couple of my girl friends know him.. went from gay to wanting to make a full transition to woman..

apparently he was already popular on youtube for doing some sort of comedy skits and how to applying make up, now he is documenting his transitional phase from taking estrogen pills, to legally changing the name from john to julie to getting his adams apple remove to the eventual surgery to be a full woman

Would it be considered discrimination if they had a rule "naturals only, no boob job, plastic surgery, etc."?

Why should anyone who is surgically altered be able to compete in a beauty pagent of any sort?
Lets allow steroids into the Olympics then.
He is now a she and that shouldnt be the issue. The issue is "enhancement" and accepting that in such an event has serious reprocusions.
I wouldnt want my kid growing up thinging she needs her lips injected full of shit to look more feminine nor would I want her to feel she needs a tit job for the same reasons.
Women more and more are being turned into cartoon characters because of media influence.
The most beautiful woman in the universe should be natural there is no place in the body for plastic.
Otherwise lets change it to "Miss Universe with the deepest pockets and biggest body kit"

Olympics is base on performance not looks. Maybe you can say that for bodybuilding competitions. As for gays lesbian transgender and etc media has a huge part on influencing how people turning in these things. You cannot have a competition discriminating girls who are plastic. Life is unfair, deal with it.

As for girls whos done up plastic and guys fall for them expect to have a baby who does not look anything like their mother :troll:

you're talking about respect and then you say something like that? are you serious or are just trying to be a fucking asshole trying to be funny?

^ I don't think he was trying to be disrespectful at all??

You're not comprehending Skinny's post, not even a little.

in case it hasn't been mentioned earlier in the thread, sex and gender are different. You can be biologically male (sex), but identify as a female (gender). Two different things. This is how people can 'identify' with being one or the other gender. Gender is a social construct, it's open to interpretation. Sex, however, is not (until you get a physical sex change).

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what??

lol if you didn't say "there is an international beauty pageant for transexuals" i would've just thought you posted a pic of a girl and decided to troll all of us

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I'm actually a bit confused too....As far as I know, incest that results in offspring is a form of inbreeding......This significantly increases the risk of birth defects....It's simple genetics.....Am I wrong??

For those of you who thinks a transexual can be considered as any other female, you still haven't answered any of my proposed questions. I would like to hear your thoughts.

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so has this become the official tranny thread now? lol wow

a full transition video

this thread reminds me back when Asian_XL would post up pictures of trannies and get our dicks all confused.

I wouldn't definitively answer no to any of the questions you posed, but to answer whether I would or date/marry a transgender person would require serious consideration. If she were convincingly female it would be a possibility, the lower surgery would be a prerequisite.

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Props to you though.

It would be a no for me.

Especially if things get serious and I start thinking about a future, it is important for me that I am biologically and sexually able to reproduce children with my partner the "natural" way, for the lack of a better term.

From today's entensity post:

Teacher: "Who can use the word trainee in a sentence?"
Little Johnny: "ME ME ME!"
Before the teacher could stop him, little Johnny went ahead.
"The trainee looked like a girl, but had a monster cock."

I doubt you'll find many people willing to talk openly about the porn they watch, no matter what the "subject". The prevalence of transexual porn should answer your first question though. The others are dependant on the situation and preferences. I know some transgendered people who get married and their husbands never know. Hell it's entirely possible that you or someone you know slept with a tg without knowing.

SkinnyPupp...help me out on this one...

Totally true, I bet a certain percentage of people who read my response to TRDood's question would interpret my answer as evidence that I'm either homosexual or have leanings towards it, which would be inaccurate. If anything, I might have leanings towards pansexuality.

I can give you somewhat of an explanation.

Any isolated population, be it Japan, Iceland, Myanmar, Cuba or countless others, has a limited influx of new genetics patterns into the population. Over a period of time, even in a relatively large population, strangers will have genetic patterns equivalent to that of distant cousins, this case in the countries I gave above. Over time the genetic relationships between all members of the population will become even closer, strangers would be the equivalent of close cousins. The result is an increase in the prevalence of genetic diseases as time passes, but truly massive genetic issues like deformities would take a great deal of time in populations with relatively large genetic bases. Cousins legally can, and more often than one would expect, do, marry and have healthy children.

A good historical example of this are the monarchies of Europe, every relationship of the aristocracy in Europe to produce a child for nearly a millennium were at least cousins, since people didn't marry outside of their own class. For the most part the children born to those pairings were relatively healthy though, because it takes multiple generations for the gene pool to be sufficiently narrowed for major issues to begin arising.

Thanks mb, I was talking about the issue with a friend during my last japan trip. Couldn't have said it better myself ;)

This is why it's kind of cool that invasions took place. Japan and England weren't totally isolated.

:considered: hmm.. I'm in full support to being whatever/whoever you want to be but the only problem I see is people not telling/letting the other person know he/she is a man or women before.. I think the main point that it breaks down to for me is can she have my children.. (naturally not surgically)

Surgically have your children? Wtf does that even mean...?