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Old 05-29-2012, 05:29 PM   #1
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this happened 5 yrs ago btw we had a thread on it in here too
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Old 05-29-2012, 05:41 PM   #3
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I know how long ago this took place but all along I believed the man was actively attacking an injured officer with a chain when he was capped.
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damn thats fucked up couldnt they have used the taser once they disarmed him and he was crawling.
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the guy hit a cop with a lock on a bike chain, he could have been shot at that point

big deal.
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Your absoutly right hondaracer but the fact is that moment had passed and he was defenseless, injured and on his hands and knees when they pumped a hot one into his head. How many officers does it take to handcuff a injured man who is allready on the ground.

Life & death big deal.......
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the guy hit a cop with a lock on a bike chain, he could have been shot at that point

big deal.

they already shot him several times and he was already disarmed and was told to crawl forward
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.................... not one officer is taught self defence? are you fucking kidding me?
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this reminds me of the YVR incident.

Let's see: Both had one man. In both incidents the person was unarmed. In both situations there was more than 1 or 2 police officers. In both situations I think police used excessive force.

I cannot see how 3 male officers are unable to control a man with just their hands if not also their batons.
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^^ It can be if weilded in the right way. You can seriously injure someone with a chain (and it had a lock on the end? IIRC)

That being said, this video acutally confirms what they already knew and adds nothing since the last shot is blocked by the car.
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Looks like an execution. Guy was in no shape to do any harm anymore.
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it doesn't even fucking matter how much of an injury the chain could cause; it's a damn human life. if i were Chipperfield i'd rather get whipped with a bike chain than to kill a person

4-5 cops can't restrain 1 guy? fuckin pussy cops have no judgement
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this guy recorded it 5 years ago, went back to manitoba and never showed anyone the tape because he didn't know there were conflictin accounts. onlhy last week he checked online and realized there were conflicting accoutns and released it?

BULLSHIT.

if you saw some shit like this owuld you not check online what happened and any updates, until 5 yeras from the incident?
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Couldnt they just kick him in the dome while he was crawling?
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this guy recorded it 5 years ago, went back to manitoba and never showed anyone the tape because he didn't know there were conflictin accounts. onlhy last week he checked online and realized there were conflicting accoutns and released it?

BULLSHIT.

if you saw some shit like this owuld you not check online what happened and any updates, until 5 yeras from the incident?
exactly what i'm thinking, why wait 5 years?
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The video evidence doesn't show clearly he was shot in the head. How would it be any help?

Something must be missing here, drunkrussian made a good point. The 5 year excuse doesn't seem to be a reasonable explanation.

Didn't we have a big thread comparing this to the YVR case?
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In thinking this:


Or this:


That's what Google shows when you type bike chain with lock.
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I wonder if when it comes to cops, their culture has a certain point-of-no-return?
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lol i think the point of no return was when he had 5 rounds in him already

and to the guy questioning how much damage a bike chain could do, give most people a chain off a motor cycle, or one that locks a bike like that and im pretty sure most people could kill somone with it
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I've been hit with both a bike chain AND a bike lock. The bike chain got me 16 stitches on my arm, the bike lock got me 5 stitches above my right eye, about 2cm away from taking out said eye.
And both incidents happened well after I became a 2nd degree black belt. Some people can just do damage period.
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these types of cops need to be lined up and shot and feel what the people they murder feel.
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you guys realize that the chain/lock was already seized by an officer right? (you see it in the video) and he has several rounds of bullets already in him and he's on his hands and knees crawling right?

all that was left to do was to handcuff him...
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you guys realize that the chain/lock was already seized by an officer right? (you see it in the video)
And what other weapons does he have? Any? None? Another chain? A knife? A gun?

You don't know at that point what he may or may not be concealing, and neither do the cops, but they have to proceed on the assumption that he's still armed. If they assume the chain was all he had, an officer moved in to cuff him, and ends up with a knife in his belly, or worse, in a major artery in his leg...

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and he has several rounds of bullets already in him and he's on his hands and knees crawling right?
Bitch doesn't know enough to stay down.

He's been violent, he's been belligerent, he's been armed with a dangerous weapon... you've put him down and he's still coming toward you and may STILL be armed with another dangerous or even deadly weapon... what do you do?

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all that was left to do was to handcuff him...
Be great if it was really that easy, right?
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actually it is that easy....

not as easy as a bullet to the head though apparently which you obviously approve of... (he was even told not to fire by officers around him... which the pcc noted)

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