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RouRK 05-12-2011 05:01 PM

The Conservatives Commitment to Internet Surveillance
 
http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/5733/125/

worth a read.

TheKingdom2000 05-12-2011 05:06 PM

coles?

melloman 05-16-2011 07:41 AM

Coles:

Conservatives wanted to pass law for "Internet surveillance"

This means that: Internet providers MUST disclose a users full information to police. Before it was "voluntary" for providers to produce this information.

Second: Providers must re-work their systems for REAL-TIME surveillance. And because of this, means the providers will have to upgrade their systems, and will need more money to do this, meaning we "the public" front the fucking bill.

Third: Police can get a "preservation order" that tells the provider to "hold" the users information (specific communications or transmission data) for 90 days.

ie. The gov't is going to have the ability to watch EVERYTHING you do on the Internet.. So if your watching some weird kinky pron.. the gov't will know. :fullofwin:

IMHO I think this is bullshit, just another way the gov't and police are taking away all those "Rights & Freedoms" us Canadians are "supposed" to have.

mb_ 05-16-2011 08:13 AM

I'm all for "surveillance" for people and cases under investigation (the guy who crashed his BMW into a light post is a good example LOLOLOL) but this is just excessive. They might as well just install cameras in our bathrooms if this law ever gets put into effect.

orange7 05-16-2011 08:21 AM

coles on the coles?

murd0c 05-16-2011 08:29 AM

The goverment wants to have free rain to look at what we look at and download on the net.

orange7 05-16-2011 08:54 AM

^

no to that idea.

it will be weird to know that the government will know which porn I fapped to.

TheNewGirl 05-16-2011 10:04 AM

More over the government and police will have a full history of all the porn you've ever looked at. And if some chick ever accuses you of assulting her, they can dig into it and use that visit to kink.com as evidence towards your sadistic tendancies and to sway the jury think of you as a depraved woman hater.

Go internet go.

:(

Who said when you sell your freedom for security you lose both?

FiveDime 05-16-2011 10:53 AM

https://www.pirateparty.ca/uncategor...ecure-browsing

TheNewGirl 05-16-2011 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FiveDime (Post 7435662)

$10 a month for 200GB is not bad at all...

flagella 05-16-2011 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orange7 (Post 7435548)
^

no to that idea.

it will be weird to know that the government will know which porn I fapped to.

gay midget porn?

AutozamAZ-3 05-16-2011 12:18 PM

will proxies by pass this?

BNR32_Coupe 05-16-2011 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AutozamAZ-3 (Post 7435753)
will proxies by pass this?

if the proxy is located remotely from canada. since US and canada work together on these types of things, your best bet is to use a proxy from like china or some third world country

TheNewGirl 05-16-2011 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BNR32_Coupe (Post 7435768)
if the proxy is located remotely from canada. since US and canada work together on these types of things, your best bet is to use a proxy from like china or some third world country

But keep in mind, if you use a proxy in a third world or conflict country you may very well get tracked as a security concern.

willystyle 05-16-2011 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheNewGirl (Post 7435773)
But keep in mind, if you use a proxy in a third world or conflict country you may very well get tracked as a security concern.

Also, your internet connection will be slow as a snail.

TheNewGirl 05-16-2011 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willystyle (Post 7435812)
Also, your internet connection will be slow as a snail.

Totally.

Also China blocks a lot of shit.

murd0c 05-16-2011 01:45 PM

Use the tor browser if you are so worried.
Posted via RS Mobile

bloodmack 05-16-2011 02:55 PM

This is so stupid, the internet shouldn't even be touched by gov't in the first place. Next thing you know they'll create an ICBC type of ISP and we'll all be fucked.

Edit: Has this bill even had any hint of being around since they got their majority?

dangonay 05-16-2011 03:20 PM

^ That's funny. When certain government parties were talking about banning usage based billing then people on RS were rejoicing, many even saying they'd vote for said party on this issue alone.

Pirate Party is the biggest pile of shitheads around. Clearly not one of them has ever been involved in the creation of something unique. They want to ban patents on software, for example. Absolutely ridiculous idea.

Their proposed changes to copyright law are also asinine. Seriously, only commercial copying would be illegal?

Their name is fitting, since only some freeloading thief would consider their policies to be fair and just.

StylinRed 05-16-2011 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dangonay (Post 7435909)
^ That's funny. When certain government parties were talking about banning usage based billing then people on RS were rejoicing, many even saying they'd vote for said party on this issue alone.

Pirate Party is the biggest pile of shitheads around. Clearly not one of them has ever been involved in the creation of something unique. They want to ban patents on software, for example. Absolutely ridiculous idea.

Their proposed changes to copyright law are also asinine. Seriously, only commercial copying would be illegal?

Their name is fitting, since only some freeloading thief would consider their policies to be fair and just.

copyrights, trademarks, patents, hinder innovation imo; whether they are fair or not is another matter


RouRK 05-16-2011 03:52 PM

The conservative government has vowed to push this bill through in the first 100 days of their majority government. There has been no or little discussion or opposition to this bill.

Your freedom is being taken away from you, for what reason?

StylinRed 05-16-2011 04:15 PM

i cant believe the Fox News Republicans got a majority i mean the conservatives

BNR32_Coupe 05-16-2011 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheNewGirl (Post 7435773)
But keep in mind, if you use a proxy in a third world or conflict country you may very well get tracked as a security concern.

Quote:

Originally Posted by willystyle (Post 7435812)
Also, your internet connection will be slow as a snail.


double teamed once again... (that's what she said)

drunkrussian 05-16-2011 06:28 PM

it sounds like this won't affect any of us, except those of you watching 12 year old porno, or stealing people's credit cards on the internet?

willystyle 05-16-2011 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BNR32_Coupe (Post 7436118)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFcqG...eature=related

double teamed once again... (that's what she said)

Are you implying that oversea proxy's don't slow your internet connection? Otherwise, I don't know where you're coming from with that idiotic response.

Quote:

Originally Posted by drunkrussian (Post 7436143)
it sounds like this won't affect any of us, except those of you watching 12 year old porno, or stealing people's credit cards on the internet?

Yes, this policy may now only be for legitimate criminal investigations; however, allowing a bill like this to pass, may open doors for similar laws in the future to further monitor and restrict our access on the Internet - then what?

There is already similar talks in the US to further censor the internet, and to allow the US federal government to switch off the Internet, upon command.

You can't honestly tell me that you don't see anything wrong with that.


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