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Old Today, 03:33 PM   #29476
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When shit goes down, people do crazy ish... become unpredictable... if one person has significantly more assets than the other does it's pretty stupid not to protect what's yours.
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i didn't, but i would recommend my kids do. i don't know how my spouse would feel, we're similar education/salary etc. like i said in a previous thread, we had similar skin in the game. she probably would have felt offended thinking we "wouldn't make it". but i think of it like estate planning or having a will. i think most couples will say we take what we put in, though if things get nasty, may not go that way.

sometimes you both can come in poor and 1 person has potential and makes it. damn, did i just explain kanye's gold digger song?
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I was just going to say that sometimes, in a 2nd (or 3rd) marriage, one partner can bring a really lopsided amount of equity/wealth/asset into the relationship so if you want some protection in case marriage will dissolve in 5 yrs or something (again), then what you bring into the marriage before should be or can be protected and can be stated in a pre-nup? I dunno.

Shit is getting so complicated nowadays. Blended marriage, blended kids, your paycheck being deducted for support, and how do you even do inheritance in that situation.
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When I was young and naive, I used to think prenup is an indication of an inherent lack of trust in your partner and in love. So I was fairly disgusted with the concept of people signing prenups before getting married.

As I grew older, I am seeing the more ugly and complicated sides of human nature, and I agree with the inherent fairness that a good prenub should guarantee. Still, I believe in marriages, and I believe that assets gained during the marriage should be split between the couple even if it was mostly earned through one side of the marriage.

Of course there are a lot of tricky nuances in terms of how "fairness" is defined. If it is family money that has been inherited during the marriage, should that really be split between the divorcees? (I personally don't think so.) If it is income that only one of the spouse has earned, then probably a share of it would need to be shared with the other spouse.

At the end of the day, I'm a brokie, and le wifey is no better. I feel like proportionately, I've brought a lot more money going into the marriage, and continues to shoulder the bulk of the home expenses. I am obviously not happy about that situation, but that's how it is for us financially, and that's how things are. A divorce would be an absolute financial disaster, so it'd make no sense to go down that road.
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So I've been working on getting our wills done (fucking finally - my wife has dragged her feet for years on this) and one of the asks my wife had was whether we could put a clause in our will where our daughter would need a pre-nup in order to inherit our money (if she's married at the time she inherits the money). The lawyers said this was basically impractical though possible but a couple related points to this discussion:

1. Assets and money you bring into the marriage belong to you.
2. Inheritances are protected assets in a marriage. They're yours unless you explicitly choose to share it (eg. put it into a joint chequing account or give it to your spouse).

The complexity in both though is what you do with those assets after you get married - eg. you take the $100k you inherited and contribute it to a downpayment for a house. I'm not sure how a pre-nup handles that kind of stuff (I don't believe it does), I think that's a different set of rules.
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Yah, so suppose you have a son.

Son gets married, has 2 kids. Divorces. He remarries and has 2 more kids with 2nd wife. This 2nd wife also has 2 kids from previous marriage that she brought into the marriage. How many grandchildren do you have? 4 or 6?
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...this sounds like you have direct lived experience
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