neither of you guys were there, so continually arguing about who's assumptions are closer to reality is really pointless, no?

this is all we have to go on unless you have some sort of psychic powers? ... you're really nit picking here and driving away from the point of the k9 shredding a guys leg and using whatever information we the public have to come to our conclusions..


<< maybe you're blind but i can see a far distance in a straight line ;) you want to argue what "out of sight" can be? really?

was the OPCC report released? and again this point here of speaking of the length of the tracking leash will open up a whole slew of other arguments and speculation but it doesnt change the concern that the officer needlessly let his dog loose on a suspect a suspect who for all we know was merely a citizen fitting the description of a vandal (again i'll repeat we don't know if the officer witnessed the vandalism and there are no indications that he did and some to the contrary)


just admit you probably misunderstood and blew your top like 7seven did Or, As i've said, I could have been unclear

StylinRed, stop using the skater's account as a factual evidence. The kid can easily make biased information or straight-up lies.

But really, I am sick of the try hard thug-wannabes with their 'rebellious' "fuck the police or fight the power" attitudes. When the law comes down on them, they proceed to suck on their thumbs and cry foul and act like a hapless victim.

Damn, I guess I should watch my mouth.. Probably gonna get shot next time I do something stupid.

Oh I didn't misunderstand or "blew my top", I think most on this site would actually know me as one of the more clam/rational members here. I like many others here just got tired of seeing you post one sided conclusions/statements based on a vague statement by Mr. Evans/PIVOT side of the events. I just posted another possible conclusion one can deduce from that same exact Evans/PIVOT statement.

if you did you would have noted the times i said "assume" & "based on whats known" & where i conceded it may turn out to be completely different but you took my comments like i was presenting them as facts ive known ye since celicagrage days and i agree thats why i categorized it under "blew my top" because its very unlike you :P

based on what info we had at the time; you just didnt like it ;)


not really but sure :P

According to vpd twitter they will be having a press conference at 1030 today addressing their policy, training and the civil suit.
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VPD press conference and statement
VPD Police Dog Training and Policy | Vancouver Police Department

Transit surveillance footage of Evans on youtube from news1130, for those that don't want to watch the entire press conference link above

around the 23:00 mark in this link for zoomed in version of transit surveillance footage Skateboarder apprehended by Police Dog updateon Vancouver Police - live streaming video powered by Livestream

Other comments made by Deputy Chief Constable Adam Palmer during presser:
-Officer Lee had Mr. Evans' in custody within under a minute
-on Mr. Evans' claim he had headphones in, Palmer didn't know if he did or not but commented that Officer Lee pulled into the dark lane with his vehicle lights and sirens on, sirens turned off but even if subject had headphones in would've seen police lights in dark alley.


After hearing the VPDs side and their incident report, personally I'm skeptical of Mr. Evans' claim that he did not know officers were behind him, you would have to be pretty deaf or really have volume cranked up really high not to hear a siren directly behind you, and you would surely be able to see the the blue/red lights lighting up the alley even if you couldn't hear, but Mr. Evans kept running.

After viewing the transit footage, it does not appear he just took a swing at the bus out of frustration, that looked like pretty malicious intent to do harm and damage. Now I do agree the result of his injuries were pretty severe for his crime but it is of my opinion that he was fleeing and didn't want to be caught for his crime, again this is just my opinion. Struggling with the police dog just made his injuries worst, yes I know its not easy to remain calm when a dog is biting you (I have been bit by a military service dog in training exercises), but it is possible and to stop struggling which will in most cases cause the dog and handler to release.

Could the officer handled the arrest in another method? Absolutely, however it was his judgement call on site and it would appear that all proper protocol and procedures were followed.

With that said, the guys a retard as he would have seen the lights. Very questionable that a dog was required but can't fault the officer for following procedure.
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And now ....the rest of the story...Glad VPD decided to squash this with the facts of what really happened. And Pivot is saying..................................?

The Sun has the bus video:

Vancouver police fight back over police dog bite lawsuit (video)

The guy is a tard, he hits the bus several times. Hopefully the keyboard warriors supporting this thug change their tune after seeing the video.

Common sense just screams that the "headphones" excuse as a reason why he wasn't complying immediately is so sketch to the core.

Who skateboards down a busy stretch of pavement with music blasting loud enough that you're oblivious to your environment. What if it was a car horn honking you from behind? What if it was a cyclist ringing you from behind? Do you not notice all the people you pass looking with bewilderment at you and the dog & cop chasing you?

It's quite amusing and sad at the same time when you see people just eating all the media spin up as fact without applying their own common sense into it. Unless he's a complete moron (which I doubt his ego will allow him to admit if he were) there's no way he was realistically unaware of his progressing situation at the time of the incident.

+1.

After watching the video, I'm always happy to see tough guy wannabe's with the "don't fuck with me" attitude get humbled.

I welcome the fails but Evans totally fucking deserves ALL his injuries. The only thing that sucks... is that Vancouver is full of those "don't fuck with me" assholes.

i'd actually be interested in hearing their response to this...

The man's a 33 year-old 'sk8er boi', I'd be more surprised if he didn't have that attitude :lawl:

This fucktard should be thankful he didn't win the Darwin award. Let's repeatedly smash on the bus window in public and stick around for good minutes. Then when an officer of the law with sirens and lights say stop or he would send the dog, this monkey keep running away.

Add your meme:
http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/6058165.bin

Probably the same deafening silence we heard out of them after the VPD shooting splashed back at them.

oh after watching the video, that's pure karma for what he did

i get angry but i don't become an idiot and do that type of shit, all of his injuries he deserves

at first i thought he smashed just a store window and ran away, didn't read carefully

you do stupid shit, it comes around to bite you :fuckthatshit:

Cameras don't lie :fuckyea:

To start off, let me be clear that I'm not on this idiot skater's side (I'd be the last person). But to play devil's advocate a bit, the Translink security video I saw only shows what we already know; that this idiot smashed a bus window. It doesn't show what is in dispute (ie: the following arrest made by the PSD and dog handler). It's a he said/she said issue right now. But, based on what we've seen, I'm sure a majority of people would choose to side with the police just based on the skater's prior actions.
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I feed bad for the people who were on the bus, they were all probably shitting their pants thinking some crazy guy was trying to smash his way onto to bus, potentially harming them.

If the dog tearing apart this guy's leg was excessive, I don't know.

What I DO know, is that I definately don't feel bad for him at all anymore.

An example of karma coming back to bite you, literally.

According the original article - he claims that 3 buses drove past him. I don't know where he was standing if they drove past him, because this bus was definitely stopped at the bus stop. If he is lying about this, I wouldn't be surprised if he's lying about other details.