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Old 05-01-2012, 04:54 PM   #26
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Bill Nye is so awesome for promoting science and critical thinking to kids and adults. The difference is kids haven't learned to be ignorant cunts yet, so this is the kind of reaction only adults would have.
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I think you guys are ignorant... religion is touchy subject, some dont believe it like me but want it because it teaches people good core values. Here we have Bill Nye who is a really well known and respected guy, all about science... and what he did was spit in the face of religious people by quoting that whole religious shit and pronouncing the fact that god is incorrect!
It may be because Bill isnt that smart to realize what he did, or that he was clearly trolling or had some kind of agenda. End of story.

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i dont see why they're mad its still a light to "govern the night"

but odd that Nye would even bring that up.... since he's not speaking to elementary kids... he must have been trying to ruffle some feathers
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I think you guys are ignorant... religion is touchy subject, some dont believe it like me but want it because it teaches people good core values. Here we have Bill Nye who is a really well known and respected guy, all about science... and what he did was spit in the face of religious people by quoting that whole religious shit and pronouncing the fact that god is incorrect!
It may be because Bill isnt that smart to realize what he did, or that he was clearly trolling or had some kind of agenda. End of story.
You're an idiot, that is in no way an accurate interpretation.

Bill Nye was not bashing religion, he was promoting the necessity of not accepting scripture at face value. The bible was not given to man by god, it was written by men who interpreted both oral and textual religious teachings and documented them in text. Man being fundamentally flawed, his interpretations are as well. That's an indisputable fact. The statement that the moon is a light emitting object is flawed, that is scientific fact. The religious idiot, Jerry Falwell, insists global warming is a myth, based on scripture. Raising the flawed statement that the moon is a light emitting object was simply citing precedence to support the argument that Falwell is an idiot, like most American Christians, who need to open their eyes and use their minds because the world is suffering as a result of a refusal to do so.
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That all sounds good if you are on his litigation team to cover up his dumb ass, but you lack common sense to understand that what he said was a blow to religion coming from a well known TV scientist. You think elementary kids are going know he was "promoting the necessity of not accepting scripture at face value", no they are going to think science just pwned god and lose confidence in it.

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i'm going to have to come out and say it.
fuck political correctness, fuck handling religions with gloves.
just because a bunch of dumb hicks are offended by things we can prove, because their beloved book said so. we have to pretend that it's ok?
fuck no.
SO what if bill nye came out and stomped on a bible, should we torch him?
no, because no one would care if i stomped on a comic book.
We should teach kids, logic, reasoning, good fundamental knowledge, and facts. Not a super jewish zombie that died and cameback from the dead 2000 years ago for sins he bestowed upon all people.

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That all sounds good if you are on his litigation team to cover up his dumb ass, but you lack common sense to understand that what he said was a blow to religion coming from a well known TV scientist. You think elementary kids are going know he was "promoting the necessity of not accepting scripture at face value", no they are going to think science just pwned god and lose confidence in it.

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It's a pretty fucking simple concept that an elementary school aged child should be capable of comprehending and therefore taught alongside religion to give them a more complete and useful understanding of it, rather than endowing them with potentially flawed ideas. My favourite game in kindergarten was telephone, that simple game is based on and teaches the fact that meaning changes after multiple translations, with the founding idea sometimes being completely lost. The numerous different sects of all religions, including the extremists who have done such profound damage to Islam, are an example of the varying interpretations that result from a reading of a single founding text. Read archaic latin and hebrew scripture alongside the modern english translations, they're dramatically different but the modern english translations are taught and followed to the letter.

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It's a pretty fucking simple concept that an elementary school aged child should be capable of comprehending and therefore taught alongside religion to give them a more complete and useful understanding of it, rather than endowing them with potentially flawed ideas.
Not everyone's parents are going re-reinforce religion. Remember kids this age are watching Power Rangers so they lack your level of insight. Bill dissed religion in his speak, kids will think religion is flawed to follow.

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My favourite game in kindergarten was telephone, that simple game is based on and teaches the fact that meaning changes after multiple translations, with the founding idea sometimes being completely lost. The numerous different sects of all religions, including the extremists who have done such profound damage to Islam, are an example of the varying interpretations that result from a reading of a single founding text. Read archaic latin and hebrew scripture alongside the modern english translations, they're dramatically different but the modern english translations are taught and followed to the letter.
What ever, Bill Nye represents science, an opposition to a holy being... he is not rewriting a truth version... he is dissing religion when he reveals the scripts are wrong.

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i'm going to have to come out and say it.
fuck political correctness, fuck handling religions with gloves.
just because a bunch of dumb hicks are offended by things we can prove, because their beloved book said so. we have to pretend that it's ok?
fuck no.
SO what if bill nye came out and stomped on a bible, should we torch him?
no, because no one would care if i stomped on a comic book.
We should teach kids, logic, reasoning, good fundamental knowledge, and facts. Not a super jewish zombie that died and cameback from the dead 2000 years ago for sins he bestowed upon all people.

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Here is the value of religion put in your face... if a hungry crack head started punching you in the head and emptying your pockets in our society, people would get out their phones and stare, but in the Islamic republic of Iran where religion is in the moral fabric of society, people would come to your rescue. A country that respects good moral values is a better standard/teaching than one where corporations/entities with the most money can dictate what is indoctrinated.

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Not everyone's parents are going re-reinforce religion. Remember kids this age are watching Power Rangers so they lack your level of insight. Bill dissed religion in his speak, kids will think religion is flawed to follow.
Nye did not in any way put down religion, he simply stated that direct, unquestioned interpretations of scripture are not always entirely accurate, such as the moon being a light emitting satellite. That is not different than the differences between the varying interpretations of the bible offered by the branches of Christianity.

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Then what do you suppose should be done?

Man's understand of the universe was in it's infancy at the time of the original Hebrew and Latin recordings of religious teachings, and remained that way at the time of the translations to English during the renaissance. God did not endow us with his divine knowledge, but did give us the power of reason and through that we advance. With advancement man has gained the understanding that the moon does not have the ability to emit light, so should we ignore that oversight and pretend it's the only one or accept that man and not god created through documentation religious scripture. Man does not possess the divine knowledge and understanding of God, we are flawed and all things we do are, so scripture inevitably is as well.
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Not everyone's parents are going re-reinforce religion. [b]Remember kids this age are watching Power Rangers[b] so they lack your level of insight. Bill dissed religion in his speak, kids will think religion is flawed to follow.
Power Rangers was my Generation, which is probably 2 or 3 Generations now. Did the rock provide sufficient shelter?
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Are you still stuck in the 50's?
Have you ever fought crazy? Nothing beats crazy.
Crack heads don't just randomly attack people. And I'm pretty sure suicide bombers are more dangerous than some crack head in the back alley behind Keefer St.
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If people were as dumb as CharlesInCharge and too scared to speak the truth regardless of who the audience is, then Science would have stopped in its track long time ago. You (i.e. CharlesInCharge) would still be living in stone-age and would not be entitled to the technology (derived from scientific knowledge) you use on a daily basis.

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Galileo's championing of heliocentrism was controversial within his lifetime, when most subscribed to either geocentrism or the Tychonic system.

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That all sounds good if you are on his litigation team to cover up his dumb ass, but you lack common sense to understand that what he said was a blow to religion coming from a well known TV scientist. You think elementary kids are going know he was "promoting the necessity of not accepting scripture at face value", no they are going to think science just pwned god and lose confidence in it.

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if everybody was like you, we'd all be fucked
Nye didn't insult anybody; he's just stating the damn truth
there's a difference between being an ignorant fuck and being religious

p.s. science did pwn god
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