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PornMaster 09-11-2011 11:34 AM

I am talking about the hockey series not NBA

PhilosophyMajor 09-11-2011 11:44 AM

Dude, my post specifically said NBA 2k.

Anyways, I have only had NHL 12 for 2 days. Will play some more but so far this is definitely not worth full retail if you already have 11.

PornMaster 09-11-2011 12:07 PM

go play some basketball you don't seem to be a hockey fan

Jmac 09-11-2011 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhilosophyMajor (Post 7574667)
If you think NBA 2k11 sucked then you need help.

There's nothing to talk about in gameplay because it's nearly the exact same game (which I have no problem with). But NHL 12's "gameplay tweaks" themselves are not worth another $60. They already have the core gameplay down so they should be adding depth to the modes. Be A GM Mode is still stupid as hell and is literally untouched. Instead of improving things that need improving (LIKE PRESENTATION/DEPTH) they add stupid gimmicks like checking people through glass (does that even happen in real life anymore?). Winter Classic was a waste of time adding. Who's ever going to play this after trying it once?

BAGM is hardly untouched ... More frequent and accurate injuries, ability to resign players mid-season, improved trade AI, completely reworked simulation engine, etc.

PornMaster 09-11-2011 01:02 PM

PhilosophyMajor doesn't know the difference between presentation and depth

DanHibiki 09-11-2011 01:04 PM

The 2k hockey series was way better than the EA series until NHL 08. Although EA made the jump to "next-gen" in 07, it wasn't until 08 that the game felt much more complete. I tried 07 and it felt like it was a game in it's alpha stages of development and it's great graphics was not enough to lure me away from 2k.

NHL 08 was such a big impact that they even had a little segment on the 2k vs EA hockey series on Sportsnet.

Before NHL 08, NHL 2004 was the only other good EA NHL game (not including those old school 2D sprites ones).

jello24 09-11-2011 01:38 PM

where did some people get their NHL 12 early? wanna share so i can drop by them today and grab it... i really wanna body check timmay to the ice right now.

BlackZRoadster 09-11-2011 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhilosophyMajor (Post 7574667)
If you think NBA 2k11 sucked then you need help.

There's nothing to talk about in gameplay because it's nearly the exact same game (which I have no problem with). But NHL 12's "gameplay tweaks" themselves are not worth another $60. They already have the core gameplay down so they should be adding depth to the modes. Be A GM Mode is still stupid as hell and is literally untouched. Instead of improving things that need improving (LIKE PRESENTATION/DEPTH) they add stupid gimmicks like checking people through glass (does that even happen in real life anymore?). Winter Classic was a waste of time adding. Who's ever going to play this after trying it once?

It's okay if you don't see value in it. They will still sell like hotcakes. Think of the 60 bucks as a subscription to play nhl for one year
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rice cooker 09-11-2011 05:00 PM

nhl hitz was the most fun hockey game ever

Tim Budong 09-11-2011 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhilosophyMajor (Post 7574652)
I feel sorry for anyone paying $60 for this game. This is the most half-assed NHL game yet. The legends team isn't even interesting to play as at all. All they did was put whatever legends they could get then threw in players with the highest ratings to fill in the rest of the slots. Luongo backing up Patrick Roy = lulz. NBA 2k does it a million times better by putting in the ACTUAL classic teams.

I love how after a big hit or nice deke the commentators say "we'll all be watching that on the NHL network this week" then in the replay cutscene seconds later it'll just show some random hit. The hitting physics are screwed up NHL 12 EASHL Huge Hit - YouTubeNHL 12: Bouchard with a Huge Open Ice Hit on Vermette - YouTube Presentation is still complete garbage. Same lines. Same cutscenes you'll never want to watch. Same crappy replays that don't even show the play developing.

NBA 2k games shit all over EA's garbage. Too bad they can't make a good 2k hockey game.

Edit: seriously, just compare NBA 2k12's "be a player" mode compared to NHL https://www.facebook.com/note.php?no...50285386202267

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhilosophyMajor (Post 7574667)
If you think NBA 2k11 sucked then you need help.

There's nothing to talk about in gameplay because it's nearly the exact same game (which I have no problem with). But NHL 12's "gameplay tweaks" themselves are not worth another $60. They already have the core gameplay down so they should be adding depth to the modes. Be A GM Mode is still stupid as hell and is literally untouched. Instead of improving things that need improving (LIKE PRESENTATION/DEPTH) they add stupid gimmicks like checking people through glass (does that even happen in real life anymore?). Winter Classic was a waste of time adding. Who's ever going to play this after trying it once?

NBA2k11 was fantastic. WE FUCKING GET IT
thats a basketball game in which I love

NHL12 is a HOCKEY GAME...

ur comparing apples and oranges

NHL12 yes, albeit not a HUGE upgrade, but I'm playing the early release and I can already tell u that the new AI engine is a huge improvement over the stale plays. The skating is smoother, and the hitting a bit more realistic, no longer can St.Louis dish out huge hits. The battling in front of the net is a neat addition adding to the overall realism to the sport of hockey. You should think of these sports games as an added fun to the actual sport. Modes like the winterclassic only add to the experience of the game.

For one, when HockeyUltimateTeam was thrown into NHL11, I was happy. I can't wait to give the NHL12 HUT a go. Be A GM is better this time around. I have yet to try this mode.

Why else do people say that the replay value in the NHL series is so great?

The NBA2K series is fanfuckingtastic in its own godly ways. I would also like to say again, your comparing apples and oranges. U can also say that all games wil reach it's peak, before something new comes along. I would really like to hear ur comparison between NBA2k11 and NBA2k12 when the final product comes out.

why do u bother coming on here and rant, then give us a stupid argument.

As for players being put through glass. its very possible still.

van19 09-11-2011 08:21 PM

You can now make women players in NHL 12 ..

:fulloffuck:

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Starting this week, 14-year-old Lexi Peters will be stick handling past men twice her size as she plays in the starting lineup for the Buffalo Sabres. Or the Vancouver Canucks. Or any NHL team the 90-pound left-winger chooses.

Because when video game publisher Electronic Arts releases the latest edition of its popular NHL series on Tuesday, Lexi will be the first female in its virtual hockey roster.

Hockey is attracting more female players, but when young skaters like Lexi turned to the leading NHL video game, the custom player characters they could build in the game came with many different looks – so long as they were male.

“I asked my dad, ‘Why aren’t there girls in the NHL video game?’ And he said, ‘I don’t know, write a letter.’ So, I did,” Lexi told the Globe and Mail from her home in Buffalo, N.Y.

She sent a typewritten letter to the executives of one the largest video game makers in the world, asking them to add women players.

She wrote: “It is unfair to women and girl hockey players around the world, many of them who play and enjoy your game. I have created a character of myself, except I have to be represented by a male and that’s not fun.”

For those who have never tried the game, players can choose everything from their team and players to who controls the puck. They can also create characters of their own, picking hair and eye colours and other details. Those characters were all men.

“My younger brother got to create a character that looked just like him. I had never been able to experience that,” says Lexi.

The 4 foot 11 teen has played hockey for four years. She and a teammate spent hours creating a whole custom hockey team, modeling the players after their own all-girls team, the Purple Eagles. The best they could do was give the characters long “hockey” hair.

“We looked like men,” she says.

The first response she got back from Electronic Arts was disappointing. But she figured at least she’d tried.

“I heard back a few weeks later and they told me it couldn’t happen because it has to go through the NHL.”

What she didn’t know was that the president of EA Sports had forwarded her letter to David Littman, the lead producer of the company’s NHL game. His reaction was different.

“Lexi’s letter was a wake-up call,” Mr. Littman told the Globe and Mail. “Here’s a growing audience playing our NHL game and we hadn’t done anything to capture them.”

Mr. Littman then did some stick handling of his own: finding the budget to build her into the game, as well as getting permission from the NHL and EA’s legal department.

Then EA Sports gave Lexi the news. Not only were they adding a female character option, but they wanted Lexi to play the part of the “default” female player that gamers would then be able to customize.

“I was so excited,” says Lexi. “My dad called my grandpa immediately, who called my Uncle Chris, like a chain reaction.”

Users can tailor the female character by changing hair, eye colour and the name on the jersey if they want, just as with male players.

It is a sensible business move in a competitive video-game market that’s worth an estimated $20-billion worldwide. But it also marks the progress of female hockey players.

“It’s a big change and it’s exciting to see, because so many girls pay hockey now,” said Manon Rhéaume, the only woman to ever play in the real-world NHL.

Ms. Rhéaume was a goalie for the Tampa Bay Lightning in the 1992-93 season. She now runs a foundation that offers scholarships to young women in sports and promotes girls’ hockey.

“I think we’re at a place where women in hockey are more accepted. People are putting more money into girls’ hockey and the growth we’re seeing in the sport is mainly from girls, not boys.”

Hockey Canada, the national organization that oversees administration and development of the sport, has numbers that back that up. In 1990, there were about 5,000 women and girls playing the sport. Today, there are more than 100,000.

“The two gold medals in the past Olympics has been a huge factor,” says Francis Dupont, communications officer with Hockey Canada. “There’s been a lot more attention on women’s hockey media-wise in the past five to 10 years and more coaches and programs to grow the sport.”

Of course, NHL purists can still play the video game as men. But Lexi is hoping they give the women a chance. And that the boys at her school who don’t take girls’ hockey seriously change their minds.

The big question now: how will she choose who to play as? Herself, or her favourite NHL star, Alex Ovechkin?

“I’ll put us on the same team.”

PhilosophyMajor 09-11-2011 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darthchilli (Post 7575087)
The NBA2K series is fanfuckingtastic in its own godly ways. I would also like to say again, your comparing apples and oranges. U can also say that all games wil reach it's peak, before something new comes along. I would really like to hear ur comparison between NBA2k11 and NBA2k12 when the final product comes out.

why do u bother coming on here and rant, then give us a stupid argument

Yeah, your argument is so much better. They're different sports we can't expect NHL to be as good as NBA!

NHL 12 Thread Part III - Page 34 - HFBoards

Here's 40 pages of comments on this game for your reference.

PhilosophyMajor 09-11-2011 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 7574716)
BAGM is hardly untouched ... More frequent and accurate injuries, ability to resign players mid-season, improved trade AI, completely reworked simulation engine, etc.

I haven't played enough to comment on other stuff but right at the beginning of the season I did the following:

- Mason Raymond + upcoming 1st round pick for Keith Yandle
- Marco Sturm + Samuelsson (I think) for Brian Gionta
- Brian Gionta + next next 1st round pick for Corey Perry

ForbiddenX 09-11-2011 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhilosophyMajor (Post 7575354)
Yeah, your argument is so much better. They're different sports we can't expect NHL to be as good as NBA!

:fuckthatshit:

sonick 09-11-2011 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanHibiki (Post 7574744)
The 2k hockey series was way better than the EA series until NHL 08. Although EA made the jump to "next-gen" in 07, it wasn't until 08 that the game felt much more complete. I tried 07 and it felt like it was a game in it's alpha stages of development and it's great graphics was not enough to lure me away from 2k.

NHL 08 was such a big impact that they even had a little segment on the 2k vs EA hockey series on Sportsnet.

Before NHL 08, NHL 2004 was the only other good EA NHL game (not including those old school 2D sprites ones).

This. In the mid 2000's, EA's NHL series got complacent and didn't bother really improving the game year to year. NHL2k however did, and for a few years put out a much superb realistic hockey sim game compared to EA.

Realizing this, EA stepped it up with its new motion-stick gameplay (or whatever they call it) and basically blew NHL2k out of the water when it was introduced in 07/08.

NBA, MLB and NFL as well, gameplay wise the 2k sports was much better than their EA counterparts for simulation fans. I don't follow it much nowadays whether NBA or MLB is rated better than EA, but for NFL they were so concerned of losing ground on their highly lucrative Madden franchise, put out the dough to buy the exclusive video game rights from the NFL. Luckily the other leagues did not follow suit even though EA did offer the same type of deal.

DanHibiki 09-11-2011 11:55 PM

The only mode I care about is EASHL. I don't play games like I used to and now I all I want to play is coop/multiplayer games.

I play versus online here and there as well.

Happy 09-12-2011 03:23 PM

this guy goes off on some pretty true shit about nhl
has anyone bought this game yet?
hows HUT like? hows online versus like?

Tim Budong 09-12-2011 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy (Post 7575926)
this guy goes off on some pretty true shit about nhl
NHL 12 Demo Goalie Mode & Rant about "Glitches" - YouTube
has anyone bought this game yet?
hows HUT like? hows online versus like?

TRUTH.

the game is great i think.
its more refined! but the anticipation AI leans heavy on offense compared to defense. so easy to overcome

PornMaster 09-12-2011 06:16 PM

Pre order just shipped from futureshop

gloors 09-13-2011 02:24 AM

So been playing NHL12 for about 2hrs now... and I must say I'm loving it so far. But already glitch goals have been found lol. Loving the new battle in front of the net feature <3333333

DanHibiki 09-13-2011 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gloors (Post 7576498)
So been playing NHL12 for about 2hrs now... and I must say I'm loving it so far. But already glitch goals have been found lol. Loving the new battle in front of the net feature <3333333

Guess I'll have to stick to playing defense on my EASHL team :(

Kilinim 09-13-2011 02:52 AM

Timmy T cheating down low :D
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shawn79 09-13-2011 02:53 AM

Won my copy of nhl11 from mcd monopoly last yr from a large fries and i only played it a few times.

Not into much details about this game besides the puck handling and shooting, same shit every yr just few tweaks

chipmunk604 09-13-2011 02:56 AM

http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/a...dbyburrows.jpg

:fullofwin:

cdizzle_996 09-13-2011 06:09 AM

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH BUDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDY


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