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PS, I love how SkinnyDick fails me for respectfully throwing my opinion out there.

Please answer this. If you're born with no ovaries, a dick, and a pair of balls, are you still considered a female? And as a straight male, (I think?) would you still fuck it?

inb4 Skinny fails this post without answering any of these questions

Hey, it's a guy who became a woman. I honestly don't know what to call it. Obviously I'm not gonna just keep referring to "Tranny"

If I say guy, it's incorrect because he's now a woman.
If I say girl, it's incorrect because he was a man.

"It" seems fitting.

Besides, it was known as "the IT from Windemere" to the people of Richmond.



I don't have a problem with gay marriages, incest, whatever social abnormality that society can throw at me.

But if you see 2 heterosexual people making out on the street, we think:" fuck, that's digusting, GO GET A ROOM", so how is it different when it's 02 people of the same sex tongue wrestling. Don't be so open about it. I have some gay friends, they're pretty cool, but I'd feel uncomfortable with them licking each others faces off in front of me.



I see your point, and I guess it would be cool, but in Thailand, they have a Miss Tiffany pageant just for trannys, so why wouldn't it compete in a pageant more fitting.

They have all sorts of pageants for all sorts of people, so I just think it's best if people didn't go against the grain, it sends the wrong message sometimes.

Whoa whoa whoa, back up a few steps here......You don't have a problem with incest!?!? Are you shitting me!?!?!? :heckno:......


I'm waiting for some responses to this...seemed like the thread died down a bit after I made this post....

I think this is the key part of the article

"Denis Davila, the national director of Miss Universe Canada, says she was dropped from the competition because the rules state contestants must be "naturally born female" and that she lied on her application. "

You don't even understand the point I'm trying to make. I don't even need to say much to you, you can't even fully comprehend and analyze what's being said before running your mouth.

Nice to know you only took out bits and pieces out of my GRAY argument and generalized me as bad person.

Unfortunately, people like you will always exist.

I don't have a problem with ANYTHING, as long as people aren't affecting other people with their pursuit of happiness.

You do know what happens when incest leads to reproduction, right?...

You call that being respectful? You are missing the whole point that being born "with a dick" is not the same as being born a male or female. You know that but decided to vomit up your disrespectful post, that's why it got a fail. The fact that you actually think you were being "respectful" makes it a double fail and is completely :fulloffuck:

Japan happens. Or any small or isolated population group on earth in the last 2 million years or so. Your point?

Okay, sorry..I should have said "she's technically born a guy." Which is true.

Whatever, there's no right or wrongs, it's all personal feelings/opinions.

Are you being serious??.....Do you have any idea how much the chances of diseases/disorders increase through inbreeding??.....

If I don't understand the point you're trying to make, that's entirely on you. Most everyone who has read your posts would agree that you are homophobic and intolerant, so clearly that's the impression you conveyed.

You're telling me that you're uncomfortable with watching people make out, I don't understand how being gay or transgender has anything to do with it. The fact that you refer to being gay as a social abnormality is also quite telling.

Here's one very simple fact.

If you refuse to refer to her as her, despite knowing she's gone through an intense series of operations, hormone therapy and most importantly, has mentally identified female from birth, your're intolerant. All of us know she was born male, but choose to accept that she identifies as female given the lengths she has gone through to achieve that status. I'd like to like in a world where all people are accepted for who they believe they are, instead of imposing society's perceptions onto them...

In her position, how would you feel to be classified as an it? or referred to as a tranny?

Don't hide behind science, because justifying referring to her as an "it" through those means sounds no different than saying being gay is unnatural since we're genetically not programmed for it.

You guys keep saying "mentally identified female at birth"...wtf does that even mean?? Who is identifying the individual as mentally female??

yes.... DOWN WITH SCIENCE!!!! lol considering u're avatar i wonder if you're trolling lol




back on topic.. Conan O'Brien was even talking about this story tonight he made a joke about the producers figuring out that she was a male when they saw her talent was called 'hide the penis'

Do you know what inbreeding even is?

She self identifies as female.

In her mind, she is and has always been female and was simply born into the wrong body.

I'm glad at least one person recognizes the man in my avatar.

I'm not saying down with science and never would. Science has almost all the answers, but not everything is clearly defined enough for technical definitions and mathematical formulas to provide the answer. Human sexuality certainly fits into that category.

The best example I can think of is referring to someone who is gay in a derogatory manner, because humans did not evolve to attempt a reproductive activity with another person of the same gender. Human sexuality happens to be something conventional science is not able to map.

Okay, so you have stated that "she" mentally identified "herself" as a female at birth...So when "she" came out of "her" mother's womb, "she" identified "herself" as a female? Is that what you are telling me?...

You're finally starting to get it! Of course you can't ask a newborn if they think they are male or female, but if you could, then yes, she would have said female.

How is that possible when children don't even start to develop a sense of being a male or female until the age of around 2-3??.....

At the point where gender identity was established, she identified as female, not male, despite being born into a male body.

I don't think that's something that the majority of people can relate too, and often times being able to relate to something can be a prerequisite to understanding it. I can relate to the feeling, since I have a more feminine than masculine personality, although I'm quite happy physically being male.

Gotchya; Also found this wiki article which explains it a lot better: Gender identity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

i cant imagine all those people in the past hiding that all their lives out of fear.