B.C Mayors vote in new gas tax

[shenmecar]

Every couple of months theres a new tax.

[FRStan]

Originally Posted by shenmecar

Every couple of months theres a new tax.

Every couple of months we gotta bend over

[quasi]

Originally Posted by MindBomber

No, not exactly, new construction in Langley is all extremely high density and construction of new developments increasing density is constant. The density in the core of Langley and Cloverdale is equal to anywhere in the GVRD that doesn't have high rises. When I began high school in 2001 in Langley my high school had 1100 students, when I graduated that had increased to 2800 students.

The thing with Vancouver is most areas are already developed it's not like they are knocking down trees or 20 square blocks of houses and building huge subdivisions. They knock down and replace or renovate single homes but it's not really the same. Out here they still have tons of untouched land that's being developed and when they build it's not a single house but a whole subdivision. The lot sizes are tiny to cram as many homes in as possible which makes for dense population.

[Lomac]

Originally Posted by quasi

The thing with Vancouver is most areas are already developed it's not like they are knocking down trees or 20 square blocks of houses and building huge subdivisions. They knock down and replace or renovate single homes but it's not really the same. Out here they still have tons of untouched land that's being developed and when they build it's not a single house but a whole subdivision. The lot sizes are tiny to cram as many homes in as possible which makes for dense population.

*coughClaytonHeightscough*

Five houses crammed onto a single acre lot, each with a basement suite and a carriage house out back. It's the closest thing you can get to having an apartment block without the actual building.

[quasi]

Originally Posted by Lomac

*coughClaytonHeightscough*

Five houses crammed onto a single acre lot, each with a basement suite and a carriage house out back. It's the closest thing you can get to having an apartment block without the actual building.

Yes sir.

[Death2Theft]

Yet more people keep coming to vancouver, too bad people dont vote with their feet and start walking away.

Originally Posted by shenmecar

Every couple of months theres a new tax.

[goo3]

Originally Posted by MindBomber

The density in the majority of Langley is equal to any other city in the GVRD outside of the DT core.

That's not saying much.

Too far, too costly, not enough ppl. You even admit Langley's an island. YOu wanna lay down how much infrastructure to serve 100K? Not gonna work. Move closer or drive.

[Culverin]

Originally Posted by tiger_handheld

LOL WUT??
Somebody explain why car drivers need to subsidize cyclists?

Need? No.
Must? Because we as stewards of the environment with even a modicum of sense recognize that burning fossil fuels for overpowered single-person transport is not sustainable.

Bike lanes a good idea? Yes.
Bike lane implementation? Fail. They just needed to move it elsewhere and minimize costs. But this isn't translink. This is the City of Vancouver dicking around with their money.


Subsidizing sustainable transport? They have my full and utter vote behind this. We need more skytrain or subway system.

Give me these skytrain lines and I will shut up and be content
- from broadway to UBC.
- From Lougheed to coquitlam center
- From willingdon and hastings to marine drive.
- From marine drive to cambie.

At that point, I will focus my hopes elsewhere.



Before you guys make some crazy arguments, please understand that the bike lanes have nothing to do with the proposed gas tax.
Thanks.

[MindBomber]

Originally Posted by goo3

That's not saying much.

Too far, too costly, not enough ppl. You even admit Langley's an island. YOu wanna lay down how much infrastructure to serve 100K? Not gonna work. Move closer or drive.

Where did I state that Langley's an island?
Langley borders directly onto Cloverdale, Port Kells, it's just a hop over the bridge to Maple Ridge and hopefully soon a short bus ride from Abbotsford which is also expanding rapidly. An extension of light rail wouldn't just serve the 130k living in Langley, it would serve all the surrounding communities since access to transit east of the Fraser is poor at best.

If Langley isn't going to have it's access to transit improved, it's citizens are doing nothing but subsidizing transit for those who live in cities closer to Vancouver.

Originally Posted by Culverin

Need? No.
Must? Because we as stewards of the environment with even a modicum of sense recognize that burning fossil fuels for overpowered single-person transport is not sustainable.

Bike lanes a good idea? Yes.
Bike lane implementation? Fail. They just needed to move it elsewhere and minimize costs. But this isn't translink. This is the City of Vancouver dicking around with their money.

Exactly, improving infrastructure to facilitate bike lanes is a great move on the part of Vancouver, they just implemented them very poorly. Lessening the need for infrastructure that supports a single car, transporting a single person to and from work through transit expansions is an even more worthwhile investment. Mass transit is infinitely more effective and efficient at transporting people than highways. It would be my dream to see Vancouver and it's surrounding communities evolve to a level where driving to work is no longer the norm, but that it's the exception.

[hotjoint]

Originally Posted by bluejays

Tax the people who drive, so that they can pay for the people who transit

Yup, gotta love translink. They find a way to fuck you even if you don't take transit.

Originally Posted by shenmecar

Every couple of months theres a new tax.

Seems like it doesn't it.

Anyone also notice how gas prices are still the same as when oil was $100 a barrel? LMAO we're getting fucked left and right

[iEatClams]

I honestly dont know why we are not more pissed about the obvious price gouging thats going on with gas prices at stations.

Oil has gone down from over $110 in May to $80 now. Yet gas prices at the pump are still the same. Yet oil prices go up, the prices at the pump seem to reflect the changes a lot quicker. I understand refining and all that other shiet but still.
Gas should be at least 10 cents cheaper than it is right now!

[Mr.HappySilp]

^^ u mean gas will be 10cents higher once this tax passes. By the time they do put the tax in transit will come up with some BS saying 3cents a litre is nto enough and the actual amount is 10cents per L.

[PornMaster]

IMO someone should make a stand for all this bs on taxing gas like a motherfucker

[tonyzoomzoom]

f u translink !!

[SFUguy]

Mayors from Surrey, Vancouver and at least five other cities are poised to force through a two-cent gas tax hike to help fund the Evergreen Line and other transit expansion projects.

Surrey Mayor Dianne Watts, Vancouver’s Gregor Robertson and mayors from Coquitlam, Port Coquitlam, Langley City, West Vancouver and the District of North Vancouver issued a joint statement Tuesday saying they will vote for TransLink’s Moving Forward supplement on Friday.

The seven mayors represent 70 per cent of Metro Vancouver’s 2.5 million residents and hold enough population-weighted votes to force the plan through even if most of the region’s 22 cities object.

Burnaby, Richmond and Delta mayors said they will oppose the plan arguing their municipalities have the least to benefit.

The extra two cents a litre in gas tax would take effect in April and raise $40 million a year of the needed $70 million annually to fund the plan.

Mayors and the province would have one year to negotiate another $30 million worth of new funding sources for TransLink – such as a road pricing, a vehicle levy, a second regional carbon tax or other options.

The supplement would allow TransLink to deliver its $400-million contribution for the $1.4-billion Evergreen Line.

The plan would provide for RapidBus service over the Port Mann Bridge to Surrey and Langley, a new B-Line express bus route down King George Boulevard, a Langley-White Rock bus route, more frequent SeaBus service, SkyTrain station upgrades and various other bus service increases, along with some more money for road work and cycling routes.

Voiceonline | B.C Mayors vote in new gas tax

[civic_rice]

B.c.= bring cash
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[Mr.HappySilp]

Lol mind as well put a meter in everyone's car and tax them every Km they drive and bill them directly.

[doma]

More trips to the states!

[Redlines_Daily]

[Energy]

Sigh at least Pt. Roberts is just a few minutes away.

[Gnomes]

Mayors and the province would have one year to negotiate another $30 million worth of new funding sources for TransLink – such as a road pricing, a vehicle levy, a second regional carbon tax or other options.

Another tax on gas as an option? That will be a 3rd tax within a short period of time if it gets approved.

[hongy]

Fuck this shit.

[vl_86]

Is there any way to vote against this, besides bitching to your local MLA?

[optiblue]

really sucks, but no matter how much gas costs, I'll still pay... what would I do, take the bus?

Can't wait to see EV's bring down entire economies~

[Rotary_Rage]

Glad I moved to Alberta, woke up to 109.9 for regular at the pump, our premium right now is cheaper then B.C.'s regular (121.9)