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and yes some applies to North American culture as a whole since we live by American tv..music..sports etc
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Imagine you have a brother and he’s an alcoholic. He has his moments, but you keep your distance from him. You don’t mind him for the occasional family gathering or holiday. You still love him. But you don’t want to be around him.
This is how I lovingly describe my current relationship with the United States. The United States is my alcoholic brother. And although I will always love him, I don’t want to be near him at the moment.
I know that’s harsh, but I really feel my home country is not in a good place these days. That’s not a socio-economic statement (although that’s on the decline as well), but rather a cultural one.
I realize it’s going to be impossible to write sentences like the ones above without coming across as a raging prick, so let me try to soften the blow to my American readers with an analogy:
You know when you move out of your parents’ house and live on your own, how you start hanging out with your friends’ families and you realize that actually, your family was a little screwed up? Stuff you always assumed was normal your entire childhood, it turns out was pretty weird and may have actually fucked you up a little bit. You know, dad thinking it was funny to wear a Santa Claus hat in his underwear every Christmas or the fact that you and your sister slept in the same bed until you were 22, or that your mother routinely cried over a bottle of wine while listening to Elton John.
The point is we don’t really get perspective on what’s close to us until we spend time away from it. Just like you didn’t realize the weird quirks and nuances of your family until you left and spent time with others, the same is true for country and culture. You often don’t see what’s messed up about your country and culture until you step outside of it.
And so even though this article is going to come across as fairly scathing, I want my American readers to know: some of the stuff we do, some of the stuff that we always assumed was normal, it’s kind of screwed up. And that’s OK. Because that’s true with every culture. It’s just easier to spot it in others (i.e., the French) so we don’t always notice it in ourselves.
So as you read this article, know that I’m saying everything with tough love, the same tough love with which I’d sit down and lecture an alcoholic family member. It doesn’t mean I don’t love you. It doesn’t mean there aren’t some awesome things about you (BRO, THAT’S AWESOME!!!). And it doesn’t mean I’m some saint either, because god knows I’m pretty screwed up (I’m American, after all). There are just a few things you need to hear. And as a friend, I’m going to tell them to you.
And to my foreign readers, get your necks ready, because this is going to be a nod-a-thon. A Little “What The Hell Does This Guy Know?” Background: I’ve lived in different parts of the US, both the deep south and the northeast. I have visited most of the US’s 50 states. I’ve spent the past three years living almost entirely outside of the United States. I’ve lived in multiple countries in Europe, Asia and South America. I’ve visited over 40 countries in all and have spent far more time with non-Americans than with Americans during this period. I speak multiple languages. I’m not a tourist. I don’t stay in resorts and rarely stay in hostels. I rent apartments and try to integrate myself into each country I visit as much as possible. So there.
(Note: I realize these are generalizations and I realize there are always exceptions. I get it. You don’t have to post 55 comments telling me that you and your best friend are exceptions. If you really get that offended from some guy’s blog post, you may want to double-check your life priorities.)
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OK, we’re ready now. 10 things Americans don’t know about America.
1. Few People Are Impressed By Us
Unless you’re speaking with a real estate agent or a prostitute, chances are they’re not going to be excited that you’re American. It’s not some badge of honor we get to parade around. Yes, we had Steve Jobs and Thomas Edison, but unless you actually are Steve Jobs or Thomas Edison (which is unlikely) then most people around the world are simply not going to care. There are exceptions of course. And those exceptions are called English and Australian people. Whoopdie-fucking-doo.
As Americans, we’re brought up our entire lives being taught that we’re the best, we did everything first and that the rest of the world follows our lead. Not only is this not true, but people get irritated when you bring it to their country with you. So don’t.
2. Few People Hate Us
Despite the occasional eye-rolling, and complete inability to understand why anyone would vote for George W. Bush, people from other countries don’t hate us either. In fact — and I know this is a really sobering realization for us — most people in the world don’t really think about us or care about us. I know, that sounds absurd, especially with CNN and Fox News showing the same 20 angry Arab men on repeat for ten years straight. But unless we’re invading someone’s country or threatening to invade someone’s country (which is likely), then there’s a 99.99% chance they don’t care about us. Just like we rarely think about the people in Bolivia or Mongolia, most people don’t think about us much. They have jobs, kids, house payments — you know, those things called lives — to worry about. Kind of like us.
Americans tend to assume that the rest of the world either loves us or hates us (this is actually a good litmus test to tell if someone is conservative or liberal). The fact is, most people feel neither. Most people don’t think much about us.
Remember that immature girl in high school, who every little thing that happened to her meant that someone either hated her or was obsessed with her; who thought every teacher who ever gave her a bad grade was being totally unfair and everything good that happened to her was because of how amazing she was? Yeah, we’re that immature high school girl.
3. We Know Nothing About The Rest Of The World
For all of our talk about being global leaders and how everyone follows us, we don’t seem to know much about our supposed “followers.” They often have completely different takes on history than we do. Here were some brain-stumpers for me: the Vietnamese believe the Vietnam War was about China (not us), Hitler was primarily defeated by Russia (not us), Native Americans were wiped out largely disease and plague (not us), and the American Revolution was “won” because the British cared more about beating France (not us). Notice a running theme here?
(Hint: It’s not all about us.)
We did not invent democracy. We didn’t even invent modern democracy. There were parliamentary systems in England and other parts of Europe over a hundred years before we created government. In a recent survey of young Americans, 63% could not find Iraq on a map (despite being at war with them), and 54% did not know Sudan was a country in Africa. Yet, somehow we’re positive that everyone else looks up to us.
4. We Are Poor At Expressing Gratitude And Affection
There’s a saying about English-speakers. We say “Go fuck yourself,” when we really mean “I like you,” and we say “I like you,” when we really mean “Go fuck yourself.”
Outside of getting shit-housed drunk and screaming “I LOVE YOU, MAN!”, open displays of affection in American culture are tepid and rare. Latin and some European cultures describe us as “cold” and “passionless” and for good reason. In our social lives we don’t say what we mean and we don’t mean what we say.
In our culture, appreciation and affection are implied rather than spoken outright. Two guy friends call each other names to reinforce their friendship; men and women tease and make fun of each other to imply interest. Feelings are almost never shared openly and freely. Consumer culture has cheapened our language of gratitude. Something like, “It’s so good to see you” is empty now because it’s expected and heard from everybody.
In dating, when I find a woman attractive, I almost always walk right up to her and tell her that a) I wanted to meet her, and b) she’s beautiful. In America, women usually get incredibly nervous and confused when I do this. They’ll make jokes to defuse the situation or sometimes ask me if I’m part of a TV show or something playing a prank. Even when they’re interested and go on dates with me, they get a bit disoriented when I’m so blunt with my interest. Whereas, in almost every other culture approaching women this way is met with a confident smile and a “Thank you.”
5. The Quality of Life For The Average American Is Not That Great
If you’re extremely talented or intelligent, the US is probably the best place in the world to live. The system is stacked heavily to allow people of talent and advantage to rise to the top quickly.
The problem with the US is that everyone thinks they are of talent and advantage. As John Steinbeck famously said, the problem with poor Americans is that “they don’t believe they’re poor, but rather temporarily embarrassed millionaires.” It’s this culture of self-delusion that allows America to continue to innovate and churn out new industry more than anyone else in the world. But this shared delusion also unfortunately keeps perpetuating large social inequalities and the quality of life for the average citizen lower than most other developed countries. It’s the price we pay to maintain our growth and economic dominance.
In my Guide to Wealth, I defined being wealthy as, “Having the freedom to maximize one’s life experiences.” In those terms, despite the average American having more material wealth than citizens of most other countries (more cars, bigger houses, nicer televisions), their overall quality of life suffers in my opinion. American people on average work more hours with less vacation, spend more time commuting every day, and are saddled with over $10,000 of debt. That’s a lot of time spent working and buying crap and little time or disposable income for relationships, activities or new experiences.
6. The Rest Of The World Is Not A Slum-Ridden Shithole Compared To Us
In 2010, I got into a taxi in Bangkok to take me to a new six-story cineplex. It was accessible by metro, but I chose a taxi instead. On the seat in front of me was a sign with a wifi password. Wait, what? I asked the driver if he had wifi in his taxi. He flashed a huge smile. The squat Thai man, with his pidgin English, explained that he had installed it himself. He then turned on his new sound system and disco lights. His taxi instantly became a cheesy nightclub on wheels… with free wifi.
If there’s one constant in my travels over the past three years, it has been that almost every place I’ve visited (especially in Asia and South America) is much nicer and safer than I expected it to be. Singapore is pristine. Hong Kong makes Manhattan look like a suburb. My neighborhood in Colombia is nicer than the one I lived in in Boston (and cheaper).
As Americans, we have this naïve assumption that people all over the world are struggling and way behind us. They’re not. Sweden and South Korea have more advanced high speed internet networks. Japan has the most advanced trains and transportation systems. Norwegians make more money. The biggest and most advanced plane in the world is flown out of Singapore. The tallest buildings in the world are now in Dubai and Shanghai. Meanwhile, the US has the highest incarceration rate in the world.
What’s so surprising about the world is how unsurprising most of it is. I spent a week with some local guys in Cambodia. You know what their biggest concerns were? Paying for school, getting to work on time, and what their friends were saying about them. In Brazil, people have debt problems, hate getting stuck in traffic and complain about their overbearing mothers. Every country thinks they have the worst drivers. Every country thinks their weather is unpredictable. The world becomes, err… predictable.
7. We’re Paranoid
Not only are we emotionally insecure as a culture, but I’ve come to realize how paranoid we are about our physical security. You don’t have to watch Fox News or CNN for more than 10 minutes to hear about how our drinking water is going to kill us, our neighbor is going to rape our children, some terrorist in Yemen is going to kill us because we didn’t torture him, Mexicans are going to kill us, or some virus from a bird is going to kill us. There’s a reason we have more guns than people.
In the US, security trumps everything, even liberty. We’re paranoid.
I’ve probably been to 10 countries now that friends and family back home told me explicitly not to go because someone was going to kill me, kidnap me, stab me, rob me, rape me, sell me into sex trade, give me HIV, or whatever else. None of that has happened. I’ve never been robbed and I’ve walked through some of the shittiest parts of Asia, Latin America and Eastern Europe.
In fact, the experience has been the opposite. In countries like Russia, Colombia or Guatemala, people were so friendly it actually scared me. Some stranger in a bar would invite me to his house for a bar-b-que with his family, a random person on the street would offer to show me around and give me directions to a store I was trying to find. My American instincts were always that, “Wait, this guy is going to try to rob me or kill me,” but they never did. They were just insanely friendly.
8. We’re Status-Obsessed And Seek Attention
I’ve noticed that the way we Americans communicate is usually designed to create a lot of attention and hype. Again, I think this is a product of our consumer culture: the belief that something isn’t worthwhile or important unless it’s perceived to be the best (BEST EVER!!!) or unless it gets a lot of attention (see: every reality-television show ever made).
This is why Americans have a peculiar habit of thinking everything is “totally awesome,” and even the most mundane activities were “the best thing ever!” It’s the unconscious drive we share for importance and significance, this unmentioned belief, socially beaten into us since birth that if we’re not the best at something, then we don’t matter.
We’re status-obsessed. Our culture is built around achievement, production and being exceptional. Therefore comparing ourselves and attempting to out-do one another has infiltrated our social relationships as well. Who can slam the most beers first? Who can get reservations at the best restaurant? Who knows the promoter to the club? Who dated a girl on the cheerleading squad? Socializing becomes objectified and turned into a competition. And if you’re not winning, the implication is that you are not important and no one will like you.
9. We Are Very Unhealthy
Unless you have cancer or something equally dire, the health care system in the US sucks. The World Health Organization ranked the US 37th in the world for health care, despite the fact that we spend the most per capita by a large margin.
The hospitals are nicer in Asia (with European-educated doctors and nurses) and cost a tenth as much. Something as routine as a vaccination costs multiple hundreds of dollars in the US and less than $10 in Colombia. And before you make fun of Colombian hospitals, Colombia is 28th in the world on that WHO list, nine spots higher than us.
A routine STD test that can run you over $200 in the US is free in many countries to anyone, citizen or not. My health insurance the past year? $65 a month. Why? Because I live outside of the US. An American guy I met living in Buenos Aires got knee surgery on his ACL that would have cost $10,000 in the US… for free.
But this isn’t really getting into the real problems of our health. Our food is killing us. I’m not going to go crazy with the details, but we eat chemically-laced crap because it’s cheaper and tastes better (profit, profit). Our portion sizes are absurd (more profit). And we’re by far the most prescribed nation in the world AND our drugs cost five to ten times more than they do even in Canada (ohhhhhhh, profit, you sexy bitch).
In terms of life expectancy, despite being the richest country in the world, we come in a paltry 38th. Right behind Cuba, Malta and the United Arab Emirates, and slightly ahead of Slovenia, Kuwait and Uruguay. Enjoy your Big Mac.
10. We Mistake Comfort For Happiness
The United States is a country built on the exaltation of economic growth and personal ingenuity. Small businesses and constant growth are celebrated and supported above all else — above affordable health care, above respectable education, above everything. Americans believe it’s your responsibility to take care of yourself and make something of yourself, not the state’s, not your community’s, not even your friend’s or family’s in some instances.
Comfort sells easier than happiness. Comfort is easy. It requires no effort and no work. Happiness takes effort. It requires being proactive, confronting fears, facing difficult situations, and having unpleasant conversations.
Comfort equals sales. We’ve been sold comfort for generations and for generations we bought: bigger houses, separated further and further out into the suburbs; bigger TV’s, more movies, and take-out. The American public is becoming docile and complacent. We’re obese and entitled. When we travel, we look for giant hotels that will insulate us and pamper us rather than for legitimate cultural experiences that may challenge our perspectives or help us grow as individuals.
Depression and anxiety disorders are soaring within the US. Our inability to confront anything unpleasant around us has not only created a national sense of entitlement, but it’s disconnected us from what actually drives happiness: relationships, unique experiences, feeling self-validated, achieving personal goals. It’s easier to watch a NASCAR race on television and tweet about it than to actually get out and try something new with a friend.
Unfortunately, a by-product of our massive commercial success is that we’re able to avoid the necessary emotional struggles of life in lieu of easy superficial pleasures.
Throughout history, every dominant civilization eventually collapsed because it became TOO successful. What made it powerful and unique grows out of proportion and consumes its society. I think this is true for American society. We’re complacent, entitled and unhealthy. My generation is the first generation of Americans who will be worse off than their parents, economically, physically and emotionally. And this is not due to a lack of resources, to a lack of education or to a lack of ingenuity. It’s corruption and complacency. The corruption from the massive industries that control our government’s policies, and the fat complacency of the people to sit around and let it happen.
There are things I love about my country. I don’t hate the US and I still return to it a few times a year. But I think the greatest flaw of American culture is our blind self-absorption. In the past it only hurt other countries. But now it’s starting to hurt ourselves.
So this is my lecture to my alcoholic brother — my own flavor of arrogance and self-absorption, even if slightly more informed — in hopes he’ll give up his wayward ways. I imagine it’ll fall on deaf ears, but it’s the most I can do for now. Now if you’ll excuse me, I have some funny cat pictures to look at.
Good read. Its quite possible that some americans think that since their economics have changed so rapidly. Like they say how they were once the older brother where everyone looks up to them but not every country does. Their mentality was always "I am better than you."
However, theres so many more countries who are catching up in global causes, technology, etc... Ppl might mock china and might still look down at their country but remember that they were once very poor, and now they have established themselves, look at their army, tanks, infrastructure, global economy and even set up space shuttle... Even sent the first woman astronaut in space. This might not be impressive to most ppl... But still, its a step forward from being poor.
In fact, when I visited Mexico, the locals were so friendly and polite even they could tell I am a tourist but oftentimes visiting the states, ppl seem to be more distant and have a "No good customer service oriented attitude."
lol good read. pretty sure these are all true with canada as well. well id add "we think we are the nicest" and "we are the safest" and "we have great healthcare" to the list when we arent/dont
lol good read. pretty sure these are all true with canada as well. well id add "we think we are the nicest" and "we are the safest" and "we have great healthcare" to the list when we arent/dont
add "Translink is the best transit system in the world" to that list.
Yes, my new coworker ACTUALLY thinks that
In the recent years I've become very anti western culture.
he is right, you don't realise it till you fucking leave, and go somewhere else. then you really realise how fucked up and closed minded most people from the west are.
the west is this evil fucking pit that spews ignorance, arrogance, and hate (of course we have good stuff like, innovation, but that is quickly shrinking, and no one likes to listen to assholes).
most people that defend it, or attack others are the ones that are most deeply ingrained in the culture. They're also most likely the ones that have never left north america, and feel unsafe and "alone" when outside of their western culture.
i just hope as time goes on, as travelling becomes cheaper and easier for everyone, people will adapt a "global" culture. letting go of dogmas and other traditional cultural views.
Traveling in Europe brought me to this same conclusion. I do love it here and will stay for at least the time being but if I had the opportunity to move to Germany, France, Italy, Spain etc. I would likely take it.
The people who say "don't let the door hit you on the way out" haven't traveled.
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i disagree with ulic on Westerners being close-minded
they sometimes do have this 'we-better-than-you' mentality though
again like the article...this is just very broad generalizations.
I felt the article really hit home when it talked about how consumerism has really changed the american psyche. But really, competition and striving to be the best and outdoing everyone else really isn't a negative IMO. One can also argue that comfort can mean happiness.
One thing I did learn from the write-up is to not always be a tourist when you go traveling...try living like the locals is a pretty good idea to gain new perspectives
To be perfectly honest, I don't even think you need to leave North America to appreciate other countries. Yes, it's absolutely better that you do, but in order ot do it from your own home, you simply have to open up your mind and listen to people from other nations, even those who have immigrated here. People's other experiences and opinions are just as important as those you go through yourself.
That said, I've spent some time in Europe and it is a completely different place than North America. Generally speaking, people are far nicer over there than here, and far fewer things are "taboo" to talk about. I'd love to move to Germany, France or Italy if given the chance. It's just so much... better over there.
i disagree with ulic on Westerners being close-minded.
no, they are closed minded, and very ignorant. and if they overcome ignorance, then arrogance kicks in. it's almost always like that.
watching and listening and acting and saying "oh that's cool."
is DIFFERENT from actually participating and embracing it.
just knowing, seeing, and hearing about it is not enough. that's just some story and you're still taking your perspective on it.
closed minded is not opening your mind and actually embracing and living the other perspective.
you gotta remember the foundation of america.
it's all the christian extremists and prudes that got kicked outta europe, lol even the catholics hated them..
example would be how progressive europe is, and then people here go there and see, then come back here and MOST of the time, laugh about how weird or gay it is over there over dinner with their buddies.
there's very few people that achieve a global culture. they don't act any one culture, it's just universal.
until you achieve that level, you are still ignorant. if you choose to follow traditions or any dogmas of any culture, you're below that level. not that it's BAD. but any rational person has to admit that that's logically sound. the only reason you follow what you follow, is because you believe it is better than some other culture.
imagine a child, every year he has to move to a different country. since birth, every year being raised somewhere different. never staying in one place.
that would be a global personality. s/he would act the way PEOPLE act without borders or cultures. we, on the other hand, are not so lucky. we have to travel, and fucking force ourselves to let go of all these little comforts we identify and associate ourselves with, to truly embrace what's out there, and become a more important part of a whole.
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To be perfectly honest, I don't even think you need to leave North America to appreciate other countries.
appreciating is not enough.
watching people build the bridge, i appreciate their hard work, so i can cross the damn river.
but i don't actually embrace their work. you have to do it yourself to understand it in and out, so you can accurate gauge it in your life.
watching and listening are only a fraction of the effort required.
Oh, I completely agree, Ulic. However, for those who are unable to travel for whatever reason, the next best thing they can do is to step off their high horse and at least understand the reasons why another country is how they are.
In the recent years I've become very anti western culture.
he is right, you don't realise it till you fucking leave, and go somewhere else. then you really realise how fucked up and closed minded most people from the west are.
the west is this evil fucking pit that spews ignorance, arrogance, and hate (of course we have good stuff like, innovation, but that is quickly shrinking, and no one likes to listen to assholes).
most people that defend it, or attack others are the ones that are most deeply ingrained in the culture. They're also most likely the ones that have never left north america, and feel unsafe and "alone" when outside of their western culture.
i just hope as time goes on, as travelling becomes cheaper and easier for everyone, people will adapt a "global" culture. letting go of dogmas and other traditional cultural views.
+ 1000.
Anyways, to add my own observations to the blogger's extensive list.
I've also observed in my travels and my time outside of Canada that Western (US & Canada) views regarding sex are practically archaic. (And that's taking into account how supposedly sexualized were supposed to be coming from an MTV culture; lol go figure.).
Also,
Before I got married, partying & clubbing is more fun in practically anwhere else other than US/Canada.
Parties/clubs everywhere else IS actually about... partying. It came as a huge shock to me when I first stepped out of the country as my younger days, my environment has led me to believe that the party/club atmosphere is about...
sizing people up...
sizing other people's posse up...
posing like you're a "somebody" in Vancouver...
competing with other parties for the lions' pride...
etc.
Anywhere else I've been, you walk into a party joint, guys won't step up to you as "their competition," they actually come to you (guy or girl) because it's a party and everyone should be drinking' and hangin' together; and by everyone I mean both guys and girls.
Seriously... In my previous observation, it's almost a night and day difference.
Oh, and whoever said the "transit" comment is right fucking on.
I've been to Europe myself and it's a great place to be if you're middle class and have a secure public sector job or a job with a big company. But if you're dark-skinned, and are under-privileged, it's a pretty shitty place to be. Germany is the only country that's doing well - all of the other countries are in the tank compared to developing countries in Asia.
Has anyone spent time in any of the immigrant ghettos outside of Paris, for example?
I've been to Europe myself and it's a great place to be if you're middle class and have a secure public sector job or a job with a big company. But if you're dark-skinned, and are under-privileged, it's a pretty shitty place to be. Germany is the only country that's doing well - all of the other countries are in the tank compared to developing countries in Asia.
Has anyone spent time in any of the immigrant ghettos outside of Paris, for example?
Sad but true.
I've only heard stories about the certain suburbs outside Paris. My French roommate/co-worker when I was in London was telling me how it's becoming ghetto like the slums in the states.
France is pretty bad outside Paris, but Spain, Italy, Poland, Germany, Holland, Austria etc. are all quite nice. Even in the pooer areas. Everyone seems a lot more content with what they have and live a solid life. I think overall the wealth is lower but it's more even. There is not a big gap between the wealthy and poor (aside from your obvious places like Monaco, St. Tropaz etc.
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In the recent years I've become very anti western culture.
he is right, you don't realise it till you fucking leave, and go somewhere else. then you really realise how fucked up and closed minded most people from the west are.
the west is this evil fucking pit that spews ignorance, arrogance, and hate (of course we have good stuff like, innovation, but that is quickly shrinking, and no one likes to listen to assholes).
most people that defend it, or attack others are the ones that are most deeply ingrained in the culture. They're also most likely the ones that have never left north america, and feel unsafe and "alone" when outside of their western culture.
i just hope as time goes on, as travelling becomes cheaper and easier for everyone, people will adapt a "global" culture. letting go of dogmas and other traditional cultural views.
i could not agree more Ulic
the extent to which people are closed minded here is fucking ridiculous. for the most part, one would try and tell people here other ways of doing things, or different perspectives, and they shun you. they may even get mad. they may not see ANY value or advantage. they may even drop the line "well everyone is different". No you asshole, youre a fucking human being too whose sperm just happened to take a left turn.
the mainstream media is the epitome of ignorance, arrogance and hate. people gobble up this CNN bullshit." America is out there to save the world".
Most people lack any critical thinking. They cannot even comprehend the fact that with some basic knowledge of history, intent/purpose, or bias....with these facets they can really see why some things are the way they are.
its disgusting how many people cannot even think for themselves. it probably scares them. or they most likely lack a foundation of general knowledge we were suppose to been have taught in even our very shitty education system.
you would be surprised how when you try to bring up basic principles of the scientific method, or even logical reasoning/fallacies ...how many people fail to understand just a spec of what you are getting at
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