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Old 03-19-2012, 10:10 AM   #1
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All your stuffs is belong to US

And by US I mean Obama. LOLZ

The Obama Administration: All Your Privacy And All Your Stuff Belong To Us
Did you know that the federal government claims that it can take away your constitutional rights any time that it wants to? Over the past several decades, there have been an endless parade of laws and executive orders that have been slowly and methodically carving up our rights under the U.S. Constitution. Most Americans are not even aware of the "creeping totalitarianism" that is happening. Most Americans just trust the "authorities" when they tell us that certain things "must be done" in order to keep us all safe. But even if we gave up all of our privacy, even if we gave up all of our liberties and our freedoms, and even if we gave the government all of our stuff they still would not be able to keep us safe. It is inevitable that evil people are going to do evil things, and if you are counting on the Obama administration to keep you safe then you are being delusional. Obama is not going to save us from anything. But Obama will gladly take away our rights and our freedoms if the American people allow him to. The Obama administration seems to have an endless lust for more power. Sadly, if we do give away our rights it will have some very serious consequences. If we freely give away all of the rights that we have been given under the U.S. Constitution it will be incredibly difficult to ever get them back. Giving up liberty for security never works, and if we want to be worthy of being called Americans then we need to start standing up for the republic that our forefathers worked so hard to build.

An executive order that Barack Obama signed the other day is making headlines all over the nation. The title of the executive order is "National Defense Resources Preparedness" and it is actually an update of a series of previous executive orders.

The original "National Defense Resources Preparedness" executive order (EO 8248) was issued back in 1939. This latest version is very similar to EO 12919 that was signed by Bill Clinton in June 1994. However, several very important changes have been made in this new version.

For example, in Section 201(b) the words "under both emergency and non-emergency conditions" have been added.

So now the federal government can take control of all food, all energy, all health resources, all transportation resources and "all other materials, services, and facilities" in the country even if the United States is not experiencing emergency conditions.

Not that the Obama administration really needed to put that in there. After all, the U.S. government has been operating under a constant state of national emergency since September 14, 2001.

So the Obama administration did not really need to include a new excuse for taking control of everything. The existing "state of emergency" would probably work just fine.

If Barack Obama woke up one day and decided to exercise the powers in this executive order, he would be able to do pretty much anything that he wanted. This executive order would essentially allow Obama to declare a state of martial law in the United States even during a time when no emergency was happening.

Just check out what Section 201 of the executive order allows the federal government to take control of....

Sec. 201. Priorities and Allocations Authorities. (a) The authority of the President conferred by section 101 of the Act, 50 U.S.C. App. 2071, to require acceptance and priority performance of contracts or orders (other than contracts of employment) to promote the national defense over performance of any other contracts or orders, and to allocate materials, services, and facilities as deemed necessary or appropriate to promote the national defense, is delegated to the following agency heads:

(1) the Secretary of Agriculture with respect to food resources, food resource facilities, livestock resources, veterinary resources, plant health resources, and the domestic distribution of farm equipment and commercial fertilizer;

(2) the Secretary of Energy with respect to all forms of energy;

(3) the Secretary of Health and Human Services with respect to health resources;

(4) the Secretary of Transportation with respect to all forms of civil transportation;

(5) the Secretary of Defense with respect to water resources; and

(6) the Secretary of Commerce with respect to all other materials, services, and facilities, including construction materials.
So should we be worried?

Bush and Clinton did not exercise these powers.

Perhaps Obama will not either.

Yes, perhaps he will not.

But they are there.

And someday they will be used.

The Obama administration also continues to make shocking claims regarding our privacy.

According to the 4th Amendment, our homes are not supposed to be searched unless there is probably cause....

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
But according to CIA director David Petraeus, the American people are willingly bugging their own homes by choosing to use modern gadgets, and the CIA plans to use these technologies to spy on you. Petraeus recently said the following about the "transformational" impact these new technologies will have on the ability of the CIA to spy on the American people...

"Items of interest will be located, identified, monitored, and remotely controlled through technologies such as radio-frequency identification, sensor networks, tiny embedded servers, and energy harvesters — all connected to the next-generation internet using abundant, low-cost, and high-power computing"
The kind of chips that Petraeus was referring to will soon be in nearly all new appliances. As a recent Daily Mail article noted, we will soon see an "Internet of things" emerge where virtually every electronic device is connected to the Internet....

This week, one of the world's biggest chip companies, ARM, has unveiled a new processor built to work inside 'connected' white goods.


The ARM chips are smaller, lower-powered and far cheaper than previous processors - and designed to add the internet to almost every kind of electrical appliance.


It's a concept described as the 'internet of things'.

Futurists think that one day 'connected' devices will tell the internet where they are and what they are doing at all times - and will be mapped by computers as precisely as Google Maps charts the physical landscape now.
But we are not going to have to wait for the future for the federal government to use the Internet to spy on us all.

As I have written about previously, the FBI, the CIA, the Department of Homeland Security, the U.S. military and the Federal Reserve are all using Facebook and Twitter to monitor the American people.

If you post this article to Facebook and Twitter, multiple agencies of the federal government will have a record of it.

In fact, the truth is that every single phone call, every single email, every single Facebook post and pretty much every other kind of electronic communication that you can imagine is monitored by intelligence agencies. Don't ever assume that anything you say on your phone or on the Internet is private.

And now, even your ISP will be spying on you to make sure that you are not downloading any copyrighted material.

Yes, that is right.

A clandestine deal coordinated by the Obama administration will go into effect on July 12th. The following is from a recent Raw Story article....

If you download potentially copyrighted software, videos or music, your Internet service provider (ISP) has been watching, and they’re coming for you.

Specifically, they’re coming for you on Thursday, July 12.

That’s the date when the nation’s largest ISPs will all voluntarily implement a new anti-piracy plan that will engage network operators in the largest digital spying scheme in history, and see some users’ bandwidth completely cut off until they sign an agreement saying they will not download copyrighted materials.

Word of the start date has been largely kept secret since ISPs announced their plans last June. The deal was brokered by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) and the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA), and coordinated by the Obama Administration.
So be careful what you are doing on the Internet.

Your ISP will be watching it all.

Even local police departments are "pushing the envelope" when it comes to surveillance technology. For example, the NYPD is working on technology that will be able to see a gun inside your clothes from a distance of 80 feet away....

The reason that the NYPD is so interested terahertz waves is that they pass through nonconductive materials like clothes, but can’t penetrate metal — like, say, the steel in a semi-automatic pistol. That means if you scan someone, you can look for spots where a person’s natural terahertz radiation is blocked, most likely by a metal object.

The benefits for police officers are obvious. They can essentially sit back in a specially-equipped van and scan anyone they suspect of carrying a gun from a safe distance. Right now it only works from three or four feet away, but department spokesman Paul J. Browne told the New York Times that the NYPD — in coordination with the Department of Defense — hopes to increase its range to 25 meters, or 82 feet.
Unfortunately, there are dozens of other new technologies like this. For 14 more examples of how the government is watching us, just check out this article.

Most Americans assume that these technologies will only be used against "terrorists", but that simply is not the case.

For example, a man living in Burnsville, Minnesota was recently subjected to "electronic home monitoring" for not having the proper siding on his home....

A Burnsville man on his way to work was arrested and thrown in jail without bond, and then subjected to electronic home monitoring.

But it wasn’t for drugs or a DWI or some other major crime.

Burnsville city leaders say Mitch Faber’s dealings with the law all stem from his failure to properly put up siding on his house.

Yep, siding.
Sadly, the truth is that the United States is rapidly being turned into a high-tech Big Brother prison grid dominated by control freak bureaucrats who do not care about our liberties and freedoms.

This is not the way that America is supposed to work.

We are supposed to be the land of the free and the home of the brave.

Has that dream been lost forever, or will we get it back someday?
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Every time I see a Death2Theft thread I think "Aww. Its really special that they give the mentally handicapped access to the Internet"
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I guess in this day and age if it takes the mentally handicapped to bring up issues that matter then that would make blind yuppies < mentally handicapped?
So go to your silly car meets and enjoy your porn because this kinda stuff could never happen in Canada! Hey if someone wants to search you or look into your computer, no biggy right? You've got nothing to hide. Heck they may even reduce your bandwidth until you sign an no pirating agreement, sheeet who needs bandwidth if you can't dl copyright materials? Oh wait.... Or maybe the fact that under non emergency situations they can take away your transportation... wait retard thinking cap on.... does that mean your CAR?
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The United States is done and is currently planning on how to maintain the role of government during the impending citizen revolt.

And by "role of gov't" I mean the system whereby a vast number of rich white men, with a few tokens thrown in for the multi-culturally inspired brochure gets to maintain a job where they choose their own salary, put laws in place to protect other rich white men to become fucking whiter and richer and keep the rest of the world under the heal of the great and wonderful United States of America. Beautiful fucking system. Create fake money out of thin air and make damned sure that everyone believes it to be true.

Wow. I am bitter on the Americans today
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Two things:

1) The United States of America =/= Canada

2) Piracy is already illegal. The reason you don't sign an agreement not to pirate is because your ISP is assuming you're not going to pirate media, the same way they're assuming you're not going to view child pornography.


Also, bonus third point: (Because I'm not certain you got it the first time)

3) Canada =/= USA
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Honestly... TL;DR.

I'm assuming that it says theres some law that tracks you on the internet and if you're infringing on copyrighted content, the government can take your stuff?

If you're going to post a huge link at least do up a synopsis. Maybe even put in some of your own opinion to add something to the article.
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It could never happen here this is Canada!!! Then again who would have thought that CHINA would have modeled a new law under the US NDAA act to secretly disappear people into the night? I mean it's not like Harper isn't in the US's pocket nor would he have signed any laws that allow the US police/fed/military to operate in canada to "strengthen" the northern borders from terrorists.

So go back to your little world and think everything is safe and sound. Keep your eyes closed and continue chanting "it could never happen here"
What does crack me up is why people need to post TL: DR. So just becaused you typed five letters you want me to do a cliff notes for you? FUCK OFF. If it's too fucking long then hit the back button and go to the nws section already.
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1) The United States of America =/= Canada

2) Piracy is already illegal. The reason you don't sign an agreement not to pirate is because your ISP is assuming you're not going to pirate media, the same way they're assuming you're not going to view child pornography.


Also, bonus third point: (Because I'm not certain you got it the first time)

3) Canada =/= USA
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So go back to your little world and think everything is safe and sound. Keep your eyes closed and continue chanting "it could never happen here"

Thats not the point I was making. You've posted a wall of text from a website called "The end of the American dream"

If you want to really reach Revscene's members, don't tell us whats going on south of the border. Tell us whats going on up here. Find local content instead of rehashing the things you read on ATS or those other tinfoil hat sites.

Besides. Its an opinion piece with no sources to it's content. I could write a four page essay on the benefits of cocaine enemas but it doesn't necessarily make it true.
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We are no longer free with anything we do because someone is always watching us no matter what it is.
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A bunch of national defense acts that were signed during WW II/Cold War era haven't been repealed, and post-911 more of these acts have been created under the banner of anti-terrorism. They could restrict certain Americans civil liberties based on their actions (or the perception of their actions)

Also, a group of private companies are coming together to create a code of conduct for the customers of their industry (Internet access providers)
And another private corporation is creating internet access for your fridge, your stove, and your toilet.
All of these point to you being spied on in your home by the government.

Also, police are evil and a man was arrested without cause for not fixing up his home.







TL;DR - If you're not breaking the law. You don't have anything to worry about.
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-Death2Theft mentally handicapped.
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-Article says that US citizens are getting screwed and soon will be in a totalitarian country.
-US government is slowly taking over by passing small laws to take over citizens control.

@Death2Theft: Since 9/11, the US has been completely FUCKED in the head. Full body scanners are bad enough in airports, but making 1 that is mobile and can scan anyone up to 82 feet.. I wonder how much cancer that thing gives off.. FUCK!

Up here in Canada we don't protest.. but I can see HUGE RIOTS if it ever actually happened down there.. practically 80% of US citizens own a gun. Shit could hit the fan pretty quick.
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To counter what his argument will inevitably be:

That link DOES have embedded links to "sources" but, to be honest, its like reading The DaVinci Code.

A bunch of barely related articles and wikipedia articles have come together to create a perfect storm of totalitarian rule in the United States.

Basically, someone has taken a few patchwork articles written on various topics, thrown in their own conjecture, and created a paranoid patchwork condemning "the man"
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Well if Obama signing it isn't enough of a source for you then keep on being ignorant. Even if Obama doesn't directly misuse these laws thats he's changing the next guy down the line could.
It's like if Harper were to sign a law saying the gov has the power to take away your property, then after signing it he says "dont worry I wont use it". Then what the F is the point of signing it? Obviously it's for the ability to abuse it down the road. Yet people are willing to sit back and be all chill like yeah he signed it and didn't use it. Everything is still ok!
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Thats not the point I was making. You've posted a wall of text from a website called "The end of the American dream"

If you want to really reach Revscene's members, don't tell us whats going on south of the border. Tell us whats going on up here. Find local content instead of rehashing the things you read on ATS or those other tinfoil hat sites.

Besides. Its an opinion piece with no sources to it's content. I could write a four page essay on the benefits of cocaine enemas but it doesn't necessarily make it true.
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Let's sum up here, because this stuff comes up quite a bit on RS. There are 3 groups of "new scary laws" that get people all riled up.

1. Someone wants to impede the masses from downloading some big budget piece of shit movie because they paid to write, produce, film and market the movie and for some reason people seem to think that this was done to be distributed over the internet for free because you pay for access to the internet.

That becomes Big Brother is on your ass watching every move you make.

2. Someone wants to restrict access to weed.

That's just Big Brother being a prude.

3. Every other law that they come up with.

The entire rest of the lot gets grouped together, and people are concerned, but heaven forbid that someone wants to stop people from stealing over the internet.

There are all kinds of laws that just make the hairs stick up on the back of my neck but none of them get people concerned like the idea of government connecting up with big business to stop piracy.

There are laws being debated right now in state legislatures that effectively compare a woman to the breeding potential of a cow.

Soraya Chemaly: 10 Reasons the Rest of the World Thinks the U.S. Is Nuts

There are all kinds of things going on in the states right now that are shocking and scary and the least of my concerns are the government turning off the taps on downloading last nights "House".
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I’ve received a number of e-mails and comments about an Executive Order signed by Obama on Friday, titled National Defenses Resources Preparedness, and what it means.

It appears that this Executive Order is an update of prior Executive Orders signed in 1988 and 1994 which elaborate similar powers in time of war or national emergency. The 1994 Order in particular was not limited to national emergency:

The United States must have an industrial and technology base capable of meeting national defense requirements, and capable of contributing to the technological superiority of its defense equipment in peacetime and in times of national emergency.

Now I’ve not redlined the various versions, and if someone wants to make the argument that this is an expansion of presidential powers, then do so based on actual language.

There is enough that Obama actually does wrong without creating claims which do not hold up to scrutiny.

I’m not ruling out the possibility that this is more than it seems, but unless and until someone does more than merely state that martial law is coming, I’ll consider this to be routine.

Update: Ed Morrissey has more history of such Orders and reaches a similar conclusion.
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Indeed — but all of that was equally true before Obama issued an update to a 73-year-old effort that changed nothing about his executive authority and power. To the extent that we’re all more aware of it, that’s good, but we shouldn’t act as though this was an Obama novelty, and we really shouldn’t jump to conspiracy-think conclusions without understanding the history of these EOs.
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Six years ago we warned readers that Google was planning to use the ambient background noise of a person’s environment to spy on their activities in order to direct targeted advertising at them through technological devices. That has now come to fruition with the search engine giant filing a petition for “Advertising based on environmental conditions.”


“As that title implies, it’s not just background sounds that could be used to determine what adverts you seen on your mobile phone. The patent also describes using ‘temperature, humidity, light and air composition’ to produced targeted adverts,” reports the Daily Mail.

In other words, Google is going to spy on your private conversations, music preferences, TV watching habits, your choice of radio station, and whatever else is happening in your immediate environment, in order to build a psychological profile of your entire life.

The current patent relates to smart phones, but any Inter-connected device could ultimately be used for the same purpose.
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The entire article screams of second amendment worshiping, excessively paranoid, Americanism.

The entire issue can be simply surmised as the American government being one of the most poorly managed among all advanced societies, and the American population largely being a personification of the degradation of society that has occurred worldwide over the last two centuries.
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