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Old 06-24-2012, 11:24 PM   #601
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I don't hate Kane..Bolland is another story. Fuck that guy.

Chicago/Vancouver making deals..this has got to be some sort of fucked up joke
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Old 06-24-2012, 11:27 PM   #602
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i cant see TB as a suitor for lui
they have lindback
but in reality, we have to eat up Vinny's contract which is just as bad as Luongo's, hell theres no room for him here down the middle and vinny is most likely to come bck
Yeah I agree. With Lindback, TB most liekly removed themselves from the market. Come to think of it, I swear I see FLA as a very good suitor. FLA has a goalie prospect Markstrom, 22 years old, and probably not ready to take over yet; FLA has cap space for Luongo as a good mentor. Plus he met his wife there, and has a home there. Just has to find a way to fix lu's salary in a budget LLOL

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What a headache...we are a like the spca trying to find a home for abandon animals, except its for Lu...poor guy...lol
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Since were not getting players we want for Lu, i think we should just keep him until a team is playing like shit and a GMs job is on the line, he'll make a trade for Luongo to save his job
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lol at teams thinking they can get Lu for peanuts, just like how hondaracer thinks we can get bobby.ryan for booth and raymond
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Fuck, I can't believe Lu's fall from grace was this bad.


I remember 5 years ago, this guy was only 2nd to Sidney Crosby about GM's wanting to build a franchise around. Now we're struggling to get "Gardiner" for him?
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Was just about to post that. Looks like the Canucks want Bjustad coming back the other way.

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As the hockey world, Digital Journal included, is waiting with great anticipation to hear the gold-medal winning goalie will be shipped to the Toronto Maple Leafs, the Panthers, his former club, may have the inside edge on Bobby Lou's future. The Fourth Period says they do. "The Florida Panthers are serious about bringing back Roberto Luongo to South Florida, one league source told TFP on Sunday," the magazine wrote in a brief story on June 24. "Speaking on the basis of anonymity, the source indicated that Luongo is now only willing to waive his no-movement clause to Florida, where he spends his off-seasons." Something holding up the deal, the magazine says, is Vancouver GM Mike Gillis wants a package that includes the Panthers 2010 Entry Draft 19th overall pick, Nick Bjugstad. He's a skilled center from Minnesota and at 6' 4" has size to go with tremendous skating ability. Bjugstad was drafted out of high-school but has excelled in two years at college since. Florida Panthers or Toronto Maple Leafs or... Obviously, without a source being named, it's hard to gauge the accuracy of the report. The magazine is becoming a respected hockey publication, it's been publishing regularly since 2009, and may be loathe to risk a reputation on shoddy research. Luongo played for the Panthers for five seasons, after being traded there by the team that drafted him, the New York Islanders - he played only 24 games with New York - and was popular during a time when the club was not strong. They did not once make the playoffs during his stay but Luongo had a winning record of 35-30-9 in his last season there, the 2005-06 season. The other selling point is that his wife is from Miami and the Luongo family returns there for the summer months. Given Leafs GM Brian Burke said at the junior draft in Pittsburgh that Gillis was asking too much, and Columbus, the Penguins and Tampa Bay have gone in another direction to solve their goaltending needs, The Fourth Period may be on to something. Of course there's always the Chicago Blackhawks....

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...if FLA doesn't pan out, doors to TOR or elsewhere are not by any means closed. Step by step process that hasn't be formalized in any way.
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Fuck, I can't believe Lu's fall from grace was this bad.


I remember 5 years ago, this guy was only 2nd to Sidney Crosby about GM's wanting to build a franchise around. Now we're struggling to get "Gardiner" for him?


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lol every goalie that comes to vancouver gets shitted on so badly no matter how well they do


but seriously luongo to chicago? that would be preety messed.
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What we know is that there was no wish list of teams as earlier reported by media. Regardless of trade talks with "other" teams, it was suppose to allow the ask for Luongo to go up (competition from other teams talking to Gillis). This sees to have not worked out, because not enough teams got in the hunt and the asking price has been to high.

It was only a matter of time before the reports that Luongo wants back in Florida would start to surface. That's just the place that makes most sense. So now if Gillis is to have any leverage in trade talks he would have to wait until the other teams get desperate. Can you imagine Florida playing well before the trade deadline and Theodore just shitting the bed next season? That would put a lot of pressure on Tallon to make move for Luongo given the circumstances. Maybe Luongo's value is higher once the season starts? He can show what he can do and what other teams are "missing" That being said, what if he starts playing bad?
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Also, a telling part of where trade talks are with Gillis is from this quote:

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It hasn't been close for me; I'm the problem," Gillis said when asked about trading Luongo. "This is a significant consideration for our organization. It's not going to be done lightly, not going to be done in a hurry and it's certainly not going to be done because of the pressure of selecting kids [at the draft] who in all likelihood aren't even going to be involved in this deal. I don't feel any pressure whatsoever to have done something this weekend.

"When I do the calculation, there are 15 legitimate No. 1 goalies in the world and [Luongo] is one of them. Contrary to what people may think or describe, there's a tremendous amount of interest in players who are high-end players in this league. And finding a fit is occasionally more challenging, but there's definitely fits to be found."
He's putting weight in waiting for the right deal. Maybe more deals will come during the season. A player they want isn't fitting with the current team, a team needs a change, anything can happen.

If the Canucks did make a deal with the Panthers, I want Nick Bjugstad. a 6'4/6'5 American Centre. I drafted the kid for my keeper league like 2 yrs ago, but because of roster space had to waive him
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Pointing out the obvious:

Toronto = media spotlight
Florida = nobody cares about hockey

So Luongo would probably do better in Florida.
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Toronto = media spotlight
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So Luongo would probably do better in Florida.
Another big factor, aside from family/city living conditions, most fans don't realize for players when deciding where they want to play is tax considerations. That is why Florida and Texas pro sports teams are an attractive option, no State income tax, makes a big difference when salaries are in the millions.
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I can't believe we can't even get back no-names for one of the best goalies in the world.
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you can thank the shaky playoff performances and that massive contract (yes, I know, the contract isn't as bad as it looks)
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Toronto should just suck it up and deal..they need a real starting goalie. They're running a bunch of 3rd string bums right now. Then again, if I were Luongo, I wouldn't want to play in that market. Just as much scrutiny as in Vancouver, if not more.
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Toronto should just suck it up and deal..they need a real starting goalie. They're running a bunch of 3rd string bums right now. Then again, if I were Luongo, I wouldn't want to play in that market. Just as much scrutiny as in Vancouver, if not more.
I'm not a believer that Toronto sans goalie issues is a playoff team. The right thing to do is to rebuild. But it's Toronto and Brian Burke, so likely something will happen.
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Just read that tootoo will test the FA market. Don't know about u guys but I'd love to have this guy on the team. Tootoo train!!!! Get 'er done MG!
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MG doesn't want a bunch of no-names in exchange for Luongo...
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Gillis is kind of limited. If truth be told, and Florida is the only place on Luongo's list, Tallon holds the leverage. That leverage gets less and less, depending on how the season plays out.

If Florida starts shitting the bed, and they have a goalie need (how can they not? Theodore is in net!) then you have to think a deal for Luongo would make sense.
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