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In general I'm not big when it comes to conspiracy theories because most theories are really out there but I find it even more disturbing that most people just accept whatever they watch on the on news or read in the newspaper as the ultimate truth and discredit anyone that has legitimate questions or concerns.
To think the government isn't capable of killing it's own to further their own propaganda or agendas is pretty naive, the amount of power the CIA and other secret organizations have is staggering, they can basically pull of whatever they want without anyone ever knowing.
We should believe conspiracy theories as much as we believe what's reporting on 6 o'clock news.
Conspiracy theories should not be taken as factual evidence, but to react to it as a alternative news source, to increase our awareness, for better judgement, so that we can form our own opinions.
To think the government isn't capable of killing it's own to further their own propaganda or agendas is pretty naive, the amount of power the CIA and other secret organizations have is staggering, they can basically pull of whatever they want without anyone ever knowing.
True, such organizations may engage in some "questionable" activities from time to time... I hardly think it's anywhere near as pervasive as the conspiracy nuts purport though, and I highly doubt most if any of these actions are done with "the government's" knowledge or support. I would tend to think it's a lot more like you see in the Bourne movies, with a lot of the really nasty stuff being kept "secret" within various sub-organizations, because they KNOW the shit would hit the fan if anyone in power above them found out what they were really up to.
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2009 Nobel Peace Prize nominee Jim Garrow shockingly claims he was told by a top military veteran that the Obama administration’s “litmus test” for new military leaders is whether or not they will obey an order to fire on U.S. citizens.
Garrow was nominated three years ago for the prestigious Nobel Peace Prize and is the founder of The Pink Pagoda Girls, an organization dedicated to rescuing baby girls from “gendercide” in China. Garrow has been personally involved in “helping rescue more than 36,000 Chinese baby girls from death.” He is a public figure, not an anonymous voice on the Internet, which makes his claim all the more disturbing.
“I have just been informed by a former senior military leader that Obama is using a new “litmus test” in determining who will stay and who must go in his military leaders. Get ready to explode folks. “The new litmus test of leadership in the military is if they will fire on US citizens or not”. Those who will not are being removed,” Garrow wrote on his Facebook page, later following up the post by adding the man who told him is, “one of America’s foremost military heroes,” whose goal in divulging the information was to “sound the alarm.”
Garrow’s claim is even more explosive given that the country is in the throes of a national debate about gun control, with gun rights advocates keen to insist that the founders put the second amendment in the Constitution primarily as a defense against government tyranny.
It also follows reports on Sunday that General James Mattis, head of the United States Central Command, “is being told to vacate his office several months earlier than planned.”
Concerns over US troops being given orders to fire on American citizens in the event of mass gun confiscation first arose in 1995 when hundreds of Marines at 29 Palms, California were given a survey as part of an academic project by Navy Lieutenant Commander Ernest Guy Cunningham which asked the Marines if they would, “Fire upon U.S. citizens who refuse or resist confiscation of firearms banned by the United States government.”
The survey was subsequently leaked because many of the Marines who took it were shocked by the tone of the question.
The US Military has clearly outlined innumerable civil emergency scenarios under which troops would be authorized to fire on U.S. citizens.
In July 2012, the process by which this could take place was made clear in a leaked US Army Military Police training manual for “Civil Disturbance Operations” (PDF) dating from 2006. Similar plans were also outlined in an updated manual released in 2010 entitled FM 3-39.40 Internment and Resettlement Operations.
The 2006 document outlines how military assets will be used to “help local and state authorities to restore and maintain law and order” in the event of mass riots, civil unrest or a declaration of martial law.
On page 20 of the manual, rules regarding the use of “deadly force” in confronting “dissidents” on American soil are made disturbingly clear with the directive that a, “Warning shot will not be fired.”
Given that second amendment advocates are now being depicted as dangerous terrorists by the federal government and local law enforcement, Garrow’s claim is sure to stoke controversy given that Americans are seeing their gun rights eviscerated while the federal government itself stockpiles billions of bullets.
Last week, Gloversville Mayor Dayton King warned that any federal gun confiscation program could lead to a “Waco-style standoff” in rural areas of America.
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2009 Nobel Peace Prize nominee Jim Garrow shockingly claims he was told by a top military veteran that the Obama administration’s “litmus test” for new military leaders is whether or not they will obey an order to fire on U.S. citizens.
Of course, there's NO chance that this "top veteran" is making shit up because he's bitter about having a black Commander-in-Chief... right?
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Snopes is a good source to start, critical thinking is the key. But then, most people like to believe to make them feel better, look at the multi billion dollar astrology industry.
As the late Carl Sagan brilliantly stated, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
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halfway through interview dorian yates starts, used to be a pro bodybuilder, talking about dmt experiences then goes to explain how people are being controlled.. you can see how more people are waking up
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She taught me right from wrong and always told me to stay positive and help others no matter how small the deed - that helping others gives us meaning to carry on. The sun is out today and it's a new day. Life is good. I just needed a slap in the face.
She taught me right from wrong and always told me to stay positive and help others no matter how small the deed - that helping others gives us meaning to carry on. The sun is out today and it's a new day. Life is good. I just needed a slap in the face.
I completely and wholeheartedly am behind this idea. Because fucking with nature has never ever ever backfired on us before. Not one single time in history.
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