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optiblue 10-22-2011 05:59 PM

Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 11 will be a hybrid :(
 
Not sure if you guys are keeping up with Mitsubishi news, but they just confirmed the other day that the next Evo will be a hybrid.

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...president.html

Also, they're discontinuing the 4B11 found in lancers, ralliarts, and Evo's and replacing it with a fuel saving 4J10.

http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com/pub...etail0808.html
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1exotic 10-22-2011 06:02 PM

I think its better to discontinue a car entirely than contiue making it as a hybrid.

Onassis 10-22-2011 06:10 PM

Mitsubishi has been developing a hybrid evo behind the scenes since the VIII, if anyone can make an exciting, affordable hybrid that can actually use the "unlimited" torque, it's going to be them.

Geoc 10-22-2011 06:20 PM

So, the Evo would run head-to-head against the STi... until the battery runs out :troll:

Stealthy 10-22-2011 08:19 PM

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...tfiddybert.gif

Timpo 10-23-2011 12:10 AM

Mitsubishi is trying to enter high performance hybrid market?

It might be a good competitor for Infiniti M hybrid...


Timpo 10-23-2011 12:19 AM

Including OP, I don't know why some of you are taking this so negatively...

Hybrid doesn't equal to Prius...

If it can go faster than Evo X and get great gas mileage...why not?

MindBomber 10-23-2011 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timpo (Post 7625489)
Including OP, I don't know why some of you are taking this so negatively...

Hybrid doesn't equal to Prius...

Exactly.

Honda re-opened NSX development again, guess what, it's going to be a hybrid too. Hybrids and eventually full electric cars are the future, gas guzzlers are a dying breed. It wasn't even five years ago when I last filled up at $0.63 a liter, now we're at $1.40 and prices don't even go down in the winter any more. I don't know how anyone could afford to drive a car burning 91 or 94 octane, getting 20mpg..

twitchyzero 10-23-2011 01:02 AM

i thought they wanted to kill off the evo for good?

AVS_Racing 10-23-2011 01:18 AM

^^^^ same i thought there was no more evo after X

Timpo 10-23-2011 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MindBomber (Post 7625495)
Exactly.

Honda re-opened NSX development again, guess what, it's going to be a hybrid too. Hybrids and eventually full electric cars are the future, gas guzzlers are a dying breed. It wasn't even five years ago when I last filled up at $0.63 a liter, now we're at $1.40 and prices don't even go down in the winter any more. I don't know how anyone could afford to drive a car burning 91 or 94 octane, getting 20mpg..

Tesla Roadster
http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/cro...5-1_460x0w.jpg

0-60mph in 3.7 seconds

it's fast enough to scare a little kid.


EvoFire 10-23-2011 02:49 AM

Part of me is a little surprised the 4B11 is already being put out to pasture. It hasn't been around for that long, and the head in 4B11T engines are known to flow very well.

The other part of me is saying finally. Finally, maybe Mitsu will have a more competitive base 4cyl engine. Doesn't seem like the world engine has done much good for Chrysler or Mitsubishi.

dogeatcookie 10-23-2011 05:18 AM

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog..../100208opt.jpg

Hybrid

xilley 10-23-2011 05:24 AM

i think everyones just set at the fact that hybirds run on electric which makes our cars seem like remote control cars. while, steel and metal of a engine should be grinding on gasoline in order to be a beast, and that thought just keeps getting in people mind

Zyzz 10-23-2011 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xilley (Post 7625629)
steel and metal of a engine should be grinding on gasoline in order to be a beast

I like my car like I like my porn.

uncensored meat grinding into meat.

FerrariEnzo 10-23-2011 06:16 AM

:seriously:

anti-vip 10-23-2011 08:08 AM

I think electric assist will be a great addition, torque on demand will be greatly utilize in motorsport racing as well as normal commute.

roastpuff 10-23-2011 08:11 AM

Maybe it will be a road-version of KERS!

Geoc 10-23-2011 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timpo (Post 7625489)
Including OP, I don't know why some of you are taking this so negatively...

Hybrid doesn't equal to Prius...

If it can go faster than Evo X and get great gas mileage...why not?

Because the battery has a range. Once it's out, that motor assist would be gone.

If I wanted a performance vehicle with a rally pedigree, I'd expect it to be a gas and go vehicle that's provides consistent performance throughout it's life.

We'd probably see a lot of a 4B11T or 4G63T swaps in the future of Evo xi

anti-vip 10-23-2011 09:31 AM

^^^but still you have to refuel...same thing on the battery,you replace it once its worn out

donjalapeno 10-23-2011 09:57 AM

like it or not and as much as i hate saying it but hybrids are the future of performance cars.

Geoc 10-23-2011 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slow_3fe (Post 7625683)
^^^but still you have to refuel...same thing on the battery,you replace it once its worn out

But batteries take hours to recharge, whereas gassing up takes a matter of minutes.

If you were going to do a day of hard driving (ie. at the track) that battery is gonna run out in the first 50km.

Also, prius do well with batteries because of the gentle driving style you usually accompany it with. But in a performance vehicle, I'd doubt battery technology has been advanced enough to take high rates of rapid discharge(accelerating) and recharge (braking) of the battery with aggressive driving. If you do drive it hard, I'd expect the battery to last somewhere around 3-5 years. And the batteries are incredibly expensive to replace.

Batteries also tend to heat up quite a bit under extended periods of stress as well and sometimes even overheat.

If you live in a cold climate, you would have to deal with a lot of headaches simply because batteries just don't like cold weather.

While a performance hybrid do sound like a good idea, the technology simply isn't here yet.

mmmk 10-23-2011 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MindBomber (Post 7625495)
Exactly.

Honda re-opened NSX development again, guess what, it's going to be a hybrid too. Hybrids and eventually full electric cars are the future, gas guzzlers are a dying breed. It wasn't even five years ago when I last filled up at $0.63 a liter, now we're at $1.40 and prices don't even go down in the winter any more. I don't know how anyone could afford to drive a car burning 91 or 94 octane, getting 20mpg..

In the past, full electric cars failed badly.
There was no market for them. There never will be.

Hybrids, I do believe will be the successors of petrol cars though.

Timpo 10-23-2011 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geoc (Post 7625721)
But batteries take hours to recharge, whereas gassing up takes a matter of minutes.

No it doesn't...

If you use quick charger, Nissan Leaf takes 30 min to charge 80% full.

As technology improves, it will probably be like 5 or 10 min.

http://japannewscar.net/wp-content/u...san-Leaf-1.jpg

Timpo 10-23-2011 12:06 PM

Just like RC cars...
RC cars used to take 8 hours to recharge.
But nowadays...it only takes 5 min.

Also electric powered RC cars (Brushless and Lipo) are faster than Nitro RC cars.


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