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Old 01-06-2012, 06:35 PM   #101
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i would take their cell phone or a watch or something of value as collateral and tell them if you want it back, pay me plus tips cuz it is service and meal given to them
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After livin in richmond for 5 years with a girlfriend whos worked at restaurants the whole time I can attest Richmond is full of cheap rude punks. Every friday night for three years while she worked at nan chu she would have more fine examples of cheap rude behavior of fob chicks who cant handle booze and little fob boys thinkin they are Jet Li.
Popped collars true religion jeans foul mouth and lippy drunk puking girlfriends and then short changing or just rounding up to the nearest dollar while the benz is parked right in front. And best of all lets split the bill.
She's now in a more family orientated restaurant in Richmond but now the rude ones are just older more sober and breeding a new generation of rude cheap punks.
Everytime I eat at out (richmond included) I always add at least 15% tips..... maybe is coz I live in BBY lol
But I agree majority of Chinese are cheap lol. Myself sorta of included.
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Who would stay and wash dishes for being short a dollar..seems like this story was fabricated or exaggarated..smells like bullshit to me
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This happened to me a few times where I did not know, I was stupid to forget I was in FUCKING RICHMOND, the restaurant only takes cash.

I had to walk to nearest ATM to get cash. I don't give a shit about paying a buck or two for ATM fee, but shit it is really really annoying when restaurants only take cash.

I wish there's a law against restaurants and other businesses doing this.

I lived in Toronto for 4 years and I've only seen few places in Markham doing this.

Other places? they all take credit/debit. some places might charge 50cents extra for transactions under certain amount.

I would love to see CRA cracking down all these places in Richmond one day.
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they can choose not to have debit/credit machines and do everything the old school way...
whats bad is if they say cash only and have their abm machines inside the restaurant
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If you want to talk about cheap asses. What about the restaurant owner that wont accept debit cards because of a 20 cent or less fee? Now that's being a cheap ass.
Biggest pet peeve on top of that, all these Chinese places charges tax on the food, but of course, being cash, they keep the tax money for themselves and give whatever they feel they want to the government.
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Biggest pet peeve on top of that, all these Chinese places charges tax on the food, but of course, being cash, they keep the tax money for themselves and give whatever they feel they want to the government.
so which resturant on alexandra should we rat out first to the Revenue agency of Canada?
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If the pizza delivery guy or taxi driver can let you pay debit at your door, there's no excuse for a resturaunt not to.
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This happened to me a few times where I did not know, I was stupid to forget I was in FUCKING RICHMOND, the restaurant only takes cash.

I had to walk to nearest ATM to get cash. I don't give a shit about paying a buck or two for ATM fee, but shit it is really really annoying when restaurants only take cash.

I wish there's a law against restaurants and other businesses doing this.

I lived in Toronto for 4 years and I've only seen few places in Markham doing this.

Other places? they all take credit/debit. some places might charge 50cents extra for transactions under certain amount.

I would love to see CRA cracking down all these places in Richmond one day.
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so which resturant on alexandra should we rat out first to the Revenue agency of Canada?

The CRA is already investigating a lot of places and many have been fined already. I heard a grocery store over in Kelowna got fined ~$100,000 a few months back.
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hello? its called failed reverse psychology trick used for a 3 year old which they are trying to use on the staff.

too bad no picture was taken. cmon people we all have camera phones.
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so which resturant on alexandra should we rat out first to the Revenue agency of Canada?
They're not stupid. I'm pretty sure they have a pretty good idea what kind of "operations" are doing this. Amazing how businesses can have zero net profits at the end of the year and the owner drives a S class. All you have to do is pay a dirty accountant to cook your books.

Anyone been to that small "pet shop" across from Wendy's Richmond (3 road).
Walk in there, have a look at their "store", then go in the back parking lot and feast your eyes of about 500k worth of cars.
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I refuse to support restaurants that are too cheap to give me the option of how I want to pay. I rarely carry cash anymore, so basically they don't want my business. Fuck 'em.
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I think it's not an excuse for big restaurants (no9 for example) to not take CC/debit.

But for smaller restaurant, the CC fee much higher than what you think it is.

The fee averages out about 2.5% of every transaction but it doesn't end there. The CC company will always make the merchant the responsible for any chargeback. My friend's restaurant had chargebacks from $3~$500. And most cases, the customer simply forgot that they went there and filed the chargeback anyway. Those chargebacks eats into profit pretty hard. Many merchants simply stopped taking CC to save trouble. I believe now with the introduction of chip-based CC, the situation could become better.

But all in all... fuck visa and MC for their crazy fees...
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too bad no picture was taken. cmon people we all have camera phones.

By who? By people in line? How trashy would that be.

I think it'd be inappropriate to make someone's embarrassment public by snapping a camera phone pic of them trying to round up nickels and dimes to pay their bill.


Alternatively, I was at Lougheed Mall once with a friend of mine and we were in a shop. The Asian woman ahead of us was demanding (literally demanding, yelling and everything) a 20% discount on something and holding up the line.

The person behind the counter was unable to do so and nobody else was on shift so a line began to form. Not only was it frustrating to the employee but to myself and the people behind me. It was cutting into my time so I got pissed off.

I can be a rude guy at times (see my username) so I ripped into the woman. I kept berating her until she stepped out of line, red faced and spitting vitriol in a language I didn't understand. It wasn't about ethnicity or cultural differences, it was about her attitude and her sense of entitlement. It was about her robbing people of their day because she wanted a few extra pennies in her pocket.

The worst thing is that she thought she could get away with it because shes probably done it before.
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I think it's not an excuse for big restaurants (no9 for example) to not take CC/debit.

But for smaller restaurant, the CC fee much higher than what you think it is.

The fee averages out about 2.5% of every transaction but it doesn't end there. The CC company will always make the merchant the responsible for any chargeback. My friend's restaurant had chargebacks from $3~$500. And most cases, the customer simply forgot that they went there and filed the chargeback anyway. Those chargebacks eats into profit pretty hard. Many merchants simply stopped taking CC to save trouble. I believe now with the introduction of chip-based CC, the situation could become better.

But all in all... fuck visa and MC for their crazy fees...
If you swipe the card and beep the receipt copies charge backs should not be a problem. If you manually type in the credit card numbers thenm you can have problems.
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When i'm at a cash only establishment, especially in Richmond, I always ask for a receipt. Usually its just printed off the machine with no restaurant name, date, etc., but its nice to see the people squirm and try to come up with excuses.
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If you want to talk about cheap asses. What about the restaurant owner that wont accept debit cards because of a 20 cent or less fee? Now that's being a cheap ass.
you understand all those transactions add up. Plus you need to take into account acquiring the machine, running it, doing the additional work involved with running it (print receipts, etc.) buying more paper for the machine, etc. etc. There are a lot of underlying costs that you need to take into account. Not to mention when you do cash only some places have an incentive to lie on their income taxes which is another benefit to cash only.

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If you swipe the card and beep the receipt copies charge backs should not be a problem. If you manually type in the credit card numbers thenm you can have problems.
CC companies usually side with the customer. Unless you stand there every time and watch the customer sign the receipt and match it exactly everytime, you will end up with chargebacks. I've worked in retail stores which had a policy of taking down DL numbers and writing them on the back of receipts of large transactions - and CC companies will still chargeback on the card and refuse to pay.
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There could be several reasons why a place doesn't take CC and it's not always for tax evasion.

Many gas stations in US takes cash only while offering the lowest price around. There's one right before Bellingham's airport.

So, for those claiming that stores are simply too cheap to have CC/debit, think about this, nothing comes free. Whatever cost the merchant has to take, it will get transferred to consumers.

So, essentially, whenever you use your CC, it means you are paying to the merchant as well as banks, or think it as a private tax.
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There could be several reasons why a place doesn't take CC and it's not always for tax evasion.

Many gas stations in US takes cash only while offering the lowest price around. There's one right before Bellingham's airport.

So, for those claiming that stores are simply too cheap to have CC/debit, think about this, nothing comes free. Whatever cost the merchant has to take, it will get transferred to consumers.

So, essentially, whenever you use your CC, it means you are paying to the merchant as well as banks, or think it as a private tax.
Fact is most places that take cash only are not declaring all there income, not all but the Lions share.
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