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Old 11-28-2011, 11:53 PM   #10176
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Come to think of it, Bowman (CHI GM) should have been fired but has a bunch of staffs who suck up to his daddy scotty. That newb ass had a team built for him as a dynasty and he forgets to resign the key compents of the team. Given the players default salary. After they won the stanley cup they lose their chance of being the first salary cap dynasty (Byfuglien, Ladd, Versteeg, Niemi, Bouwer, Bickell, Fraser, Barker)

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personally i see nsh as a good trading partner.. ellis, blum, weber, suter no room for them all. weber and suter have #1 capabiltiy. ellis and blum are going to be great offensive dmen. the lack offensive prospects while we have no room for ours
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personally i see nsh as a good trading partner.. ellis, blum, weber, suter no room for them all. weber and suter have #1 capabiltiy. ellis and blum are going to be great offensive dmen. the lack offensive prospects while we have no room for ours
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like i said earlier you dont have to trade the goalie to them, you can trade the goalie for a prospect and then deal it to nash. 3way deal
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like i said earlier you dont have to trade the goalie to them, you can trade the goalie for a prospect and then deal it to nash. 3way deal
too much FANTASY trades going on in here

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i honestly wonder why so many people don't realize it's "re-sign" not "resign". i know it's not a huge deal but it just irritates me.
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i honestly wonder why so many people don't realize it's "re-sign" not "resign". i know it's not a huge deal but it just irritates me.
I believe we should have resigned Ehrhoff last summer

It irritated me as fuck last season when people spelt "Ehrhoff" = "Erhoff"
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Pavel Bure and then Russian President Vladimir Putin in 2001

Editors Note: Last week, the legendary former Canucks forward, Pavel Bure, stepped onto the ice for the first time in many years. He took part in an "old-timers friendly" alongside with other former Russian superstars and (surprise-surprise!) Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin. After the game he chatted with the media about making it into the Hall of Fame, about Ovechkin's regression, about his future in hockey and the Russian National Team. The original text for this interview comes from$Igor Rabiner of Sport-Express$and has been translated for our benefit by Andrey Osadchenko

Igor Rabiner: Is it true that, that your first hockey game in years?

Pavel Bure: It is. Itís not like I live in the past and go deep into it often, but I donít recall a single time I've played hockey since I retired. Frankly, I did it out of respect for Vladimir Putin. Certainly, I was pleased to see the guys Iíve played with for many years, but if it wasnít for the prime- minister, I donít think anybody would have been able to convince me lace them up and step on the ice.

Itís all about respect really. Itís impressive when a guy who never skated or played hockey makes such a progress in 8-9 months. Not many people can do that, especially at such an age. Hockey is a complicated game Ė you have to be able to both skate and handle the puck. Besides, if youíre not used to this, even wearing shin pads and other stuff can be uncomfortable.

Rabiner: How many goals did Putin score?

Bure: Maybe 3 or 4 goals? Certainly, more than I did (laughs). He said he set a goal for himself Ė to learn how to play hockey. Heís doing step by step. He said he hoped that all of us achieve our own goals. I can relate to that. I have a similar philosophy. What also makes me happy is that, back in the day, the number one sport in our country seemed to be tennis, today, I think, itís hockey.


Vladimir Putin (front) and Pavel Bure (to his right) take the ice together last week.

Rabiner: When you read in newspapers that Sergei Fedorov scored another goal for Metallurg Magnitogorsk, do you get jealous? Do you think that if it wasnít for the injuries youíd still play pro hockey?

Bure: No. I donít think Iíd be able to play nowadays. Moreover Ė I donít think Iíd want to.$Iíve had enough and I barely even wanted to be on the ice today. If Iím needed to help create hype around hockey, make others, especially kids, want to play hockey because of my example, then sure, Iíll play hockey just like I did last Friday. But Iím not going to do it for myself.

Rabiner: Donít you ever miss the game?

Bure: Not yet. I empathize the Ďyetí part. I never say never. Maybe in a year or a decade Iíll be missing it, who knows?

Rabiner: You were a terrific hockey player who has every right to be included in the Hockey Hall Of Fame. However, it hasnít happened...

Bure: I achieved in hockey everything I could. I have no control over what happens next. Itís a subjective decision. Itís up to the guys who decide who to induct in the Hockey Hall Of Fame.$For sure, itís a great honor to get inducted there. Iím not going to say that I feel indifferent about that. But I have no control over it. To set a goal for yourself and achieve it on the ice is one thing. Itís all up to you. As for the Hockey Hall of Fame - you canít induct yourself. Whether I played good or not good enough for that Ė let others decide.

Rabiner: How closely do you follow this story?

Bure:I follow everything thatís happening in hockey and not only hockey. I try to be well-informed about everything.

Rabiner: Is it true that last Friday you played in the same skates you used at the Nagano Olympics in 1998?

Bure: So thatís how the rumors start! (laughs) It wasnít quite like that, no. I did have those skates with me because I haven't played hockey for such a long time. I simply didnít have any other equipment.

I sat next to [Vyacheslav] Fetisov and [Alexei] Kasatonov in the dressing-room. They saw that I had old equipment and asked to give me a new stuff. So I used that. Someone just saw me brining in the old equipment, talked about it to the others and a few days later this story had new interesting details.

Rabiner: How much did the equipment change in the last decade?

Bure: A lot. You have to keep up with the times! I remember when I was a kid and practiced at Red Army hockey school, I would see old-timers play in skates with steel blades. Me and other kids thought it was funny because all of us already played with plastic blades. It was just like when Bjern Borg came back to pro tennis with a wooden racquet.$Back then I also had a thought that I wouldn't want to be laughed at for this reason. If you feel comfortable with some Ďwork toolsí, it doesnít mean you donít have to adapt to new ones. You would get surprised if you're a guy who uses an abacus and not a calculator.

Rabiner: You quit hockey because of severe knee issues. How did you feel last Friday? Did you try any "Russian Rocket" style dashes?

Bure:$No, no, no dashes (smiles). Iím old, itís too late to accelerate. I felt alright, though. After all, itís wasnít the NHL, it was a friendly game, which is just fine for my knee.

Rabiner:$Itís not surprising at all. Iím aware of you love for tennis. I saw you play with Viktor Kozlov in the late 90ís and early 2000ís in Florida. People also say that youíre now into ju-jitsu?

Bure:$Correct. Note that Iím not into a sports ju-jitsu but into martial. I got into this more than 6 years ago. Iím serious about it Ė I practice 6 times a week. One practice takes up to half a day.

Rabiner: How did you get into it?

Bure:$After I retired from hockey, I kept myself in shape. I played tennis and went to the gym. To be honest, it was boring to go to the gym by myself. I was looking for something that would be fun and a good exercise at the same time. I tried ju-jitsu and I liked it.$Iím interested in finding out completely different abilities of my body that I had no idea of before. Itís a great exercise! I think itís comparable only to hockey.

Rabiner: But you suffer if you get punched. Why would you put yourself in that position? Itís not like itís your job.

Bure: For sure, getting punched hurts. Especially, because I practice with a pro. But it motivates you to get better! Besides, I donít want to go to any tournaments and achieve any results there. But when you see your own progress, you know what youíre doing it for. Ju-jitsu attracted me not only because of its physical aspect, but spiritual aspect as well. Itís a whole philosophy that teaches you to treat people kindly. I didnít do any martial arts before that and I was interested just how deep this school was.

Rabiner: Have you gained weight after you retired?

Bure: I never had any big issues with my weight. I never had to get on a diet or anything. Although, after I got into ju-jitsu I lost 22 pounds.


The Russian Rocket, looking trim in the Dojo (from October 2011).

Rabiner:$[Famous former Russian tennis player] Evgeny Kafelnikov after retiring from tennis got into poker and golf. Are you interested in these sports?

Bure:$When you do ju-jitsu for half a day, you donít have time for any other fun stuff.

Rabiner:$How is your brother Valery doing? Nobody has heard a thing about him in Russia for years.

Bure: He moved to California a few years ago. Heís got his own business Ė he produces wine.

Rabiner: After Avangardís GM, Anatoly Bardin, quit his position, people were saying you would be his replacement. Is it true you had negotiations with Avangard about that?

Bure:$I never heard about it.

Rabiner: Would you accept an offer to become a GM or a head-coach if there was one?

Bure:$I wouldnít be a head-coach. I can give you a 100% on that. I have my reasons, but itís a whole other story I donít want to get into right now. As for everything else, Iím open to negotiate. I would only accept a deal as long as interest and profit are mutual.

Rabiner: Did you get any offers like this from the KHL?

Bure: The offers have been preliminary and vague. The 2 things I was asking for were never there. Some of them were interesting but not profitable, others were profitable but not interesting.

Rabiner: Do you root for any team? For instance, Red Army and the Vancouver Canucks? These are the teams you spent your most successful and important years of your career.

Bure: I wouldnít say I Ďrootí for them per se Ė itís just too strong a word. If youíre not a fan, but someone whoís in the hockey world, youíre more likely to cheer for the people youíre close with regardless of clubs they work for.$I watch hockey with a great interest no matter what side of the Atlantic itís played at. I recently had a chat with Boris Mikhailov and we both agreed that hockey is more fun to watch on TV, since you can savor replays and everything. I thought I was the only one who was like that but it turns out even the greatest hockey players think like that.

Rabiner:Is there still a huge gap between the NHL and the Russian league?

Bure:$Itís getting smaller. A lot of things are being done for that by Russian government and KHL owners. But in order to close the gap entirely thereís still much to be done. Whether or not itís going to happen, time will tell.

Rabiner:$Does it surprise you that SKA St. Petersburg tops the standings even after rejuvenation of the roster and hiring new coaches along with GM?

Bure:$No. Iíll tell you even more Ė Iím happy they top the standings. SKAís new GM is my close friend Alexei Kasatonov. I cheer for SKA because of him. Their success makes me super happy.

Rabiner:$Thereís a lot of talk about ĎVityazí these days. Some people say that thanks to ĎVityazí the KHL is known world-wide. Some people say they play anti-hockey. Whatís your take on that?

Bure: ĎVityazí always played like that and itís not like itís unprecedented. Back in a day the Flyers and Blackhawks played like that in the NHL. Even we in Vancouver never had a tough-guy problem (laughs). Itís up to team management to pick a direction to develop in. And there are different ways out there.

Rabiner: You were captain and leading goal-scorer for Team Russia at the Olympics in Nagano in 1998. Could you imagine back then that at the 3 next Olympics Team Russia wouldnít even come close to what you managed to achieve back then?

Bure: Honestly, Iíve never thought of that. Because I live in the present, not in the past or the future. Whatís done is done. Life goes on.


Bure Captained Team Russia's "Team of Brothers" in Nagano in 1998

Rabiner: Why do you think Team Russia was destroyed in Vancouver in 2010?

Bure:$Last Friday after the game I talked about this to [former Team Russiaís head-coach] Slava Bykov. Heís still convinced Ė as much as I am Ė that we had a very strong team in Vancouver. I can also add that we had a tremendous coach, who won 2 World Championships in a row before that. What happened? Itís hard to tell. Sport is not a science. You canít put a label on everything.

Sometimes youíre just unlucky. On that particular day Iím sure it wasnít as much that we played badly, as it was that the Canadians played well. On that particular night they were unbeatable. If the game happened a day before or a day after Ė it may have been a different story. It happens in sports.

Rabiner:$Does it surprise you that Bykov got fired pretty much because of that one defeat?

Bure:$Thatís just what happens to coaches. If you lose, nobody is going to remember what have you won before that. If you get into this profession, you know the rules. I can only say that it wasnít my decision to fire Bykov.

What amazed me in all this was Putinís approach. Last Friday he thanked Bykov for the great deed he did for Russian hockey. It tells you that the prime-minister understands sports, and it shows you what kind of a man he is. Usually, [in Russia] if you lose, you just get fired and nobody is going to remember you.

Putin is a professional athlete, a wrestler. He thinks like an athlete, and Iím pleased to hear him say things that match my own vision. The fact that he organized a meeting between the former and current Team Russia head-coaches Ė Bykov and [Zinetula] Bilyaletdinov Ė demonstrates the good-natured atmosphere is being built around our national team.

Rabiner:$By the way, what do you think of new Team Russia coach?

Bure:$I like him a lot. Iíve known Bilyaletdinov for quite some time. I even played against him when he was finishing his career and I was just starting mine. We kept in touch when I played for the Canucks, and he coached the Jets.

Heís a pro. He was an excellent player, worked in the NHL, has a colossal amount of coaching experience. A lot of people didnít think that Team Russia would play so successfully under his reign at its very first tournament (Karjala Cup). I wish Bilyaletdinov luck with all my heart.

Rabiner:$Why do you think your successor as the leading goal-scorer of all Russian hockey, Alexander Ovechkin, has severely regressed over the past 2 seasons?

Bure:$Because itís hard to keep up to the level Ovechkin played at before. Your opponents watch your games closely, looking for the smallest nuances in your game and analyze it, so they could use it against you afterwards.

Rabiner: So what needs to be done?

Bure:$You have to find something new. And itís not that easy. People think itís that simple Ė you run, you shoot, you score 10 goals a game! Thereís a ton of work behind all of that.

Rabiner:$Do you have any advice for Ovechkin?

Bure:$Not through the media. If Alex is interested in my opinion, I can talk to him privately and try to think of something to help him. Giving advice in public is just not my thing. Heís a grown man. He doesnít need to schooled.

Rabiner: Recently all of Russia's superstars have underperformed in the NHL...

Bure:$In sport everything can happen. Even though they may be underperforming now, they're still superstars. They will figure it out in time.

Rabiner:$Will they play like they should in Sochi-2014?

Bure:$Itís unreasonable to talk about it now with Sochi still so far off. Itís still more than 2 years before the Olympics.$Sometimes a sniper scores 10 goals in a week and then canít get none in the next 2. This is exactly what the head-coachís job is Ė he has to pick the strongest players at the given moment. Itís always a better bet to pick a guy who scores more now, and not the one who did it last season.

Viktor Tikhonov, who I was lucky to play for at the beginning of my career, did just that. It was very rare for our Great Five to play badly, but if it happened, Tikhonov could easily put us, a formal third line at that time Ė Mogilny-Fedorov-Bure Ė on the first powerplay unit. This is exactly why he became such a great coach. He wasnít afraid to do anything that was better for his team at any given moment.

Rabiner:$Does it bug you that despite all of your personal achievement, you never became an Olympic champion?

Bure: On one hand, of course, I would love to be one. On the other, I never thought I would achieve anything I have in hockey. I thank god every day for what he has given me. I never thought I would play in the NHL, score 50+ goals 5 times and become the top-scorer in the best league in the world 3 times. If you asked me, whether or not I am happy with my achievement in hockey, my answer would be Ė I am super happy!

Rabiner: The only thing youíre not happy about must be your health that forced you to retire at 32.

Bure: I think itís for the best. Iím not sure I would continue my career even if I was healthy. I donít regret a single bit about that. You shouldnít anger god.

Rabiner: What does Team Russia has to do to become a Ďteam of brothersí as you rightly called Team Russia in Nagano?

Bure: It has everything to become one. It can be younger, better and stronger [than we were]. It has got support from the government. It has good coaches and wonderful players. In other words, thereís no doubt in my mind that weíre going to have a very strong team in Sochi. Although, many people forget that the NHL hasnít permitted its players to participate at these Olympics yet.

Rabiner: Do you think itís going to happen?

Bure: I canít really tell, but Iím fully convinced itís going to. The agreement isnít signed yet and many NHL folks are against that. Some of them think itís unprofitable for the league, especially because of 9-hour time difference, which is going to hurt TV-ratings badly. As you understand, on this topic Iím on the other side. The Russian side.

Rabiner:$As far as I understand, the majority of players regardless of what teams they represent, are as well.

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Wow, he just continues to still be my favourite Canuck even well past his retirement; and to think it's not like we were even short on superstars within the last decade.
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i think its time to move iggy to a contender, in today's nhl it is very rare for 1 player to play their entire career in 1 team
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=381533

only team flames worth trading iggy to is the bolts for brett connolly+ or sabres for luke adam+ and salary dump, no way they are gonna trade him to a western conference team

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i think its time to move iggy to a contender, in today's nhl it is very rare for 1 player to play their entire career in 1 team
Your Call: Should the Flames trade Jarome Iginla?

only team flames worth trading iggy to is the bolts for brett connolly+ or sabres for luke adam+ and salary dump, no way they are gonna trade him to a western conference team
wont get traded......heard it hear first
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