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Gerbs 05-25-2012 03:10 PM

A ssd allows you to load faster in games.

!MiKrofT 05-25-2012 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jc95 (Post 7928356)
My friends told me not to get a green drive

And what is a ssd sorry i dont know much

But i really dont need that much space
Im only using about 300gb on my laptop

SSD = Solid State Drive. No moving parts and way faster than a regular spinny drive.

Nothing wrong with the WD Green drive if you're using them for storage. I have 2 of them and they're fine. If you only plan on using the single regular drive get a 1TB WD Black instead.

J.C 05-25-2012 04:28 PM

Yeah i was planning on the black

NCIX Gaming Bundle Deal Intel Core i5 3570K Quad Core & ASUS P8Z77-V Lk SLI DDR3 Motherboard - Bundle Deals - 3570K & P8Z77-V LK
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/BDL_3570K_Z77VPRO

Saw these bundle and it looks good
Any thoughts?
Leaning more towards the ncix one

twitchyzero 05-25-2012 04:47 PM

that ncix one isn't bad for price..if you are only doing mild-moderate overclocking it's decent
memory express bundle isn't really a bundle deal..pretty much retail pricing

J.C 05-25-2012 05:42 PM

CASE: MSI Interceptor Series Nighthawk ATX Mid Tower Case 4X5.25 6X3.5INT 2X120MM 200MM USB3.0 *No PS* $50 (NCIX)
RAM: AMD MEMORY Performance Edition 8GB PC3-12800 CL8 DDR3 SDRAM Kit (2 x 4GB) $40 (ME)
CPU & MOBO: NCIX Gaming Bundle Deal Intel Core i5 3570K Quad Core & ASUS P8Z77-V Lk SLI DDR3 Motherboard $350 (NCIX)
GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 570 Fermi 732MHZ 1280MB GDDR5 2XDVI Mini-HDMI PCI-E Video Card $250 (ME)
PSU: Coolermaster Extreme Power Plus 700W ATX 12V V2.3 Silent Power Supply 20/24PIN 120MM Fan $70 (NCIX)
HARD DRIVE: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 16MB Cache 7200RPM 3.5IN SATA Internal Hard Drive OEM $68 (ME)
WATER COOLING: Corsair Cooling Hydro Series H80 High Performance CPU Cooler System LGA775 1366 1156 1155 AM2 AM3 $90 (ME/NCIX)
SOUND CARD: ASUS Xonar DX 7.1 Channel PCI-E Sound Card 24BIT Dolby Digital 116DB SNR W/ Low Profile Bracket $60 (ME)

a bit over my budget, its 1100 after tax qq, should i take out the 570 for a 560?
all the stuff from ME is price matched already

which cooler would be better? the corsair one above, or this? their the same price

http://secure1.ncix.com/products/?sku=60587

going to the ncix warehouse sale tonight and going to see what i can get

J.C 05-26-2012 11:16 AM

so came back and got quite a bit at the sale

CASE: Thermaltake Chaser MK-1 $65
MOTHERBOARD: ASUS P8Z68-V Pro GEN3 $80
GPU: MSI N570GTX Power Edition OC $245
PSU: Corsair enthusiast Series TX650 $60
SOUND CARD: ASUS Xonar DX 7.1 Channel PCI-E $40
HARD DRIVE: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB $60

still got to pick up a 3570k, thermaltake 2.0 pro water cooling, memory, and an asus dvd drive

FerrariEnzo 05-26-2012 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jc95 (Post 7928967)
so came back and got quite a bit at the sale

CASE: Thermaltake Chaser MK-1 $65
MOTHERBOARD: ASUS P8Z68-V Pro GEN3 $80
GPU: MSI N570GTX Power Edition OC $245
PSU: Corsair enthusiast Series TX650 $60
SOUND CARD: ASUS Xonar DX 7.1 Channel PCI-E $40
HARD DRIVE: Seagate Barracuda 72200.12 1TB $60

still got to pick up a 3570k, thermaltake 2.0 pro water cooling, memory, and an asus dvd drive

Why would you get a water cooling kit if you dont plan on OCing your rig????
The ASUS P8Z68-V Pro GEN3 has onboard sound card, you dont really need to buy a sound card..


what is the benefits of the Cache drive over an SSD drive..
from what I understand, the cache drive (in conjunction with a spiny drive) makes it act as a SSD, but they are reletively the same price, isnt it better to get an SSD?

unless if you have a large capacity drive, like 500gb+.. but what would the read/write speeds be?

right now Im using the WD Raptor 300gb drive as my main drive, for the same price as an SSD, would the Crucial Adrenaline 50gb be better to get over an acutal SSD drive?

J.C 05-26-2012 03:19 PM

i do plan to oc it, and i got the sound card because it was 60% off and i really like music so why not.

and there were no ssd's at the sale, but going to look out for one in the near future because right now i'm only using the drive for storage

SiRV 05-26-2012 04:59 PM

a bit of a newb queston here... but if you have a water cooled system does that mean your system won't make any fan noises at all? any other benefits to watercooling?

SkinnyPupp 05-26-2012 06:31 PM

I started testing cache drives vs Intel's Smart Response. The cache drives are faster, so I recommend them over using a small SSD and Intel's software.

BTW going back to a mechanical HDD for the first time in a while, you realize how fucking SLOW they are... my god! Every little thing takes longer, as it chugs away noisily. Seriously, HDDs are a relic of the past

J.C 05-26-2012 07:07 PM

just got back and ended up getting air cooling instead of water
will update with pics when im done

SiRV 05-26-2012 09:44 PM

OCZ Vertex 3 120GB 2.5IN SATA3 6Gbps SandForce SF-2281 Solid State Disk Flash Drive SSD - OCZ Technology - VTX3-25SAT3-120G


Just want to double check! It looks like a sweet deal, but it almost sounds too good to be true... is this good for a SSD?

J.C 05-26-2012 10:06 PM

fffffffff
it doesn't work, somethings wrong, but me and my friends don't know what yet, theres so many possibilities.
going to retry tomorrow

!MiKrofT 05-27-2012 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiRV (Post 7929140)
a bit of a newb queston here... but if you have a water cooled system does that mean your system won't make any fan noises at all? any other benefits to watercooling?

Yes. It reduce noise as you don't have a fan on the block but you still have a fan cooling the radiator. As well you might get a bit of pump noise that's circulating the fluid.

!MiKrofT 05-27-2012 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiRV (Post 7929340)
OCZ Vertex 3 120GB 2.5IN SATA3 6Gbps SandForce SF-2281 Solid State Disk Flash Drive SSD - OCZ Technology - VTX3-25SAT3-120G


Just want to double check! It looks like a sweet deal, but it almost sounds too good to be true... is this good for a SSD?

I wouldn't say too good to be true. Prices are coming down and the vertex 4 has already been released. Good price overall though. Just make sure it's got the latest firmware update on the drive if you decide to get it.

FerrariEnzo 05-27-2012 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 7929185)
I started testing cache drives vs Intel's Smart Response. The cache drives are faster, so I recommend them over using a small SSD and Intel's software.

BTW going back to a mechanical HDD for the first time in a while, you realize how fucking SLOW they are... my god! Every little thing takes longer, as it chugs away noisily. Seriously, HDDs are a relic of the past

doesnt Intels smart response utilizes the SSD cache drives? or does it only used a mechanical drive and makes part of it a cache drive?

SkinnyPupp 05-27-2012 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FerrariEnzo (Post 7929514)
doesnt Intels smart response utilizes the SSD cache drives? or does it only used a mechanical drive and makes part of it a cache drive?

Sorry I don't understand what you're asking

J.C 05-28-2012 07:16 PM

so either my psu or my mb is broken, friend took my motherboard and cpu and is going to try with his psu

dryjesus 05-28-2012 08:32 PM

Shorn, if I were you, I would get at least a 500w psu for that system. The video card pulls about 200 watts alone, leaving you only 200w for the rest of your system. I'm sure the power supply will run your computer, but you'll be straining it all the time. Your 400w psu isn't gonna be running at the optimum efficiency, so you'll actually be paying more for your electricity bill (compared to a 500-550w psu) and the fan on your power supply will be ramped up all the time.

And I'm pretty sure the OP knows that the motherboard has onboard audio. It's just that a sound card offers much much better sound quality than onboard. I'm pretty sure you would notice if you heard a computer with a good sound card, especially with good speakers.

SiRV 05-28-2012 08:52 PM

Let me know what you guys think of these two setups:

Quote:

intel core i5 3550 Quadcore 3.3 Ghz (Ivy) 219.98
MSI Z77A-G45 Mobo 153.99
Tower case (black) 44.99
Muskin Chronos 120 GB 2.5IN SATA3 Sandforce 2281 SSD 99.99
Seagate Barracuda 7200 500 GB 3.5IN 16 MBCache SATA3 HDD 69.99 (might change this to 1TB)
Windows 7 ... 97.99 (guess I can get pirated?)
DRW-24B1ST 24x SATA DVD Writer 19.99
Corsair Vengeance Blue 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1600 44.79
Corsair TX650 V2 650W ATX 12V Single rail 54A Power supply 79.99
GeForce GTX 550 Ti OC 950 MHZ 4300 MHZ 1GB GDDR5 129.99
Total comes to 1139.25 after installation/taxes etc.


Quote:

Intel Core i5-3450 3.10 GHZ 6 MB 209.99
AsRock Z77 Pro3 Mobo 144.99
GeForce GTX 550 Ti SC 1GB 119.99
Seatgate 1TB Barracuda 7200 RPM 64MB Cache 99.99
Corsair TX650M 650W PSU (modular) 91.24
ASUS 24x DVDRW SATA 18.74
MS Windows 7 92.49
Zalman Z9 Plus ATX Tower Case 59.99
Set up = 40.00
Total 1170.57

What do you guys think is a better deal.. everythings' already been price matched roughly on the second option (which is why windows 7 is cheaper etc.). Anything you guys would swap out for better / cheaper parts that still perform well?

Again.. not a hardcore gamer.. just want something that will last a couple years .. D3 , maybe some FPS's etc.

Thanks!

!MiKrofT 05-28-2012 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dryjesus (Post 7931125)
Shorn, if I were you, I would get at least a 500w psu for that system. The video card pulls about 200 watts alone, leaving you only 200w for the rest of your system. I'm sure the power supply will run your computer, but you'll be straining it all the time. Your 400w psu isn't gonna be running at the optimum efficiency, so you'll actually be paying more for your electricity bill (compared to a 500-550w psu) and the fan on your power supply will be ramped up all the time.

And I'm pretty sure the OP knows that the motherboard has onboard audio. It's just that a sound card offers much much better sound quality than onboard. I'm pretty sure you would notice if you heard a computer with a good sound card, especially with good speakers.

The videocard doesn't always pull 200W. That's only on full load which most of the time it isn't.

Shorn 05-28-2012 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dryjesus (Post 7931125)
Shorn, if I were you, I would get at least a 500w psu for that system. The video card pulls about 200 watts alone, leaving you only 200w for the rest of your system. I'm sure the power supply will run your computer, but you'll be straining it all the time. Your 400w psu isn't gonna be running at the optimum efficiency, so you'll actually be paying more for your electricity bill (compared to a 500-550w psu) and the fan on your power supply will be ramped up all the time.

And I'm pretty sure the OP knows that the motherboard has onboard audio. It's just that a sound card offers much much better sound quality than onboard. I'm pretty sure you would notice if you heard a computer with a good sound card, especially with good speakers.

not sure if i should trust jesus or not :pokerface:

but even if it is enough i probably will get the 500w then.. i'd prefer it to be more quiet most of the time

J.C 05-28-2012 11:08 PM

wow my motherboard doesn't support ivy bridge.
also i don't know anyone with a sandy bridge cpu so that i can use it and upgrade the BIOS on my mb
gg

!MiKrofT 05-28-2012 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jc95 (Post 7931305)
wow my motherboard doesn't support ivy bridge.
also i don't know anyone with a sandy bridge cpu so that i can use it and upgrade the BIOS on my mb
gg

If you take it back to NCIX I'm sure they'll be able to flash it for you for free. Kinda odd though. A refurb motherboard would usually come back with the latest BIOS update.

J.C 05-28-2012 11:22 PM

theres hope! :fullofwin:
i'll call them tomorrow and ask


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