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Old 04-09-2013, 10:34 AM   #13101
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Im sold on roy. Im not bitter about the hodgson trade anymore. Roy is a perfect replacement for hodgson on that third line.

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Old 04-09-2013, 10:51 AM   #13102
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Because in today's game having a top 5 goalie isn't AS important as icing the best players possible. One thing you are forgetting is Luongo can still be a top 5 goalie so if the return is greater for Corey by all means they should make that happen. I could understand your statement if we had no replacement for Corey

Again this is my opinion I don't expect everyone to agree with me but this is how I feel.
I completely disagree....a hot goalie can single-handedly win you entire series in the playoffs...look at Pittsburgh's situation when Fleury shits the bed come playoffs...


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inb4 dinamix says u butt hurt? / did i rustle your jimmies

on a related note

Roy is definitely due for a huge raise since his contract ends... if we dump Booth and Lu and our RFAs sign for a reasonable amount, we can probably squeeze him in for 5 - 5.5 MAX (for us) /year and still have some lee-way (though not much) for call-ups / extra roster players if players get injured and don't need to go on LTIR
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Roy is definitely due for a huge raise since his contract ends... if we dump Booth and Lu and our RFAs sign for a reasonable amount, we can probably squeeze him in for 5 - 5.5 MAX (for us) /year and still have some lee-way (though not much) for call-ups / extra roster players if players get injured and don't need to go on LTIR
That's what I was thinking; trading Lu for nothing isn't all that big of a deal is it? With the extra cap space we'd get from trading him, we can retain our core guys while still being able to make another decent signing, no?
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Makes sense when Luongo couldn't even return a leafs backup goalie and 2 2nd round picks. Yeah you'd rather move the older guy with a beastly contract, but no GM has proven dumb enough so far to give up assets on par for a Luongo quality player and pick up the contract too. MG should give feaster a call in the summer
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So what happened to Tanev? Was he jsut a healthy scratch?
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So what happened to Tanev? Was he jsut a healthy scratch?
Knee was injured from shot blocking. Day to day.
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We will be giving away Lu for a bag of pucks come Draft Day for sure.

I don't think we will see Roy in a Canucks uniform next year. The reason why Dallas couldn't sign him was because he wanted the big bucks for him and he was their 1st/2nd line center. I don't see Gillis paying 5M+ for a third line center. This will probably be his last big money contract and the market is thin next year.
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Knee was injured from shot blocking. Day to day.
Tanev out from Tim Jackman's hit on Saturday.

Roy probably not going to get resigned. No way Gillis pays him more than Kesler/Sedins on the team. Unless Roy takes less money to stay on a winning team, he's gone after this season.
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Because in today's game having a top 5 goalie isn't AS important as icing the best players possible. One thing you are forgetting is Luongo can still be a top 5 goalie so if the return is greater for Corey by all means they should make that happen. I could understand your statement if we had no replacement for Corey

Again this is my opinion I don't expect everyone to agree with me but this is how I feel.
I agree there, at least for the next couple years. We're not getting rid of Cory and having Bob essensa take over. Luongo is still a top notch elite nhl goalie.

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I completely disagree....a hot goalie can single-handedly win you entire series in the playoffs...look at Pittsburgh's situation when Fleury shits the bed come playoffs...
I agree with you there too. But how many series has Cory stolen? Who's to say we won't see early season Cory reappear come playoffs? I think you build a team solid enough you dont have to rely on a hot goalie to steal you series. Expecting a goalie to get hot and steal games is always a crapshoot.

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That's what I was thinking; trading Lu for nothing isn't all that big of a deal is it? With the extra cap space we'd get from trading him, we can retain our core guys while still being able to make another decent signing, no?
Well his caphit is 5.3m. Get rid of that, you have enough to sign a decent backup for 1-1.5, resign a Raymond at 3, and a Lappy at 1. You've made no improvements to the team, and done nothing to restock the prospect pool.

Making a good hockey trade for either goalie, you bring in a player already under contract to hopefully upgrade your current roster, and you get a chance at a prospect and draft pick, and hopefully a few bucks leftover on cap space
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Somone is going to take Lu it's just a matter of time, outside of the contract Lu himself can be a marketing machine for a Shitty franchise
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But what are the chances Luongo will waive his NTC and go to a shitty franchise?
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I'm surprised it took him so long. He gets hit more, and harder, than anyone else on the team, but usually just bounces back up. He's got to bulk up and start throwing a few otherwise he'll just keep on getting stapled and hurt.
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I completely disagree....a hot goalie can single-handedly win you entire series in the playoffs...look at Pittsburgh's situation when Fleury shits the bed come playoffs...
I agree with you 100% but ANY goalie in the NHL is capable of getting hot and single handedly winning games in the playoffs. We cant sit here and say that just because Cory is a top 5 today he will stay hot for the playoffs nor can we say that he won't. All im saying is if Cory has a better return, trading him would be best for THIS team with how it is configured today(having Luongo still here and another possible prospect in Eddie Lack almost ready)


and for all the guys saying that Luongo will go for next to nothing in the off season, if that's the case wouldn't you let Cory go given he will get you decent return? I just don't see how giving Luongo away makes our team better... Getting back no value for a goalie like Luongo makes absolute no sense to me even given his contract. We are not talking about Rick Dipietro here lol
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I agree with you 100% but ANY goalie in the NHL is capable of getting hot and single handedly winning games in the playoffs. We cant sit here and say that just because Corey is a top 5 today he will stay hot for the playoffs nor can we say that he won't. All im saying is if Corey has a better return, trading him would be best for THIS team with how it is configured today(having Luongo still here and another possible prospect in Eddie Lack almost ready)
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I'm surprised it took him so long. He gets hit more, and harder, than anyone else on the team, but usually just bounces back up. He's got to bulk up and start throwing a few otherwise he'll just keep on getting stapled and hurt.
I believe they are waiting for the mechanical parts for his knee. Once they reinstall a new one, I think Tan Man the Cyborg is good to GO!
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Good job MG/Gilman

Salary Cap: $70,200,000
Cap Payroll: $70,294,798
Projected LTIR: $94,798
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Not entirely sure how accurate this is, I'm pretty sure we would have some more cap space leftover because Kesler, Booth, and Manny could have been off the books for most of the season. But MG also doesn't usually answer LTIR questions in a straight forward manner.
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With such a short and fucked up season I'm not surprised at all.
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There are many "big name" players injured on the other teams, so it's not a problem limited to the Canucks...
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