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Psykopathik 10-21-2011 10:41 AM

ISPs that don't throttle bitTorrent?
 
OK i'm on Shaw and getting pretty pissed off with the throttling.

is there any other provider in vancouver/coquitlam that does NOT throttle?

Manic! 10-21-2011 10:48 AM

Shaw does not thorttle form what I have seen. Are you using a Wifi router?

Psykopathik 10-21-2011 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 7623430)
Shaw does not thorttle form what I have seen. Are you using a Wifi router?

im hardwired. as soon as i fire up uTorrent, the net almost DIES. i tried Peer Guardian and it works for a little while then Shaw catches on again.

and yes im using a wireless router too. port forwarded and all that. the main PC is wired.

Manic! 10-21-2011 11:05 AM

In Utorrent change the number of connections to a lower amount. Click options then preferences and then bandwidth.

eddoe 10-21-2011 11:28 AM

Ouch, when I use to use BitTorrent I noticed that Shaw tends to throttle during 5-7ish. Either that or the nodes were just congested during prime-time browsing.

Soundy 10-21-2011 11:47 AM

Funny you should ask this now - LifeHacker just posted an article on ISPs throttling BitTorrent: Find Out Which ISPs Are the Biggest BitTorrent Throttlers


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Canada

In Canada, all large ISPs have admitted to slowing down BitTorrent traffic, and some do so to a great extent. Since the start of the measurements Rogers has continuously throttled more than three-quarter of all BitTorrent traffic, and there are no signs that this will stop.

During the first quarter of 2010 the two other large Canadian ISPs, Bell and Shaw, were throttling 16 and 14 percent respectively. Videotron on the other hand has never slowed down more than 7 percent, and only 3 percent during the last measurement year.

Worst: Rogers (78%)
Best: Videotron (3%)

Psykopathik 10-21-2011 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 7623450)
In Utorrent change the number of connections to a lower amount. Click options then preferences and then bandwidth.

all that is done. I am about ready to just move to someone who isnt gonna fuck me.

striderblade 10-21-2011 02:44 PM

i'm with shaw and i don't have any problem with torrent. Sound like the problem is either coming from your anti virus software or firewall setting. Had this happened to me once. Try disable some setting in there one by one until you find the source.

!MiKrofT 10-21-2011 02:49 PM

Do you have utorrent encryption turned on? My internet and torrents are always fast. I've gotten a torrent at 3MB/s download at one time while still surfing fine. In addition to the encryption I also cap my upload bandwidth to 15KB/s max

JesseBlue 10-21-2011 04:10 PM

teksavvy...i don't feel any difference when i'm torrenting and surfing...

enabling encryption should help a bunch but only if peers are available...g'luck...

mb_ 10-21-2011 04:15 PM

Have no problems with Shaw/uTorrent as well. Have encryption set to Forced

bloodmack 10-21-2011 05:18 PM

i avg 500kb - 1mb download speeds with shaw on utorrent depends on the torrent for me.

StylinRed 10-21-2011 07:03 PM

ive no issue with torrents although i hardly ever download that way but when i do im just limited by my extreme plan

have you or do you need to adjust those tcp half-open settings?

Ulic Qel-Droma 10-21-2011 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by !MiKrofT (Post 7623763)
Do you have utorrent encryption turned on? My internet and torrents are always fast. I've gotten a torrent at 3MB/s download at one time while still surfing fine. In addition to the encryption I also cap my upload bandwidth to 15KB/s max

where do u find this option? i dont see it anywhere and i have the latest utorrent version.

!MiKrofT 10-21-2011 10:54 PM

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8070499/torrent.jpg

ddr 10-21-2011 11:21 PM

i'm gonna take a wild guess and say it might have to do with you router and QoS, i had the same problem you're having without a router. i've used a 655 for couple years now and it's been all good with Shaw.

torrent speeds can vary wildly depending on where your seeds are. Sometimes they total just under 2mb/sec with stuff from demonoid or tpb, i've also had stuff from china that constantly stays at <10kb/sec.

woob 10-22-2011 10:02 AM

I'm on Shaw Extreme and I can confirm the 14% throttle.

Torrenting, I have never seen a speed higher than 2.7MBps = 21.6Mbps.

1-(21.6/25)*100 = 13.8% throttled, where 21.6 is my "real" speed, and 25 is the advertised speed.

PornMaster 10-22-2011 10:14 AM

telus has never throttled

twitchyzero 10-22-2011 10:49 AM

+1 telus doesn't seem to throttle

Jeremy617 10-22-2011 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by woob (Post 7624582)
I'm on Shaw Extreme and I can confirm the 14% throttle.

Torrenting, I have never seen a speed higher than 2.7MBps = 21.6Mbps.

1-(21.6/25)*100 = 13.8% throttled, where 21.6 is my "real" speed, and 25 is the advertised speed.

I kinda doubt that's entirely throttling, considering 4-5%ish on top of that speed is probably IP headers, and i'm sure there's probably quite a decent amount of control traffic for torrenting, and you'll never get the full 25mbps down to the last bit anyways.

Telus definitely does rate limiting for regular downloads, don't know about torrents. I generally just use a certain file hosting website to download everything from, which i always get about 14.6mbps from (incl headers). I downloaded about 20GB a day on monday/tuesday/wednesday at full speed, and come thursday i started a download and get 60KB/s, but only from that site, everything else was fine. Except, i was watching my bytes downloaded go... 256KB.. pause ..512KB.. pause ..768KB.. pause.. 1024KB. So at that point it was painfully obvious what telus was doing, so i just turned on my work VPN and sure enough was back to 1.5MB/s once telus couldn't identify the traffic.

!MiKrofT 10-22-2011 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeremy617 (Post 7624723)
I kinda doubt that's entirely throttling, considering 4-5%ish on top of that speed is probably IP headers, and i'm sure there's probably quite a decent amount of control traffic for torrenting, and you'll never get the full 25mbps down to the last bit anyways.

Telus definitely does rate limiting for regular downloads, don't know about torrents. I generally just use a certain file hosting website to download everything from, which i always get about 14.6mbps from (incl headers). I downloaded about 20GB a day on monday/tuesday/wednesday at full speed, and come thursday i started a download and get 60kbps, but only from that site, everything else was fine. Except, i was watching my bytes downloaded go... 256KB.. pause ..512KB.. pause ..768KB.. pause.. 1024KB. So at that point it was painfully obvious what telus was doing, so i just turned on my work VPN and sure enough was back to 1.5MB/s once telus couldn't identify the traffic.

Correct. That's no way to tell cause torrent speeds are all over the place. There's no way you can maintain a 25mbps on shaw extreme from most of the sites online.

twitchyzero 10-22-2011 01:40 PM

only real way to tell if you are being trottled from torrents are good private tracker where everyone's seeding like nuts lol

woob 10-22-2011 01:44 PM

^ all my torrents are off private trackers. I DL usually at a constant 2.3-2.5MB/s . 2.7 is the max that I have seen it and thus I used that value in my calculation.

terkan 10-23-2011 04:08 AM

i have no problem with my internet etc when i'm torrenting.. the only time i run into problem is if someone is uploading like mad ~ i can download as fast as i want with no problem it's when someone is uploading that's when i start having issues =\

impactX 10-23-2011 04:16 AM

What router are you using?


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