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Old 04-11-2012, 11:06 PM   #26
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Hamilton, Ontario is our Detroit.
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the red wings move to hamilton...
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Old 04-11-2012, 11:16 PM   #27
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you guys should see the empty seats at recent pistons games
pretty bad
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Old 04-11-2012, 11:29 PM   #28
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Was recently there for a few days for vacation (if you could call it that).

Some things to note from the trip:

- The city really did seem pretty dead. Downtown hardly has anyone in it.
- Attended a Vancouver Canucks vs Detroit game, and it felt like one of the most hostile environments i've personally been in.
- Driving at night in the city is the worst. People will be milling about at intersections, like zombies, literally like zombies. This is at -5C with snow falling on the ground mind you.
- Drive into some of the older suburbs and industrial areas and the urban decay is amazing if you're into that kind of stuff. Really didn't do too much exploring since the city doesn't even have enough tax money to keep a decent police force.
- City itself is super boring unless its for hockey and/or have friends/relatives there. Drove over the bridge to windsor, instantly better environment. Canada > US. Seriously. Amazing how much difference a river makes. Its like north and south korea.
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That thought crossed my mind as well, as I sip a $1.75 cup of coffee from Tim Hortons that is of equal value to two Detroit homes...

I would be concerned about any legal liabilities that result from owning a run down shack..
I was bored at work, so I actually looked into it. A lot of those places have back taxes owed, plus are required to have the house basically razed simply because they're no longer structurally sound. Many require a city inspection as well.

Personally, I'd simply buy it and spend a few thousand to clear the lot and leave it barren. That said, there are actually some decent heritage houses under $50k that would be worth keeping.
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all these posts and the real reason why parts of Detroit look like that isn't mentioned? It's really very simple.


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same thing in New Orleans, Baltimore, Chicago, Washington DC (amazingly no?), etc, etc, etc, etc

and this is true for the same reason.
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The way everything is abandoned, looted, lifeless with decaying structures, instantly reminded me of Chernobyl.

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Fucking cool!

But if you went, how likely are you to get stabbed by a hobo or something?
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wow!!
This is interesting. Wonder what will happen in the next 40 years or so. Any predictions?
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Old 04-12-2012, 04:03 PM   #35
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really? that's interesting to know its been a quite few years since i was there

good to know
No where near as bad as Detroit.
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I'm pretty sure most American cities not on the west coast and not named New York are like Detroit.
Pretty ignorant statement. I can list lots of cities off the top of my head that are on the east side of the U.S. or in the Midwest that are not crumbling and are vibrant and economically viable cities. Chicago, Boston, Denver, Memphis, Raleigh/Durham (Tech Triangle), Pittsburgh, Austin... shall I keep going.

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Pretty ignorant statement. I can list lots of cities off the top of my head that are on the east side of the U.S. or in the Midwest that are not crumbling and are vibrant and economically viable cities. Chicago, Boston, Denver, Memphis, Raleigh/Durham (Tech Triangle), Pittsburgh, Austin... shall I keep going.
Please do. Because you took the statement literally, it would be fun to see you list off a bunch of American cities that don't suck.. let's see how far you can go
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Seemed like a pretty literal statement.
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Well start listing the good cities, let's see if it qualifies as "most".. if so, I'll admit I was wrong then
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Well I already listed 7 good ones... so you need to start listing cities that are like Detroit to catch up to me first. Once you hit 7 I will keep going.
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You're the one who disagrees with my statement of fact. It's on you to prove it
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And I already proved my point that your statement is not true, naming major cities across the eastern seaboard and midwest; further, you have been unable to come up with a few cities that "are like Detroit" as you first said. And rather than getting in pointless arguments that I know you love on these boards, this is my time to step aside.
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^hi guys, instead of arguing you should just wikipedia. Wikipedia is god and knows more than us petty humans

lol anyway looked it up and according to this a place in MICHIGAN no less is #2 if we're talking income at least:

List of highest-income places in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

ironic..

certainly new york and the west coast do dominate in terms of prosperity though according to this same list

edit: actually if you add it up i believe california is 23%, new york is 11% and other east coast states are 40 something percent, indicating that the west coast (minus california) actually has less prosperous cities by income than the east coast (minus new york)

Number of places by state in the top 100: California 23, New York 11, Illinois 9, Florida 9, Connecticut 6, New Jersey 6, Texas 6, Colorado 4, Michigan 4, Ohio 3, Maryland 2, Minnesota 2, Missouri 2, Pennsylvania 2, Tennessee 2, Washington 2, Arizona 1, Delaware 1, Kansas 1, Kentucky 1, Massachusetts 1, Oklahoma 1, Virginia 1.
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when i think of detroit...only the red wings..robocop and eminem comes to mind...and bulletproof windows

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I was there in 2004-2005. Detroit was already crumbling then. It's not really anything new.
i would say it's been crumbling for many decades
my dad lived there in the early 80's and it was already a shithole back then. When I visited 10 years ago I was afraid to even leave the car...once thing to see it on tv and it's another to feel your personal safety threatened.
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^dayum early eighties right during the crack era?!?!
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If it's this bad in 10 years.. what will it be like in 50 years time? 100 years time?
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Pretty ignorant statement. I can list lots of cities off the top of my head that are on the east side of the U.S. or in the Midwest that are not crumbling and are vibrant and economically viable cities. Chicago, Boston, Denver, Memphis, Raleigh/Durham (Tech Triangle), Pittsburgh, Austin... shall I keep going.
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No where near as bad as Detroit.
bad is bad but granted not as severe
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Detroit is a shit hole, but how about Michigan?
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Think Detroit is bad? I have been in Highland Park, a city surrounded by Detroit. The gas station had armed gaurds.

It's a shame what happened to Detroit. There are so many beautiful buildings there.
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