guys in fights than any other race. Is this racial profiling or do south asian males actually get aggressive when they drink and this is another case of a bouncer trying to prevent an altercation. (see:doing his job) :argue:

by your logic, icbc should stop letting clais get driving licenses... They'd just be "doing there job" right? Dumbass
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Vale46Rossi 04-06-2011 12:42 PM

Pfft fuck that, I have seen a lot of intoxicated people at casinos and stuff and asked to leave..... They then pull the race card and argue with the security

Phat_R 04-06-2011 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by StevenDuang (Post 7378251)
Pfft fuck that, I have seen a lot of intoxicated people at casinos and stuff and asked to leave..... They then pull the race card and argue with the security

exactly

westopher 04-06-2011 12:47 PM

I'd say some guy and his friend saying that it happened, doesn't nessecarily mean it happened. Maybe it did, but why would the bouncer risk his job, when he could just tell the person they are wasted and tell them to fuck off. The joy of being a bouncer is that they can easily do that.

Psykopathik 04-06-2011 12:54 PM

all the bouncer had to say is no, you're NOT coming back in. you can refuse entry to anyone as long as you have a legit reason. EG: " i think you're drunk, goodnight"

adding the "brown" part was just asking for it.

westopher 04-06-2011 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Turbo E (Post 7378265)
all the bouncer had to say is no, you're NOT coming back in. you can refuse entry to anyone as long as you have a legit reason. EG: " i think you're drunk, goodnight"

adding the "brown" part was just asking for it.

Thats my point though, thats why I don't believe he said it. Bouncers aren't known for their intellectual prowess, but I'm sure most understand that will get them in shit.

Infiniti 04-06-2011 01:10 PM

more bridge and tunnel causing shit in van

Manic! 04-06-2011 01:12 PM

This happens all the time. I know in Victoria they won't let in any brown people from the mainland.

604778 04-06-2011 01:24 PM

Wow...
I work for the company too. Really wrong.

Soundy 04-06-2011 01:27 PM

Half this story is missing: this same group was already whining because they submitted a guest list of 18 people that was rejected, instantly claimed it's because they all had south-Asian-sounding names, then submitted a new list with "more Caucasian" names that was accepted.

I call bullshit on the whole thing. Love how people pull out the race card at the drop of a turban. :P

Here's a thought: the original guest list contained the name of someone that was known to be a troublemaker, or even someone on a Barwatch list (whether one of the people on the list was the actual person, or just someone with the same name), and was thus rejected. Maybe the bar manager recognized one of the names as an asshat who was banging his girlfriend. There are lots of reasons a group could be denied besides them just having "Asian-sounding names".

Naturally when they submitted a different list with made-up names, it wouldn't be an issue.

So then they get in the club under the fake names, one guy goes out and can't get back in... what do you think are the chances dude would make up the bouncer story to help back up their other claim... or just out of spite?

Not much of a stretch, for me...

Soundy 04-06-2011 01:30 PM

Interesting thing though, they were talking about this on Bill Good this morning... one woman called in and noted how she and her husband saw the same thing happen when they went to a Chinese restaurant in Richmond and watched a number of Asians walk in the door and get seated while they were waiting in the lobby for a half hour... then waited another half-hour before getting service. So it goes both ways.

kyoshiro 04-06-2011 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Soundy (Post 7378311)
Interesting thing though, they were talking about this on Bill Good this morning... one woman called in and noted how she and her husband saw the same thing happen when they went to a Chinese restaurant in Richmond and watched a number of Asians walk in the door and get seated while they were waiting in the lobby for a half hour... then waited another half-hour before getting service. So it goes both ways.

well it could be quite possible that there was either a banquet/event going on or reserved table. something we see very often at Chinese restaurants. Chinese restaurants also don't come over and ask what you want until you tell em to come over to take your order.
Differences in operations due to difference in culture => racial profiling = nono

EmperorIS 04-06-2011 01:43 PM

i work around these areas during late club nights .. and from my experience about 90% of the time its a group of brown males either being destructive
its like they are scared no one knows they are out for the night and they are making every effort to get attention and trying to flex their gangsterness

winson604 04-06-2011 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Soundy (Post 7378311)
Interesting thing though, they were talking about this on Bill Good this morning... one woman called in and noted how she and her husband saw the same thing happen when they went to a Chinese restaurant in Richmond and watched a number of Asians walk in the door and get seated while they were waiting in the lobby for a half hour... then waited another half-hour before getting service. So it goes both ways.

I have often gotten the eye from other chinese people when I walk right in and get a table. Little do they know I had a reservation. The point is like some have mentioned the whole story isn't what it always appears to be. Believe what you will but I highly suspect like others that there's tons of information missing from this story, Typical media though excluding things to make it appear like it's something else. Bastards.

Harvey Specter 04-06-2011 02:03 PM

It's a known fact that some bars/clubs in downtown don't allow brown guys unless you're in a mixed group or with a girl. I've also heard from friends that some restaurants in Yaletown deny entry to brown guys.

Meowjin 04-06-2011 02:12 PM

I know everyone wants to say something, but are being held back because they dont want to be considered racist.

They wern't let in not because they were brown... they probably showed up, thugged out acting really really rowdy, not acting polite, demanding things and getting aggressive.

I feel bad, because I have some EI friends that have difficulty getting into clubs, because they are genuine and nice. But I have some that fit the stereotype of getting way to drunk and aggressive and I'd never head out with them.

taylor192 04-06-2011 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by van_driver (Post 7378245)
by your logic, icbc should stop letting clais get driving licenses... They'd just be "doing there job" right?
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I'm actually OK with that. :whistle:

Harvey Specter 04-06-2011 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MajinHurricane (Post 7378377)
They wern't let in not because they were brown... they probably showed up, thugged out acting really really rowdy, not acting polite, demanding things and getting aggressive.

+111111

Bingo.

dhari 04-06-2011 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Soundy (Post 7378309)

Love how people pull out the race card at the drop of a turban. :P

no need to say that. that is a symbol of a religion(no, not my religion but i respect all). you are entitled to your opinion but no need to joke in that manner

bloodmack 04-06-2011 02:55 PM

I think the fact that EVERY brown guy gets generalized into 1 category is the problem here. I am EI and I can assure you I am NOTHING like your typical young EI.

Ch28 04-06-2011 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dhari (Post 7378416)
no need to say that. that is a symbol of a religion(no, not my religion but i respect all). you are entitled to your opinion but no need to joke in that manner

http://i.imgur.com/8Kp7I.jpg

moomooCow 04-06-2011 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by taylor192 (Post 7378389)
I'm actually OK with that. :whistle:

And all the white people will be OK with not allowing any Chinese people get their license because the stereotype is that Chinese drivers are shitty. They don't know how to discern the difference between C-Lai's and just general Chinese people.

:whistle:

El Bastardo 04-06-2011 03:43 PM

No business wants to turn down money in their pocket. Every business wants to turn down trouble in their establishment.

I really think theres far more to this story than meets the eye


Edit: Also, anyone who works as a security professional knows that bouncers keep detailed notebooks so I'm certain they'll be submitting them as proof there was a -legitimate- reason for denying re-entry

MR_BIGGS 04-06-2011 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bloodmack (Post 7378419)
I think the fact that EVERY brown guy gets generalized into 1 category is the problem here. I am EI and I can assure you I am NOTHING like your typical young EI.

Your very statement is an insinuation that generalizes brown people. By saying that YOU are not like the typical young EI, YOU are making the generalization and putting all of them into one category. Just saying..
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