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Old 04-27-2012, 01:17 AM   #28826
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Does anyone think that the chances of getting a proper return on Luongo is hindered by the fact that the Flames can deal Kipper to any team thats willing after July1, yes Kipper is older, but contract wise, its "less risk"
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Does anyone think that the chances of getting a proper return on Luongo is hindered by the fact that the Flames can deal Kipper to any team thats willing after July1, yes Kipper is older, but contract wise, its "less risk"
Yes, and there are plenty of other good goalies out there too, and GM's potentially don't have to pay them for 5 years after they stop playing.

Kipper doesn't want to play in a big market though

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Tomas Vokoun, G, Washington
Age: 35
TSN.ca Rating: 73.49
Stats: 25-17-2, 2.51 GAA, .917 SV%, 48 GP
2011-2012 Cap Hit: $1.5M
Comments: Aside from November, played as expected, but injury limited his playing time late in the season.

Josh Harding, G, Minnesota
Age: 28
TSN.ca Rating: 72.34
Stats: 13-12-4, 2.62 GAa, .917 SV%, 34 GP
2011-2012 Cap Hit: $750K
Comments: Now that he's healthy, might get a chance to start somewhere else.

Martin Biron, G, N.Y. Rangers
Age: 34
TSN.ca Rating: 67.53
Stats: 12-6-2, 2.46 GAA, .904 SV%, 21 GP
2011-2012 Cap Hit: $875K
Comments: Not as good as he was in 2010-2011, but a fine option as a veteran backup.

Scott Clemmensen, G, Florida
Age: 34
TSN.ca Rating: 70.90
Stats: 14-6-6, 2.57 GAA, .913 SV%, 30 GP
2011-2012 Cap Hit: $1.2M
Comments: Solid in reserve role the last four seasons, should earn a couple more for team needing stability between the pipes.

Al Montoya, G, N.Y. Islanders
Age: 27
TSN.ca Rating: 55.48
Stats: 9-11-5, 3.10 GAA, .893 SV%, 31 GP
2011-2012 Cap Hit: $601K
Comments: Could be interesting in a backup role behind a better team.

Chris Mason, G, Winnipeg
Age: 35
TSN.ca Rating: 63.17
Stats: 8-7-1, 2.59 GAA, .898 SV%, 20 GP
2011-2012 Cap Hit: $1.15M
Comments: Had some good moments, still capable of fulfilling backup role.

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Age: 32
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Stats: 10-18-4, 2.60 GAA, .911 SV%, 36 GP
2011-2012 Cap Hit: $600K
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Jonas Gustavsson, G, Toronto
Age: 27
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Stats: 17-17-4, 2.92 GAA, .902 SV%, 42 GP
2011-2012 Cap Hit: $1.35M
Comments: Never lived up to the Monster hype, but had some decent moments; could be a solid backup.

Brent Johnson, G, Pittsburgh
Age: 35
TSN.ca Rating: 50.38
Stats: 6-7-2, 3.11 GAA, .883 SV%, 16 GP
2011-2012 Cap Hit: $600K
Comments: Struggled after several seasons of quality work in backup role.

Ty Conklin, G, Detroit
Age: 36
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Stats: 5-6-1, 3.28 GAA, .884 SV%, 15 GP
2011-2012 Cap Hit: $750K
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2011-2012 Cap Hit: $1.0M
Comments: No room in Ottawa; will he find another taker in the NHL?

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2011-2012 Cap Hit: $600,000
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Don't forget Tim Thomas might be available as well. Rask state during the season he was getting tired of being just a backup, so it'll be interesting to see what Boston does there.
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Yes, and there are plenty of other good goalies out there too, and GM's potentially don't have to pay them for 5 years after they stop playing.

Kipper doesn't want to play in a big market though

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TSN.ca Rating: 73.49
Stats: 25-17-2, 2.51 GAA, .917 SV%, 48 GP
2011-2012 Cap Hit: $1.5M
Comments: Aside from November, played as expected, but injury limited his playing time late in the season.

Josh Harding, G, Minnesota
Age: 28
TSN.ca Rating: 72.34
Stats: 13-12-4, 2.62 GAa, .917 SV%, 34 GP
2011-2012 Cap Hit: $750K
Comments: Now that he's healthy, might get a chance to start somewhere else.

Martin Biron, G, N.Y. Rangers
Age: 34
TSN.ca Rating: 67.53
Stats: 12-6-2, 2.46 GAA, .904 SV%, 21 GP
2011-2012 Cap Hit: $875K
Comments: Not as good as he was in 2010-2011, but a fine option as a veteran backup.

Scott Clemmensen, G, Florida
Age: 34
TSN.ca Rating: 70.90
Stats: 14-6-6, 2.57 GAA, .913 SV%, 30 GP
2011-2012 Cap Hit: $1.2M
Comments: Solid in reserve role the last four seasons, should earn a couple more for team needing stability between the pipes.

Al Montoya, G, N.Y. Islanders
Age: 27
TSN.ca Rating: 55.48
Stats: 9-11-5, 3.10 GAA, .893 SV%, 31 GP
2011-2012 Cap Hit: $601K
Comments: Could be interesting in a backup role behind a better team.

Chris Mason, G, Winnipeg
Age: 35
TSN.ca Rating: 63.17
Stats: 8-7-1, 2.59 GAA, .898 SV%, 20 GP
2011-2012 Cap Hit: $1.15M
Comments: Had some good moments, still capable of fulfilling backup role.

Curtis Sanford, G, Columbus
Age: 32
TSN.ca Rating: 69.45
Stats: 10-18-4, 2.60 GAA, .911 SV%, 36 GP
2011-2012 Cap Hit: $600K
Comments: First NHL action since 2008-2009 and was Blue Jackets' best netminder.

Jonas Gustavsson, G, Toronto
Age: 27
TSN.ca Rating: 61.85
Stats: 17-17-4, 2.92 GAA, .902 SV%, 42 GP
2011-2012 Cap Hit: $1.35M
Comments: Never lived up to the Monster hype, but had some decent moments; could be a solid backup.

Brent Johnson, G, Pittsburgh
Age: 35
TSN.ca Rating: 50.38
Stats: 6-7-2, 3.11 GAA, .883 SV%, 16 GP
2011-2012 Cap Hit: $600K
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TSN.ca Rating: 49.21
Stats: 5-6-1, 3.28 GAA, .884 SV%, 15 GP
2011-2012 Cap Hit: $750K
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Alex Auld, G, Ottawa
Age: 31
TSN.ca Rating: 48.46
Stats: 2-4-2, 3.35 GAA, .884 SV%
2011-2012 Cap Hit: $1.0M
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Marty Turco, G, Boston
Age: 36
TSN.ca Rating: 30.70
Stats: 2-2, 3.55 GAA, .868 SV%, 5 GP
2011-2012 Cap Hit: $600,000
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Age: 42
TSN.ca Rating: 46.39
Stats: 13-16-3, 3.66 GAA, .886 SV%, 40 GP
2011-2012 Cap Hit: $3.5M
Comments: It's been a long and productive career, but this past season wasn't one to remember.
I wouldn't sign any of these guys for a #1 goalie. They are ok but as most of their comments said... they are mainly good in a reserve/backup role.
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Thomas is a bum, couldn't even get past the first round.
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Does anyone think that the chances of getting a proper return on Luongo is hindered by the fact that the Flames can deal Kipper to any team thats willing after July1, yes Kipper is older, but contract wise, its "less risk"
Lu's contract still has the out clause in the 5th year. Since he's heading into the 3rd year, it's basically a 3 year commitment then management (and Lu) can decide if they want to change directions.
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Does anyone think that the chances of getting a proper return on Luongo is hindered by the fact that the Flames can deal Kipper to any team thats willing after July1, yes Kipper is older, but contract wise, its "less risk"
Kipper's actually a good goalie and I can't see calgary letting him go.

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I wouldn't sign any of these guys for a #1 goalie. They are ok but as most of their comments said... they are mainly good in a reserve/backup role.
Agree with Ken here except maybe Vokoun.
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Lu's contract still has the out clause in the 5th year. Since he's heading into the 3rd year, it's basically a 3 year commitment then management (and Lu) can decide if they want to change directions.
goalies, starters especially are normally not dealt. Once Luongo is moved, his NTC is gone.
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losings all the same...but have fun with your participation ribbon

but i guess you can count 1 win, as making the playoffs.....hell florida even put up more of a fight LOL
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Kipper is pretty much the only reason Calgary had a sniff of the playoffs this year. They were in contention because he posted a 2.35GAA and 35 wins despite Calgary being a terrible, terrible hockey team. Except for the wins, he was every bit as good as Pekka Rinne, stat-wise. If Calgary ditches him, it will be for full-on rebuild mode.

And none of those goalies are #1 goalies...they're all career backups. Remember what happened when Chris Mason got a #1 job as soon as he left Nashville? Al Montoya? CURTIS SANFORD!? Good teammates, mediocre goalies.

But then again, I'm sure most of us thought Mike Smith was done before he got to Phoenix and beastmoded that shit.

Either way, Lu or Schnoo will be the best option available for several teams. Remember Luongo's contract has an out clause...and big market teams don't really give a shit about salary or else someone would've assassinated Wade Redden by now.
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