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So was I when some clown played this with me. The longest the guy spent in a cell was about an hour. I guess it took them that long to figure out that two could play the game...
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Originally Posted by CA_FTW
What if you dont have any ID on you.. and then give them a Fake Name.
I have always wondered what would happen.. How can they give you a ticket if they dont know who you are..
This is an honest question.. what does transit authory do in this situation?
I had a friend that got caught, said she didn't have ID on her and just gave a fake name / address and received the ticket. She just went on her way out of the skytrain station and threw the ticket away at the nearest garbage can =/
Pretty sure she just got lucky with a lazy officer tho :P I wouldn't recommend trying that LOL
and @ OP, just pay the ticket.. and hope it reminds you not to "forget" next time :P
If they can't positively identify you the criminal code permits them to hold you until identity is established. How can they release you under a PTA, app. notice, to be summonsed later etc if they don't know who you are ?
My question still stands.. what if i was fine with waiting it out..
Can they hold me indefinitely, since im refusing to give up my ID?
Or would i just get thrown in Jail as John Doe. But that doesn't give me the right to a fair and reasonable trial..
You would be held in custody and charged with obstruction under the Criminal Code. Your fingerprints would be taken and compared to fingerprints of people previously convicted of offences. If you had no criminal record that would allow a fingerprint match and you hadn't identified yourself by the next morning (or Monday morning if it was a weekend) you would appear in court before a judge for a bail hearing where the judge would decide if he should release you. One of the factors a judge considers in giving a person bail is if the identity of the accused has been established, so I highly doubt you would be released if you are still refusing to provide your identity.
Beyond that, I have never seen it come to this because people generally identify themselves before it gets to this, I would assume possibly DNA testing or even releasing your photo in the paper in hopes of identifying you.
any one got caught and disputed it and won?
I got caught recently and have not done anything with it yet. I was caught by new westminister station. Said I bought a ticket and lost it. They don't have proof of me.. Any ideas on how to dispute and any stories of you winning or losing? Posted via RS Mobile
My friend lost his tix, got checked, transit cop came, ran his name and he must had a problem with his check coz the vancouver cops came too. I suggest... pay the ticket, dispute it if you can but do not ignore. Always pay with credit card on the ticket machine so you have paper work!
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Hmm interesting for sure.. so you would get held indefinitely until then could prove who you were. all that for a not paying a skytrain ticket.. at least you could get free meals out of that.. if i were homeless thats what i would do..
I ran into a few people over the years that used to do just that, usually older alcoholics. They would do some property crime to get arrested so they could spend the cold winter months inside. The legal system screwed them though...these days it can take up to 2 years to get a first appearance where you can plead guilty so you have to backtime your crime to get B&B from Her Majesty. Pretty difficult to do through an alcoholic haze.
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