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Nov. 1 - A Boeing 767 flying from New York with 230 people on board makes an emergency the landing in Warsaw's Chopin Airport after trouble with landing gear. No one was hurt. The plane is owned by Polish flag carrier LOT. Rough Cut (no reporter narration).
who cares how strong the belly is. Fuckin amazing skill by the pilot to land it like that and no one injured. Plane didnt break apart or anything.
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who cares how strong the belly is. Fuckin amazing skill by the pilot to land it like that and no one injured. Plane didnt break apart or anything.
the plane didnt break apart because of the strong belly, if it wasnt strong in the first place, even the most experienced pilot wont be able to keep the plane in 1 piece.
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its like.. oh yeah oh yeah.. ohhhh yeah... OOoooOohh... why's it suddenly feel a bit better... ohhhh yeahh... ohhh...oh..fuck... it probably ripped.
Luckily, the emergency workers on ground had time to line the runway with fire-retardant foam.
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Doesnt the computer of the plane do the landing take off and almost everything else? LOL?
When selected the Autopilot will make an auto approach. But in this case, the pilot had control the whole way, nothing of that landing was computer controlled. Without having landing gear down, the aircraft still thinks it's in the air, so an auto approach. The B767 isn't as computerized as newer aircraft such as the B777.
My question is why alternate extend didn't work. Normal gear retraction/extension is done through hydraulics. When the gear is stowed during flight, the weight of gear rests on the main gear doors. The main gear door is latched closed with a large hook (door uplock hook), which holds the weight of the door and gear (when stowed). When the alternate system is used, an electric actuator will move a mechanic cable which will unlatch the door uplock hook. The weight of the gear should freefall into the down position, with a little help of airspeed, the gear should be locked down.
There are redundancies built into the system which should have prevented this, but in this case it failed.
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while crews sprayed the tarmac with fire retardant
that's what happened when I came back from Hawaii the first time. no foam tho.
as we prepare to land we hear this horrible grununununun-grun grinding noise. I think "that does NOT sound normal..." damn landing gear wouldn't come out.
landing at night with the runway lined with emergency vehicles......
That's not as hard of a landing as you make it out to seem. Maintain directional control, reverse thrust, raise flap, speed brakes.
This happens quite a lot in smaller planes, you'd be surprised how many pilots forget to put the gear down.
There's a saying that goes around. "If you fly a retractable gear plane it's not a matter of if you'll make a gear up landing so much as a matter of when"
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When selected the Autopilot will make an auto approach. But in this case, the pilot had control the whole way, nothing of that landing was computer controlled. Without having landing gear down, the aircraft still thinks it's in the air, so an auto approach. The B767 isn't as computerized as newer aircraft such as the B777.
My question is why alternate extend didn't work. Normal gear retraction/extension is done through hydraulics. When the gear is stowed during flight, the weight of gear rests on the main gear doors. The main gear door is latched closed with a large hook (door uplock hook), which holds the weight of the door and gear (when stowed). When the alternate system is used, an electric actuator will move a mechanic cable which will unlatch the door uplock hook. The weight of the gear should freefall into the down position, with a little help of airspeed, the gear should be locked down.
There are redundancies built into the system which should have prevented this, but in this case it failed.
It's still a flying computer. Remember a couple years back that airliner that was on CNN news cuz the front gear would't come down and everyone thought everyone was going to die? Surprise, all was well haha.
That's not as hard of a landing as you make it out to seem. Maintain directional control, reverse thrust, raise flap, speed brakes.
This happens quite a lot in smaller planes, you'd be surprised how many pilots forget to put the gear down.
There's a saying that goes around. "If you fly a retractable gear plane it's not a matter of if you'll make a gear up landing so much as a matter of when"
It's still a flying computer. Remember a couple years back that airliner that was on CNN news cuz the front gear would't come down and everyone thought everyone was going to die? Surprise, all was well haha.
That Jetblue airplane was an A320-200. Nose gear did come down and lock, it just failed to rotate the wheel assembly into the proper position.
The B767 isn't a very high tech aircraft. It's more of a hybrid when it comes to computer and mechanical systems. This is in comparison to an aircraft such as the B777 which has computers controlling everything (even the toilets). A lot of the boxes in the B767 are used to monitor sensors. Only a few systems do have computers, such as auto flight, warning electronics, flight controls, engines (depending on model and variants used) to name a few...
The primary operation of the gear system is done through switches, relays, hydraulics, and hydraulic components. The alternate system is through an electrical actuator and mechanical linkages, which unlatches a hook (the rest is gravity).
The pilot would have had warning on approach if he/she did forget to put the gear down. He would get a loud horn, shit load of warning messages displayed on his screens, and lights. It would be pretty evident that something was wrong.
I am a licence and endorsed B767 engineer, so I kind of know a bit of what I am talking about.
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That's not as hard of a landing as you make it out to seem. Maintain directional control, reverse thrust, raise flap, speed brakes.
This happens quite a lot in smaller planes, you'd be surprised how many pilots forget to put the gear down.
There's a saying that goes around. "If you fly a retractable gear plane it's not a matter of if you'll make a gear up landing so much as a matter of when"
It's still a flying computer. Remember a couple years back that airliner that was on CNN news cuz the front gear would't come down and everyone thought everyone was going to die? Surprise, all was well haha.
You cannot maintain directional control once you've touched down nor reverse thrust due to the engine is almost immediately shutdown upon touch down to reduce the likelihood of a fire. In addition, the strobe lights are turned off upon touchdown.
Fact is that the aircraft isn't designed to land on it's engine and hull. It has a skid tail in the back but that's really designed for a over rotation of a pilot.
Newer aircrafts such as the Boeing 777 have FBW limits on this to prevent the pilot from over rotating. Not to mention, the amazing engineering behind the main landing gears to allow rotation on the longer series (777-300/ER).
It is definitely an excellent landing and like we say in the aviation industry, a good landing is one we can walk away.
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