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Old 10-22-2011, 05:59 PM   #1
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Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 11 will be a hybrid :(

Not sure if you guys are keeping up with Mitsubishi news, but they just confirmed the other day that the next Evo will be a hybrid.

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...president.html

Also, they're discontinuing the 4B11 found in lancers, ralliarts, and Evo's and replacing it with a fuel saving 4J10.

http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com/pub...etail0808.html
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Old 10-22-2011, 06:02 PM   #2
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I think its better to discontinue a car entirely than contiue making it as a hybrid.
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Mitsubishi has been developing a hybrid evo behind the scenes since the VIII, if anyone can make an exciting, affordable hybrid that can actually use the "unlimited" torque, it's going to be them.
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So, the Evo would run head-to-head against the STi... until the battery runs out
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Mitsubishi is trying to enter high performance hybrid market?

It might be a good competitor for Infiniti M hybrid...

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Including OP, I don't know why some of you are taking this so negatively...

Hybrid doesn't equal to Prius...

If it can go faster than Evo X and get great gas mileage...why not?
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Including OP, I don't know why some of you are taking this so negatively...

Hybrid doesn't equal to Prius...
Exactly.

Honda re-opened NSX development again, guess what, it's going to be a hybrid too. Hybrids and eventually full electric cars are the future, gas guzzlers are a dying breed. It wasn't even five years ago when I last filled up at $0.63 a liter, now we're at $1.40 and prices don't even go down in the winter any more. I don't know how anyone could afford to drive a car burning 91 or 94 octane, getting 20mpg..
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i thought they wanted to kill off the evo for good?
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^^^^ same i thought there was no more evo after X
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Exactly.

Honda re-opened NSX development again, guess what, it's going to be a hybrid too. Hybrids and eventually full electric cars are the future, gas guzzlers are a dying breed. It wasn't even five years ago when I last filled up at $0.63 a liter, now we're at $1.40 and prices don't even go down in the winter any more. I don't know how anyone could afford to drive a car burning 91 or 94 octane, getting 20mpg..
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Part of me is a little surprised the 4B11 is already being put out to pasture. It hasn't been around for that long, and the head in 4B11T engines are known to flow very well.

The other part of me is saying finally. Finally, maybe Mitsu will have a more competitive base 4cyl engine. Doesn't seem like the world engine has done much good for Chrysler or Mitsubishi.
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i think everyones just set at the fact that hybirds run on electric which makes our cars seem like remote control cars. while, steel and metal of a engine should be grinding on gasoline in order to be a beast, and that thought just keeps getting in people mind
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steel and metal of a engine should be grinding on gasoline in order to be a beast
I like my car like I like my porn.

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I think electric assist will be a great addition, torque on demand will be greatly utilize in motorsport racing as well as normal commute.
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Including OP, I don't know why some of you are taking this so negatively...

Hybrid doesn't equal to Prius...

If it can go faster than Evo X and get great gas mileage...why not?
Because the battery has a range. Once it's out, that motor assist would be gone.

If I wanted a performance vehicle with a rally pedigree, I'd expect it to be a gas and go vehicle that's provides consistent performance throughout it's life.

We'd probably see a lot of a 4B11T or 4G63T swaps in the future of Evo xi
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^^^but still you have to refuel...same thing on the battery,you replace it once its worn out
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like it or not and as much as i hate saying it but hybrids are the future of performance cars.
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^^^but still you have to refuel...same thing on the battery,you replace it once its worn out
But batteries take hours to recharge, whereas gassing up takes a matter of minutes.

If you were going to do a day of hard driving (ie. at the track) that battery is gonna run out in the first 50km.

Also, prius do well with batteries because of the gentle driving style you usually accompany it with. But in a performance vehicle, I'd doubt battery technology has been advanced enough to take high rates of rapid discharge(accelerating) and recharge (braking) of the battery with aggressive driving. If you do drive it hard, I'd expect the battery to last somewhere around 3-5 years. And the batteries are incredibly expensive to replace.

Batteries also tend to heat up quite a bit under extended periods of stress as well and sometimes even overheat.

If you live in a cold climate, you would have to deal with a lot of headaches simply because batteries just don't like cold weather.

While a performance hybrid do sound like a good idea, the technology simply isn't here yet.

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Exactly.

Honda re-opened NSX development again, guess what, it's going to be a hybrid too. Hybrids and eventually full electric cars are the future, gas guzzlers are a dying breed. It wasn't even five years ago when I last filled up at $0.63 a liter, now we're at $1.40 and prices don't even go down in the winter any more. I don't know how anyone could afford to drive a car burning 91 or 94 octane, getting 20mpg..
In the past, full electric cars failed badly.
There was no market for them. There never will be.

Hybrids, I do believe will be the successors of petrol cars though.
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But batteries take hours to recharge, whereas gassing up takes a matter of minutes.
No it doesn't...

If you use quick charger, Nissan Leaf takes 30 min to charge 80% full.

As technology improves, it will probably be like 5 or 10 min.

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Just like RC cars...
RC cars used to take 8 hours to recharge.
But nowadays...it only takes 5 min.

Also electric powered RC cars (Brushless and Lipo) are faster than Nitro RC cars.
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