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Old 04-26-2012, 12:13 AM   #28676
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Trading within the conference to a competitor would be shooting ourselves in the foot.

In terms of Toronto, all I would want is Gardiner or their 1st - neither are likely to happen.

Although I do love playoff hockey regardless of whether Vancouver is involved or not, I kind of just want them to be over now so we can see what happens with the Canucks hah.
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Holtby is a fun goalie to watch. He has all these random "rituals" during warmup and before faceoffs, and other stuff.
He would push players around in his crease, and not take crap from players. Sometimes, I wish we had a goalie that had that kind of attitude.

Luongo and Schneider are both too composed to play that kind of game though.
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Old 04-26-2012, 12:42 AM   #28678
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Old 04-26-2012, 12:58 AM   #28680
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The only reason I bring up SJ is because that's the only realistic Western team where he could go. He won't go to Columbus since he wants to win, all the other Central teams are covered for goaltending except maybe Chicago. Gillis won't want to face Lu 6 times a year so he won't be traded within the division, which leaves the Pacific and Phoenix, LA, Dallas and Anaheim seem more set than SJ.

SJ will be undergoing a change this off-season...they have to. Don't you think there's a possibility they could ship one of their forwards for Lu?

Lu will probably go East but there's always the possibility. In order of likelihood, I'd say Tampa, Florida, NJ, Toronto, Washington, SJ, NYI.
but trading for Lu would seem pretty backwards to me, like I've said before I get that lu is better than Niemi. But Niemi's stock is as low as its ever going to be, they won't net anything decent trading him right now and imho niemi's poor statistics was more a reflection of how poor our pk was and even with that said they were quite similar to Luongos, then you trade a pavelski/clowe + pick for luongo? just filling a hole by creating another imo. The cost just would be too much for a sharks team with no prospects with the ability to replicate what a pavelski/clowe/marleau could bring to the table and that would be the MINIMUM for lu. And no please don't give us Mason Raymond for our top 6 replacement
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Jersey is a longshot given their financial situation, and their penalty on the Kovalchuk contract debacle
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“@RealKyper: #SNPlayoffs #Canucks Luongo asks for trade. Van didn't even need to ask him to waive NTC. He tells them himself in exit meeting he wants out”
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So now that it's a sure thing, I wonder what they will get back? Usually when a guy REQUESTS a trade, they don't have much leverage. And it's not like they can change their minds now, and ship Schneider for more in return

So from Florida, Tampa, or Toronto, who would you want?
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Wow... wtf..
So now Lu is actually asking for a trade??
Couldn't he have kept that within the organization so that other teams don't know about it.

At least then MG would have more leverage if other teams didn't know Canucks can't really keep him.
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I'll believe it when I hear it from someone credible. Kypreos
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No team is going to give the Canucks a bonafide #1 D man in return for Lu like some are hoping and I don't really see key pieces that Toronto, Tampa or Florida would be willing to give up. I think what you're looking at in return from those teams are young projects and depth guys like L. Schenn and B. Connolly.

Ideally for the Canucks, Florida I think would make the best trading partner out of those likely teams on Lu's list, I would target guys like Upshall, Versteeg or Fleischmann depth guys who can score & play gritty and help now, not 5 years down the road. If you can get a young D man out of them in a package too like Gudbranson even better.
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what a dick move on luongos behalf if the story is true
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Any nonplayoff team would definitely want Lu. I mean, all they want is to make the playoffs and good chance of that happening with Lu in net. Once in the playoffs, anything CAN happen just like how the playoffs this year where it's pretty much "upsets"
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what a dick move on luongos behalf if the story is true
Why would it be a dick move? It was clear with that AV and Gillis were moving ahead with Schneids and giving him the net. We have no idea if it was Lu or his camp who leaked the trade request to Kypreos, it could easily have been someone within the Canucks administration whos tight with Kypreos
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Plus, I think it's a good move for Lu to get the heck out of Vancouver IMO. If we kept him and traded schneider.. the entire city would be on his back every single game... the guy just need a fresh start elsewhere.

I just hope the city doesnt give schneider a hard time either after he lets in a few soft goals here and there..
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what a dick move on luongos behalf if the story is true
Imo absolutely the right move for someone who wants to win. Why would he want to weaken his new team and give the canucks a fair trade? Especially the way he was treated here ...
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Wow ..... Lu actually did that?

Hope schneids can handle being van's starter

It's gna be a major mental fuck for him, but I have full confidence in him. He's proved it.
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According to TSN's James Duthie, sources say that Roberto Luongo will submit a list of teams to the Vancouver Canuncks that he would be willing to accept a trade to.
The Toronto Maple Leafs will reportedly be on that list and the move would make sense, but that doesn't guarantee that it will get done. The Leafs desperately need help between the pipes, they can afford his huge contract and they have personnel on the management end that know him in the form of former Canucks GM Dave Nonis and goaltending coach Francois Allaire.

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No, a dick move would be if Lu refuses to waive his NTC (and he didn't have to) and the Canucks are stuck with a disgruntled goalie for the next 10 years who's not trying his best every night.
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Why would it be a dick move? It was clear with that AV and Gillis were moving ahead with Schneids and giving him the net. We have no idea if it was Lu or his camp who leaked the trade request to Kypreos, it could easily have been someone within the Canucks administration whos tight with Kypreos
I don't think it's a dick move so much as not as 'classy' as he has been since game 3. Instead of "not standing in their way" he is "asking to be moved" which might mean 2 different types of offers coming back for him.

It was 99% guaranteed that he is no longer the #1 goalie after not getting the call for game 4. But it's better to leave it ambiguous than to put it right out there like that, coming from HIS side instead of the team's side.
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