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Old 06-01-2012, 09:26 AM   #1
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A Montgomery County dad just pleaded guilty to child endangerment for abandoning his teenage daughter. Police say it was all because she got a bad grade in school!

The dad apparently dropped the girl off near Cheltenham Square Mall. The girl was abandoned. She was told that she could not come home and that she no longer met her parents’ expectations in terms of her grades. But every parent that we spoke with says that punishment does not fit the crime.

A 16 year old was forced to pack her bag and get in the car. Her father, 47 year old Tuan Huynh was kicking her out of the house. All for getting a bad grade on a calculus test.

The young girl was dropped off on busy Cheltenham Avenue and left to fend for herself or find a ride home. Even if she attempted to walk, it would take almost four hours to get home.

Assistant DA Cara McMenamin tells us the girl wandered around near the Cheltenham Mall for hours before a minister finally approached her and called for help.

Huynh pleaded guilty to endangering the welfare of a child. He isn't allowed home until he has completed parenting classes. But when we saw his car in his driveway, we asked to speak with him.

Other parents are horrified that someone would risk their own child's life over something so trivial.

Huynh could have faced up to five years in jail but instead he will do two years of probation and 100 hours of community service.

The assistant DA tells us he had no remorse for what he did, and that he can do with his child what he sees fit.
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Couldnt find the way home and shes 16 years old?
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16 year old girls dont go to the mall on their own anymore? Or is it suddenly more dangerous at the mall when your parents are mad and they drop you off.
Talk about blown outta proportion
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lol she's 16 not 6 she can't find her way home?

I say this because i doubt the father was really going to bar her from coming home he just wanted to send her a clear message of "daughter i am disappoint"

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Are you guys reading the article? It was reported to be a four hour walk home if she were to walk it. That's not even like walking from Lansdowne to Metro. I don't blame her for having no clue how to get home.

Shit, if someone dropped me off in the middle of White Rock (probably a lot more further than a four hour walk) at the age of 16, probably have a hard time figuring out what the fuck to do too, considering I'd never even been there.

Edit: apparently it's a 3h 31m walk from Lansdowne to Metro, thanks google maps!
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honestly if it is lansdowne to metro thats not bad at all. canada line then transfer to expo. obviously, some remote locations will be tougher but if you are street smart it is not impossible. she got dropped at a mall. she can use a payphone or even ask a store to borrow one to call her mom/friend/other relative.
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and by bad grades it meant she only got a B+
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re: being 16 and finding your way home.

Uhhh, it's really not that hard to ask for directions.

Fuck, when I was 15, my parents decided to move from E.Van to Coquitlam. I had no clue what was around there and still went to school, worked and hung out with my friends in Van. Since my parents still worked in Van., I'd catch a ride at 6:30am, be at school around 7, workout, study or nap and go to class. If I wanted to hang out with my friends after or had football practice, I'd take 2 buses to get home. I rarely got a ride to work, downtown on the weekends, so I'd either bus it or ride my bike. Saturday nights, I'd either stay at a friend's or grandparents then go to work Sunday morning and bike/bus home.

My point is, if she's educated enough to take calculus, she should be resourceful enough to find a way home - it's really not that hard. In reality, she was probably distraught and wandering around, trying to figure out where she's going to stay and what to do about her dad. I would've called a friend or family to see if I could crash for the night.

In the end, the dad's just an idiot though.
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This reminds me of one of those documentories I saw on MSNBC or something like that where this vietnamese girl in Calif was being pimped out by her dad. He would have sex with her and then pimp her out. He liked the power he had because he got to decide with guy was able to have sex with his daughter.
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Crazy parents thinking they're doing what's right for the children. I've actually been in a similar situation, albeit much less severe so I have an idea of what's going on.

Blows my mind.
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"B" is not an acceptable grade in many asian families
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Lololol, I'm pretty sure everyone who read that title pictured the "strict father meme"
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A classic Asian story. Not only is there the stereotypical slave driving parents, the kid, who gets top marks, doesn't have the practical intelligence/knowledge on how to get home or what to do in a real world situation.
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Are you guys reading the article? It was reported to be a four hour walk home if she were to walk it. That's not even like walking from Lansdowne to Metro. I don't blame her for having no clue how to get home.

Shit, if someone dropped me off in the middle of White Rock (probably a lot more further than a four hour walk) at the age of 16, probably have a hard time figuring out what the fuck to do too, considering I'd never even been there.

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A classic Asian story. Not only is there the stereotypical slave driving parents, the kid, who gets top marks, doesn't have the practical intelligence/knowledge on how to get home or what to do in a real world situation.
Exactly why UBC implemented the "personal profile" extra curricular aspect of their admission process. Tons of students with crazy high averages are being outright rejected while those with considerably lower averages in the low-mid 80s are being admitted.
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An Edmonton high school teacher says he has been suspended for giving students zeros on uncompleted assignments or exams.

Lynden Dorval, a physics teacher at Ross Sheppard High School, has been giving the mark for work that wasn't handed in or tests not taken even though it goes against the school's "no-zero" policy.

'It's a way of pushing kids through even though they're not actually doing the work. '—Lynden Dorval, teacher

The thinking behind the policy is that failing to complete assignments is a behavioural issue and marks should reflect ability, not behaviour.

Dorval said he couldn't in good conscience comply with the rule.

"I just didn't have a choice," he said. "I just couldn't not do it. I tried to talk myself out of it many times, but it was just something so important to me, I just had to go through with it."

The policy was adopted by the school 1˝ years ago, Dorval said.
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Teachers were told to no longer give zeros. Instead an uncompleted test or assignment would be marked with a comment.

The student's mark would then be based on whatever work is done.
Student reaction to suspension

"He shouldn't even be teaching anymore. If he wants to hand out zeros, he should be doing some other job — not a teacher."

—Ryan Grouette, Grade 10

"If students show up they deserve a minimum mark. A zero seems a bit extreme."

—Cindy Smith, Grade 11

"I think he should be allowed to teach. He's a good teacher from what I hear."

—Cassandra Gregory, Grade 12

"It's what they call social promotion," Dorval said "It's a way of pushing kids through even though they're not actually doing the work. It's a way of getting them through, getting their credits and of course making the staff look very good."

Teachers were instructed to use their "informed professional judgement" at the end of the year when handing out marks, he said.

"Some would, in fact, lower the mark on what wasn't done," Dorval said. "Other teachers would just let the mark go, so there was a real inconsistency on how (the policy) was being applied."

Dorval believes the policy leaves students with the impression they don't need to be accountable for their actions, he said.
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"That's against what I've been doing my whole career because I believe the student should be accountable for what they're doing."

Dorval said he always gave uncompleted work what is called "reluctant zeros," where his students were given a number of opportunities to make up the assignment and have the zero replaced with a mark.

"Most of my students did that," he said. "By the end of the year, I hardly had any zeros at all."

He does recall however, one student who had only completed six of 15 items.

Parents are largely unaware of the policy, as teachers were instructed not to speak about it, he said.

Other schools in the Edmonton public system also use no-zero marking, he said.

Schools as far away as Ontario and Texas had also adopted, but later abandoned the philosophy.
Most teachers support him, Dorval says

Dorval was suspended earlier this month and is no longer allowed on school property.

But he said most teachers at the school support him and are envious that he can afford to take a stand.

"I have 35 years. I don't really want to retire now, but if I have to, I can retire and live on my pension.

He accepts by going public he will likely be fired.

"To me this is the right thing," he said. "It had to be done."

The Edmonton Public Schools said Dorval was not suspended over the zero grade policy.

"The situation is far more serious and complex," the district said on its Facebook site. "This is a staff discipline issue and we can’t speak to the specifics of this individual case.

"The School Act authorizes suspensions for only three reasons: if there are reasonable grounds for believing the teacher has been guilty of gross misconduct, neglecting the teacher’s duty or neglecting to obey a lawful order of the board."

The superintendent of Edmonton Public Schools, Edgar Schmidt, refused to discuss the specifics of Dorval's case during a hastily-called news conference Thursday afternoon.

Instead, he told reporters that it's important for teachers to know and follow the rules.

"When an assessment plan has been put in place at a school level, it's my expectation that every staff member will stick to that plan and make sure they are supportive of the work of the entire staff and the principal in relation to student assessment," Schmidt said.

"And giving good information to students about the work they are actually doing."

Dorval believes he was suspended for insubordination. He will likely appeal his suspension.
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A father who is that strict in terms of grading probably doesn't instill a lot of practical knowledge to his daughter or allow her to go outside enough to be familiar with the transit system.
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From the title, I thought this was article was American with their bullshit No Child Left Behind Act. Then, I saw this was in Canada. When the fuck did this happen? I really hope that this policy doesn't spread across the country.
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Sounds reasonable. All parents should be like this. Love and compassion gets you no where, only with violence and fear will you be taken seriously.
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Sounds reasonable. All parents should be like this. Love and compassion gets you no where, only with violence and fear will you be taken seriously.
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Sounds reasonable. All parents should be like this. Love and compassion gets you no where, only with violence and fear will you be taken seriously.


Thats a great mindset. Your socially awkward, timid children will have to compete with my confident, well adjusted children. My children will be the leadership while your children, unable to think without an authority figure in their lives, will provide the unquestioning support and labour needed.

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