Official Building/Upgrading thread

[ime2006]

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp

I'm close to pulling the trigger on the WD Black SN750 1TB for $116 USD

Or grab a 500 GB for now, and wait for the Gen4 drives to come down in price next year

Does your mobo support gen 4 ?

[SkinnyPupp]

Originally Posted by ime2006

Does your mobo support gen 4 ?

Yes but the drives are really expensive right now

Fast 500 GB drives, even gen3, are pretty expensive per GB

[Jmac]

SSDs are a little better than Prime Day prices. Seems like PSUs are a little better, too (although I wasn’t paying much attention to them on Prime Day).

I ordered a Samsung Odyssey G7 32” from Staples last night. Hopefully I got it in before they ran out of stock.

[ime2006]

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp

Yes but the drives are really expensive right now

Fast 500 GB drives, even gen3, are pretty expensive per GB

And Games are so big these days...
easily 60-80GB per game...

I bought Samsung 970 evo 1TB few days ago from Amazon.
Thinking of changing it to 2TB now, just because games are so big....

[SkinnyPupp]

My storage situation right now (the downside of only using SSD for the last 10 years, you just keep having to add more drives)



I literally ran out of SATA ports, so looking forward to making use of the M2 slots

[roastpuff]

Depending on your motherboard, if you use the 2nd M2 slot you might lose 2 SATA ports.

[ime2006]

Originally Posted by roastpuff

Depending on your motherboard, if you use the 2nd M2 slot you might lose 2 SATA ports.

I have found Asus has this card exist!!!! HYPER M.2 X16 GEN 4

https://www.asus.com/ca-en/Motherboa...16-GEN-4-CARD/

256Gbps!!! this is insane!!! thats 32gb per second!!!
And, only cost $113


Then, i just read other new about PCIE5.0 is on the way 2021......
And double the performance of 4.0 !!!

[Razor Ramon HG]

You should probably invest in a NAS.

I have two 500GB M.2 drives in my system and repurposed an old 4-bay NAS from work for home storage.

[SkinnyPupp]

Thanks guys I'll be fine, I have two open M2 slots, which aren't shared with SATA. The 1TB (yes I pulled the trigger on that WD Black) will make a huge difference, and I can get a second one later once Gen4 prices come down.

I just keep a lot of games installed for years that I never play but want to keep around just in case

Just a reminder/tip if people are looking at NVMe drives: Be sure to compare 4K IOPS performance, not MB/s sequential speeds. This will give you actual real world performance of loading games, applications, etc, rather than "best case scenario" of just copying large files around (unless that's what you plan on doing with it, of course)

[Manic!]

Anyone need a cheap office type computer. New Dell with a I3 and 8 gigs of ram.

https://forums.redflagdeals.com/dell...taxes-2424758/

Pro tip: if you are installing an SSD, remove the other hard drive then install windows. You can put the hard drive back in after. This will save you a ton of headaches.

[snowball]

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp

My storage situation right now (the downside of only using SSD for the last 10 years, you just keep having to add more drives)



I literally ran out of SATA ports, so looking forward to making use of the M2 slots

Let's be real, each one of those "red" drives are for porn.

[SkinnyPupp]

[twitchyzero]

thanks to whoever suggested the wifi mesh some pages back

memxpress has the asus ac one for $310 rn

https://www.memoryexpress.com/Search...cts?Search=ct8

still hurts, i paid $40 for my ac56u in 2014 lol

[Mr.Money]

3060 ti launching today....perfect 1080p card IMO.

[SkinnyPupp]

I suppose it depends on your standards for frame rates and quality settings... If you're looking for "console like settings" then the 3060 Ti might be the better option. But if you prefer to game at >60 FPS with higher than console quality, then you may want to move up a tier to the 3070. (for reference, console GPU power is at about 2060 Super levels, although it's not really "apples to apples" so beware of that comparison)

Actually the RX 6800 might be the better one, considering it's faster in most scenarios. The only issue is poor ray tracing performance. DLSS is a non factor to me, since at 1080p it actually doesn't work very well (to me it really just looks like 720p with AA). In that case, you'll need to turn some RT features off even on a 3070, if you want >60 FPS performance.

It's a shame that AMD wasted putting so much RAM on the RX 6800, which has no business running at 4K with ultra high textures anyway. They should have just stuck 8GB on it, passed the savings on to the consumer, and destroyed the 3070 in both price and performance. Maybe they'll do that with an RX 6700 or something.

[Razor Ramon HG]

The 3060TI is basically a 2080S with better power consumption and better raytracing.

Definitely more than enough for high refresh 1080p gaming.

[SkinnyPupp]

Even RDR2 would crush it at 1080p if you tried to enable everything.

People tend to be extremely unrealistic about real world performance, I see it quite a bit. PC graphics are underestimated and console graphics are highly exaggerated. We see consoles doing 30 fps at 1080p (last gen) or 60 fps at 1440p (current gen) but forget that this is basically with "low" settings on a PC, with maybe some "medium". Higher AA, higher res textures, better post processing is all available to a PC gamer, and will bring a GPU to its knees if you try to enable everything. Even at 1080p... Consoles always make use of "free" upscaling too, so very often will run at resolutions lower than the display res.

So yeah "more than enough" maybe, but if you want smoothness + beyond console graphics, you will need more horsepower.

[SkinnyPupp]

Retailers say Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti launch stock is like all the 3080, 3090, and 3070 cards combined

[AzNightmare]

I was pretty fixed on getting the Ryzen 3600 but they're all sold out.

So how does this work? Should there be an expectation that they will eventually come back in stock, or is the cpu discontinued and I should start looking at other options?
And likewise, for older GPU's that are out of stock?

[Razor Ramon HG]

Originally Posted by AzNightmare

I was pretty fixed on getting the Ryzen 3600 but they're all sold out.

So how does this work? Should there be an expectation that they will eventually come back in stock, or is the cpu discontinued and I should start looking at other options?

And likewise, for older GPU's that are out of stock?

With the 3600/3600X being discontinued, your only option is to buy them second hand. They'll probably slowly make their way to the used market as 5600X orders get fulfilled.

If you're looking to build something now, I'd recommend the i5-10400F. Much cheaper than the 3600/3600X and performance is pretty much on par with Intel being better for gaming and AMD better for productivity.

If you want to upgrade down the road, both have a similar roadmap with more one generation of support.

[AzNightmare]

Originally Posted by Razor Ramon HG

With the 3600/3600X being discontinued, your only option is to buy them second hand. They'll probably slowly make their way to the used market as 5600X orders get fulfilled.

If you're looking to build something now, I'd recommend the i5-10400F. Much cheaper than the 3600/3600X and performance is pretty much on par with Intel being better for gaming and AMD better for productivity.

If you want to upgrade down the road, both have a similar roadmap with more one generation of support.

How good is this cpu for 1440p ultrawide gaming?
I just did some research and B460 mobo's can only handle up to 2666mhz RAM? I guess I have to factor in the price of mobo too if I'm switching to Intel. I'm not sure if that's the best mobo right now. I only did research on parts for my AMD build the past several weeks.

I'm planning on picking up a 3060ti whenever it comes in stock, so will there be any bottleneck?

I'm most likely not really going to do any upgrading after as I tend to just build everything from scratch and let it run it's course until my system can't keep up anymore.

[Razor Ramon HG]

Originally Posted by AzNightmare

How good is this cpu for 1440p ultrawide gaming?
I just did some research and B460 mobo's can only handle up to 2666mhz RAM? I guess I have to factor in the price of mobo too if I'm switching to Intel. I'm not sure if that's the best mobo right now. I only did research on parts for my AMD build the past several weeks.

I'm planning on picking up a 3060ti whenever it comes in stock, so will there be any bottleneck?

I'm most likely not really going to do any upgrading after as I tend to just build everything from scratch and let it run it's course until my system can't keep up anymore.

The i5-10400F is better than a 3600/3600X overall when it comes to gaming.

I don't really think RAM is much of a bottleneck in most situations.

Intel CPUs don't really care much about RAM clock speeds, but latency. You can mitigate this by getting DDR4-2666 RAM with lower timings or by buying regular RAM and fiddling with the timings.

It's definitely not worth getting a Z490 board to pair it with the i5-10400F for the faster supported RAM.

The i5-10400F won't bottleneck the 3060TI especially at 1440p. You'll be GPU bound long before that becomes a concern.

[lilaznviper]

i saw the 3600x at canada computers yesterday saying instock but all gone again.

If you are really set on the 3600x i can try to find one through my work channels.

Also for RS members, i have access to some limited stock for 3080/3070/3060 if anyone is still looking for them and don't care about brand. Been able to get zotac and msi ones but more zotac ones.

[bigzz786786]

^pmed!

[Mr.Money]

......

so i bought the most premium 3070 available reviewers say its a 1440p card but i'm sticking at 1080p 360hz,so it should have plenty of horsepower what i need it to do coming from a little 1070.


see what this bitch could do in cyberpunk with ray tracing.