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Old 01-06-2012, 02:32 PM   #76
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Legally it is an act of tax fraud.

What it saves you costs the rest of us. The restaurant industry grew at a faster pace than housing over the last decade, so they have no excuse for dodging paying their fair share of taxes.
I totally agree with you.

Speaking from personal experience, when it comes to paying for a service whether it be a restaurant, hairdresser or your mechanic, they know what they're doing is wrong but justify it by saying it's to save YOU (the customer) taxes.

Restaurants that only take cash but still charge you sales tax?
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After livin in richmond for 5 years with a girlfriend whos worked at restaurants the whole time I can attest Richmond is full of cheap rude punks. Every friday night for three years while she worked at nan chu she would have more fine examples of cheap rude behavior of fob chicks who cant handle booze and little fob boys thinkin they are Jet Li.
Popped collars true religion jeans foul mouth and lippy drunk puking girlfriends and then short changing or just rounding up to the nearest dollar while the benz is parked right in front. And best of all lets split the bill.
She's now in a more family orientated restaurant in Richmond but now the rude ones are just older more sober and breeding a new generation of rude cheap punks.
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Oh man when your start talking about nan chu, i feel sorry for the owner. Because last time i went there they posted a paper on the wall saying "if you pay by credit card you must sign a paper stating that you went to this restaurant and paid in visa/mastercard." cause those cheap fucks probably called their credit card company saying it was stolen or lost.
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I think it makes just as much sense for a large restaurant to operate on a cash-only premises than a small restaurant. Larger restaurant (usually) equals more transactions. Let's say Ceilis has 300 (a VERY modest estimate) transactions per night, including both drink and food orders. Even with a 6 cent debit charge per transaction, that accumulates to a total of 0.06*300, $18 charge per night, though I'm sure there are many occasions where the debit charge is more than 6 cents. In a month, that's 30*18= $540, a very handsome sum of money. If customers begin using credit cards, that number rises even more dramatically, maybe even up to a couple thousand dollars per month?

My only concern with cash-only restaurants is that it repels customers. Like you, I absolutely disdain carrying cash on me and would prefer to pay everything in credit cards. In the long-run, unless the restaurant is exceptional, people may begin to look for alternative options where creds and debs are accepted.
Larger restaurants mean more customers meaning more profit. How many gas stations do you know that only take cash? Gas stations also
have lower profit margins than restaurants and do a lot more transactions per day. A 1% increase in prices would cover all costs.
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Larger restaurants mean more customers meaning more profit. How many gas stations do you know that only take cash? Gas stations also
have lower profit margins than restaurants and do a lot more transactions per day. A 1% increase in prices would cover all costs.
A %1 price increase during Ceilis Wednesday would result in a $3.30 tequila. If there's one thing I dislike more than bills, it's coins. The nearest dollar increment would raise the price to $4, hence lowering the attractiveness of Ceilis Wednesdays altogether.

Also, I'm pretty sure these multinational gas stations have strict contracts that forbid them from being cash-only businesses, whereas Ceilis is privately owned and therefore it's operation is totally subject to the owner.
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Thought tequila at Ceili's on Wednesdays was $3, a 1% increase would mean it'd be 3.03
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Larger restaurants mean more customers meaning more profit. How many gas stations do you know that only take cash? Gas stations also
have lower profit margins than restaurants and do a lot more transactions per day. A 1% increase in prices would cover all costs.
If a restaurant chooses to be cash only, that's up to them. It's a business decision, weighing the pros and cons of each model.

That's completely different than going to a restaurant, not reading the sign, and then refusing to go to the ATM 3 stores down so you can actually pay the bill.
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If you want to talk about cheap asses. What about the restaurant owner that wont accept debit cards because of a 20 cent or less fee? Now that's being a cheap ass.
Probably only half the reason, the other half is lots of the money isn't going on the books. I'm sure the business losses tons of money every year (on paper).
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the ONLY reason these places are cash only is to hide money. it has nothing to do with paying service fees.

if you actually think its because they dont want to pay those fees then you deserve a
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If a restaurant chooses to be cash only, that's up to them. It's a business decision, weighing the pros and cons of each model.

That's completely different than going to a restaurant, not reading the sign, and then refusing to go to the ATM 3 stores down so you can actually pay the bill.
No one reads signs.
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No one reads signs.
You can't ask? Why assume?
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Jeeezzzz. SOOO embarrassing. At least they will never go back there again..... Hopefully.
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You can't ask? Why assume?
Ask??? 99.9% of places in Canada accept plastic. It's just bad business practice to not accept plastic.
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I agree it's stupid. However, judging by the amount of inexpensive, cash only asian restaurants in Richmond it makes it more or less status quo if that's what you're looking for.
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because its 2012 and not 1994 (interac introduction) or 1920s (when modern credit cards were used)
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One thing that a lot of white places do to nickel-and-dime people is to say "cash or credit only" and then put an ATM at the front. Sure, they lose the 1-3% from credit cards, but they generally add gratuity for groups larger than 6 so it'll all work out in the end...and since the ATM fees from those are $1-2...they probably break even or make money.


Of course, that wouldn't have solved the problem here. I wonder what the full story was.
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After livin in richmond for 5 years with a girlfriend whos worked at restaurants the whole time I can attest Richmond is full of cheap rude punks. Every friday night for three years while.....
too bad thr is not test for CLASS before letting these people in....
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No chance I would've let them go. I'd make them wash ALL the dishes. But then again, I'm just mean.

So you don't want to pay the $1.50 fee so *I* get short-changed a dollar instead? Fuck off.

Actually, I don't know what's worse...restaurants that don't take plastic or idiots that won't pay the ATM fee rather than make a huge fuss about it.

How long did this whole thing take? I'd rather pay the ATM fee than even counting up change.
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"Sorry dear, I don't have $1.00."
"Can you go over to the bank and get some money?"
"No, they charge $1.50 for withdrawls."




Seriously, how the fuck does that conversation go?

Totally absurd.
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At the very least, the guy should go back and give them their dollar plus extra tip.
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..The guy goes back to his gf and mumbles how embarassing this is and they might have to stay to wash the dishes. So then the gf goes up to the manager and starts pleading with her saying "it's only a dollar, can't you just let us go?"..
At least we know the girl's stance on washing dishes
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