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spideyv2 04-23-2011 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhall (Post 7403677)
"learn the word terrorist"? LOL I know the word, we all became very familiar with it on in september of 2011. I find it hilarious that some one can consider a video game hacker a terrorist. Addicted much?? Get a life and go outside or something people!!

Yeah bro, it was definitely on in 2011 and not 2001 right?

But yeah, i agree with everything else you said. Some people take gaming WAY too far..especially those World of Warcraft and Runescape heads. Shit is mad pathetic.

Jet 04-23-2011 02:22 PM

I haven't used my PS3 in a while and the only time I pop in a game and wanted to play I get this PSN is currently unavailable, talk about bad timing, oh well, I can see why people are annoyed with Sony ... I do like how the PS3 is more of a complete media system but by the sounds of it, Sony is tightening the functionality of the system and that isn't very good

Soundy 04-23-2011 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 7403747)
They are creating fear for Sony, the fear of financial loss.

But the INTENT is not to create fear - it's to give Sony a big FUCK YOU.

SkinnyPupp 04-23-2011 05:52 PM

Terrorism is coercion by intimidation. It doesn't HAVE to be political or religious. The word wasn't invented on 9/11, there were terrorists before, and terrorists after. It may not be political, but it's still terrorism.

Sony doesn't owe anyone anything. If you don't like that you can't hack or pirate on your PS3, sell it and play something else. That's all there is to it, really.

Jayhall 04-23-2011 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 7404131)
Terrorism is coercion by intimidation. It doesn't HAVE to be political or religious. The word wasn't invented on 9/11, there were terrorists before, and terrorists after. It may not be political, but it's still terrorism.

Sony doesn't owe anyone anything. If you don't like that you can't hack or pirate on your PS3, sell it and play something else. That's all there is to it, really.

"There is no universally agreed, legally binding, criminal law definition of terrorism. Common definitions of terrorism refer only to those violent acts which are intended to create fear (terror), are perpetrated for a religious, political or ideological goal, deliberately target or disregard the safety of non-combatants (civilians), and are committed by non-government agencies."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism

Anyone who thinks that they should be allowed to pirate games, movies, music, basicly anything should be allowed to do so freely, just so long as they go to work 40 hours a week and receive no compensation for it. I fully agree if you dont like what sony has done play something else. If nothing else tickles your fancy get smart and invent something then.

And yes I understand that the word terrorism wasnt invented on 9/11, hence why I said "we all became very familiar with it on in " that date. I was fairly young and my world didnt exactly include anything but hockey and lego at that point in my life.

Soundy 04-23-2011 07:49 PM

Pirating games (or anything else) may be considered theft, piracy, fraud, or any number of other things... but it's NOT terrorism by any stretch. Hacking of this sort may be considered fraud or vandalism, but it likewise is NOT terrorism by any *normal* definition of the term (despite attempts by some to expand it to cover everything down to the truly innocuous).

Remember, the root of the word is TERROR. There is no TERROR involved here, intended or not.

As for Sony, there is a strong argument that THEIR actions are anything from simply idiotic, to outright fraud. Some people bought their product based on claims of certain functionality. That functionality was later taken away arbitrarily, in some cases without warning - it would be like Nissan sending guys around to your house in the night to rip the engine out of your GT-R and replace it with a lawnmower engine. Sure, you now have the option to not drive that car anymore... or sell it and buy a Mustang... but that's not really the point, is it?

Jayhall 04-23-2011 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 7404301)
So your argument is that you're an ignorant child who uses wikipedia to define terms?

k

LOL, Seriously?? Thats YOUR argument?? All Im trying to say is that if you think hacking a video game server is terrorism, you should put down your bong and your ps3 controler and get yourself a reality check. K? Im just glad I "know the word terrorism" now. If it matters, I use google. Just happened to be the first result was on wiki

nice edit btw ;) takes a lot more than that to hurt my feelings

SkinnyPupp 04-23-2011 08:47 PM

I took back what I said.. so essentially you are arguing with no one. Enjoy

Jayhall 04-23-2011 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 7404318)
I took back what I said.. so essentially you are arguing with no one. Enjoy

Its not the first time, and probably wont be the last. Why'd you take it back?? Was it ignorant and childish?? Or just hypocritical?? Like I said, dont be afraid to hurt my feelings Im a grown up I can take it :D Besides I wasnt trying to make an argument

spades 04-23-2011 09:03 PM

Since pirating got brought up, thought this was hilarious http://www.cracked.com/article_19162...h-pirates.html make sure to read #3 and #1

edit: http://www.cracked.com/article_16330...ewing-you.html

SkinnyPupp 04-23-2011 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by spades (Post 7404333)
Since pirating got brought up, thought this was hilarious http://www.cracked.com/article_19162...h-pirates.html make sure to read #3 and #1

Just read that.. so much win :fullofwin:

Jayhall 04-23-2011 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 7404344)
Just read that.. so much win :fullofwin:

word. im glad that companys have found a way to do awesome things like this

le fu 04-24-2011 12:49 PM

So much misinformation. PSN being down right now has NOTHING to do with anonymous. That is an awful article in the OP.

Jayhall 04-24-2011 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by le fu (Post 7405048)
So much misinformation. PSN being down right now has NOTHING to do with anonymous. That is an awful article in the OP.

You discredit the OP but offer no anwsers yourself

bloodmack 04-24-2011 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spades (Post 7404333)
Since pirating got brought up, thought this was hilarious http://www.cracked.com/article_19162...h-pirates.html make sure to read #3 and #1

edit: http://www.cracked.com/article_16330...ewing-you.html

hilarious stuff, but I got some of those games and never had a problem with them..

Prolowtone 04-24-2011 01:49 PM

I have to laugh tho at all those people that are going on about wanting free games for all this downtime bla bla bla. It a free service! so wtf are you losing out on that you want repayment for? People need lives.

I never used the linux part of the ps3 but many of my friends did, and i agree that it is bull that they took a part of the system away, software that we BOUGHT with the system.

twitchyzero 04-24-2011 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by le fu (Post 7405048)
So much misinformation. PSN being down right now has NOTHING to do with anonymous. That is an awful article in the OP.

i dont know man, external intrusion doesn't sound like they were hacked...
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/...city-services/

le fu 04-24-2011 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 7406172)
i dont know man, external intrusion doesn't sound like they were hacked...
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/...city-services/

When did I say they weren't hacked you idiot? I said anonymous has nothing to do with this. Since you're so incapable of finding information for yourself, the reason they shut down PSN was because people on an unnamed forum were able to use the PS3 CFW to get into "dev tools" and basically add unlimited funds to their PSN accounts.

Jayhall 04-24-2011 07:47 PM

^^how do we know you are not full of shit?? Provide us with some info that isnt from your "all knowing" brain. (aka imagination) Until then you sir, are the idiot

JSS 04-24-2011 09:15 PM

ive been sitting here reading this thread the last couple days and thought this was all silly.
today was the first time ive tried using my ps3 since this whole thing went down...
trying to watch a movie via USB and that stupid cinavia turns the audio off and says the content being played is protected.

i agree with jd13, half the reason i bought my ps3 was for media playback capabilities... now that this garbage has been implemented i think im gonna have to get my xbox fixed for the 3rd time... im glad sony got hacked, if i cant somehow bypass this cinavia garbage they have lost a customer.

DanHibiki 04-24-2011 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Prolowtone (Post 7405119)
I have to laugh tho at all those people that are going on about wanting free games for all this downtime bla bla bla. It a free service! so wtf are you losing out on that you want repayment for? People need lives.

I never used the linux part of the ps3 but many of my friends did, and i agree that it is bull that they took a part of the system away, software that we BOUGHT with the system.

Not if you paid for psn+

Manic! 04-24-2011 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Prolowtone (Post 7405119)
I have to laugh tho at all those people that are going on about wanting free games for all this downtime bla bla bla. It a free service! so wtf are you losing out on that you want repayment for? People need lives.

I never used the linux part of the ps3 but many of my friends did, and i agree that it is bull that they took a part of the system away, software that we BOUGHT with the system.

Is it really free or is it just part the cost when you by a PS3.

Imagine you bought a Garmin GPS unit and the next day the US government turned off all it's GPS satellites. Who would you blame?

CP.AR 04-25-2011 01:33 PM

i think the OtherOS feature removal pissed off the more "techy" community off more than anything.

Stupid idea on Sony's behalf.
They could have just reinforced the barrier between the OtherOS and the regular system. If they did that I'd still be a happy camper playing Super Mario World and Donkey Kong Country on my TV

SkinnyPupp 04-25-2011 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Picard (Post 7407227)
i think the OtherOS feature removal pissed off the more "techy" community off more than anything.

Stupid idea on Sony's behalf.
They could have just reinforced the barrier between the OtherOS and the regular system. If they did that I'd still be a happy camper playing Super Mario World and Donkey Kong Country on my TV

If hackers hadn't exploited OtherOS to pirate games, it would still be there right now.

Soundy 04-25-2011 07:05 PM

The thing these companies never seem to learn is that the hackers will ALWAYS find a way around their measures - all they gain with this BS is making life more difficult for the other 98% of their legitimate, everyday-joe customers.


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