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Old 01-06-2012, 10:23 AM   #51
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They caught the other robber. He was also suffering from gunshot wounds, so it looks like he got hit as well.

A guy at work is from Texas and I asked him about this whole defending your property idea and shooting someone who breaks into your house. He had a very interesting comment.

Basically he said if you shoot someone and kill them, you better make sure they're on your property. If they are, then you're OK as they have no business being on your property, or breaking into your residence. If they're on the street or off your property then you're screwed. That's why they make so many jokes like "don't hit him in the leg and let him get off your property".

The Wendy's manager shot these guys in the street well off the property. You can google map the Wendy's in question and read the police report and you'll see where things went down. Changes the perspective quite a bit.
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Old 01-06-2012, 10:37 AM   #52
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How about you do us a favor and link us to the police report?
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Old 01-06-2012, 10:41 AM   #53
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Found this news report. Suspect caught in Wendy's robbery | Savannahnow.com Mobile

I would copy and paste it but android sucks at that. Sorry.
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Old 01-06-2012, 11:43 AM   #54
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The issue with your logic is that you're justifying vigilantism and advocating that punishments be set and dealt by a single person with a subjective opinion, using one extreme case. If the next time the repeat offended shop lifts, the store keeper is allowed to shoot him and better the world, then by extension it's okay for the shore keeper to also shoot the next teenager who shop lifts a candy bar. It's the same crime, the same punishment, so it's all good, right?

In every modern society, crimes have established punishments to ensure everyone, whether they be a crack heads or teenagers who momentarily wandered down the wrong path, receives a punishment equal to the severity of the crime.

If you want to discuss repeat offenders, then everyone, be they left or right wing, supports tougher sentences to keep them in jail.
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Found this news report. Suspect caught in Wendy's robbery | Savannahnow.com Mobile

I would copy and paste it but android sucks at that. Sorry.
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U.S. Marshals on Wednesday afternoon found the 28-year-old Milledgeville native they say helped rob a Wilmington Island Wendy’s last week.

Ronnie James Holder’s arrest followed a three-county search in central Georgia, according to Capt. Brad King of the Baldwin County sheriff’s office.

King said Holder was suffering from untreated gunshot wounds when he was brought to the Baldwin County jail by U.S. Marshals who’d caught him in a mobile home park just across the county line, in rural Putnam County.

He was taken to Oconee Regional Medical Center’s emergency room with multiple leg wounds, King said, and was being held there under armed guard Wednesday night.

The robbery

Holder is believed to have been shot in the Dec. 29 Wendy’s robbery along with his alleged accomplice, 27-year-old William Martin Clark, whom police say was shot to death by the restaurant’s manager, Robert Cody Dasher, 22.

No charges have been filed against Dasher, but Savannah-Chatham police say they plan to turn the case over to the district attorney’s office for consideration.

Police say Dasher was held up at 12:55 a.m. at the Wendy’s located on U.S. 80 near Johnny Mercer Boulevard.

Dasher was closing the restaurant when the robbery happened, according to a police report. His employee left the door open after taking out the trash. Two men, their faces covered and wearing black, accosted Dasher inside the restaurant, putting a gun to his head, forcing him into an office and robbing him.

The robbers made off with an undisclosed amount of cash, running east toward Johnny Mercer Boulevard. Police say Dasher went for his handgun, shooting Clark, who lived in the 800 block of Wexler Street, in the head in Blue Fin Circle, a commercial drive that runs off U.S. 80 to the Wendy’s.

Dasher told police Clark pointed a pistol at him just before he shot him.

Clark had two $5 bills and a silver revolver in his left hand when he was found dead in the street, police say. A black T-shirt was covering his face.

Bryan Saba, chief operations officer for the Wilmington Island Wendy’s franchise, has said Dasher was not barred from carrying a gun while on duty and will keep his job.

Holder’s record

Baldwin County authorities say they are relieved that Holder is off the street.

“He proliferated in the criminal justice system,” Sheriff William Massee Jr. said.

Massee said Holder was booked 15 times in the Baldwin County jail before he was arrested late Wednesday afternoon.

In August 2010, Holder was released from Dooly State Prison, where he was serving time for a Baldwin County robbery. He also has done prison time for burglary, motor vehicle theft, possession of opiates and second-degree criminal damage to property dating back to 2001. All of those crimes were committed in Putnam and Baldwin counties.

King said he believes Holder moved to Chatham County, where his sister and mother now live, after he was released from prison.

Holder was limping when he was brought into the Baldwin County jail, King said, but did not seem to be seriously injured.

Marshals took him into custody without incident, according to Tommy Long, spokesman for the U.S. Marshals Service.
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Bryan Saba, chief operations officer for the Wilmington Island Wendy’s franchise, has said Dasher was not barred from carrying a gun while on duty and will keep his job.
Wow, surprising.
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Old 01-06-2012, 07:02 PM   #57
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Awesome.

I remember we had a story awhile back where some kid was shot with a crossbow for throwing rocks at some guy's car. While excessive, I would still side with the guy with the crossbow. Don't want to get shot? DON'T DO STUPID SHIT.

So if that kid in MindBomber's example gets shot for shoplifting a candy bar...well, then maybe he shouldn't have stole that candy bar. Look at what they tell you in the NHL. Refs don't always make the right call so what do you do? Don't put yourself in a situation where the ref has to make that decision. Chris Rock said the same thing for black people wanting to avoid the PO-LEECE...well, then OBEY THE LAW.

If society was just and all crimes were fittingly punished, there would be no need for any of this but unfortunately, we live in a world where people get away with it all the time so I've got no problem with someone Batmaning it up. The courts are too bogged down in bureaucracy and procedure rather than just working off common sense. I'm a big fan of making the punishment fit the crime.
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