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MR_BIGGS 08-06-2012 07:30 AM

More information coming out.

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The suspected gunman was a former U.S. Army “psychological operations specialist,” the Pentagon said Monday.
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According to the Pentagon, Mr. Page was a qualified parachutist who received a commendation medal, five achievement medals, two good conduct medals, the National Defense Service Medal and a Humanitarian Service Medal.

But he left with the relatively junior enlisted rank of Specialist E-4.
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Mr. Page had been a member of the racist skinhead band End Apathy, based in Fayetteville, North Carolina, in 2010, said Heidi Beirich, director of the intelligence project at the Southern Poverty Law Center in Montgomery, Alabama.

Mr. Page also tried to buy goods from the National Alliance, a neo-Nazi group, in 2000, she said.
Sikh temple shooting suspect was former U.S. Army specialist - The Globe and Mail

4444 08-06-2012 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by bballguy (Post 7995425)
Yes, absolutely....if you receive a bout of racism involving somebody walking into a temple and shooting you, either calmly walk away knowing you aren't ignorant or be a little baby and react to it. Yes, absolutely.

/sarcasm.

I wish you had the intelligence to read, my comment was made in context

Murdering people is not an act of racism, it is a hate crime (in the case you speak of), an atrocity

My last comment here, bc I really can't stand the lack of open minds here, is that all the ppl who straight away said 'bet he's white' etc, are no better than the ignorant white trash that blame all dark skinned person for 9/11, for this, for that

It's just proving my point that all races, creeds, colours, religions are full of ignorant turds - man of whom live in Vancouver, like every other city

Such a sad world we live in

bballguy 08-06-2012 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 4444 (Post 7995481)
I wish you had the intelligence to read, my comment was made in context

Murdering people is not an act of racism, it is a hate crime (in the case you speak of), an atrocity

...You were making a statement in response to the "guy who is moving to Washington." He stated that events like these made him nervous about going....therefore, if you are speaking in general terms, your comment was actually made OUT of context, because the event that is being referred to in this thread IS an act of racism via hate crime.

Roach 08-06-2012 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by 4444 (Post 7995481)

Murdering people is not an act of racism, it is a hate crime (in the case you speak of), an atrocity

So then what fuels a hate crime?

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Originally Posted by 4444 (Post 7995481)
all the ppl who straight away said 'bet he's white' etc, are no better than the ignorant white trash that blame all dark skinned person for 9/11, for this, for that

The second post has an eyewitness stating the shooter was a white male.

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 7994799)
One of the temple's committee members, Ven Boba Ri, told the Journal Sentinel that based on communication with people inside the temple, the shooter was a white male in his 30s.

Read more: Shooting at Sikh temple in Wisconsin leaves at least 7 dead | Fox News


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Originally Posted by 4444 (Post 7995481)
It's just proving my point that all races, creeds, colours, religions are full of ignorant turds - man of whom live in Vancouver, like every other city

Such a sad world we live in

I highly suggest you take your advice and use your intelligence to re-read this thread before waxing poetic about the inherent racism here.

To be honest, your interjections in this thread have been downright insulting. This is a hate crime. The FBI has labelled this an act of domestic terrorism. Since 9/11 there have been 700 cases of hate crimes against Sikhs in the United States. To try and downplay our concerns as being racially motivated is fucking bullshit.

Kev

Jason00S2000 08-06-2012 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jah Dean (Post 7995132)
And it's a fact that parts of XXXXXX will not accept you if your ______ isn't _____ no matter how hard you try to join


There is no place on earth that will accept anyone who practices anything

Manic! 08-06-2012 04:29 PM

Documentary on the treatment of Sikhs in America after 9/11


parm104 08-06-2012 05:13 PM


Now this gentleman is a true hero in purest form. A public servant putting his life on the line to perform that service. As a former armed forces member the attacker could never be considered a hero for service to his country for he never served for the citizens who make up this great American nation. Officer Brian Murphy you are the ideal that those who aspire to serve the greater good of the nation should strive for and hope to grow beyond. Thank you for being who you are and were meant to be.

StylinRed 08-06-2012 06:12 PM

yeah just heard that on cnn very awesome officer cnn said he had a vest on and was hit around 9X


the shooters army buddy was interviewed by Anderson Cooper, and he said he was always a very cheerful guy but had racist views and talked about an impending holy war and initially it didn't seem like something he was serious about but after not seeing him for several years the shooters attitude had changed quite drastically which was concerning to his army buddy and he hadn't had contact with him since then

his army buddy had also said that the shooter was demoted and discharged from the military due to drinking and showing up to drills/meetings drunk

van_city23 08-06-2012 08:48 PM

http://img.viame-cdn.com/photos/2ccb...8/r600x600.jpg

goo3 08-07-2012 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 4444 (Post 7995241)
It should also be said, it's not just white ppl who are racist, all races can be, and are racist.

LOL, I laugh whenever I hear this. You must get this impression from watching the news and chatter that non-white ppl believe ONLY white ppl are racist! Or maybe it's a defense mechanism. I hear it a lot from white ppl who grew up further out, isolated from what happens on the ground, as if they're telling us some masterful revelation! Anyone else have this experience?

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My last comment here, bc I really can't stand the lack of open minds here, is that all the ppl who straight away said 'bet he's white' etc, are no better than the ignorant white trash that blame all dark skinned person for 9/11, for this, for that
A consistent analogy would be:

Shoot up temple - bet he's white
Blow up airport - be he's muslim

Whereas you massaged it to make an emotional point:
9/11 - Blame all dark skinned ppl.

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It's just proving my point that all races, creeds, colours, religions are full of ignorant turds - man of whom live in Vancouver, like every other city
On a side note, I find Vancouver overall to be pretty sophisticated regarding this stuff. For example, I don't find discussing melting pot vs mosaic to be very productive because it's more of an ideological argument that has very little to do with what happens on the ground. It's a marketing message brought to you by govt more than anything, so I'm glad I don't have to hear about how one is good and the other is evil, LOL. WTF.

StylinRed 08-07-2012 03:53 PM

semi-related i suppose a Mosque in Joplin Missouri was just burned to the ground it was the 2nd time arsons targeted it this summer this time succeeding

The Associated Press: Joplin mosque razed in fire; 2nd blaze this summer

Revive 08-07-2012 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by StylinRed (Post 7996787)
semi-related i suppose a Mosque in Joplin Missouri was just burned to the ground it was the 2nd time arsons targeted it this summer this time succeeding ......

Semi-related? Not even fuken close........

PLEASE DON'T GROUP SIKH AND MUSLIMS AS ONE. Its shit/views like this, that has made it hard for SIKHS since 9/11.

StylinRed 08-07-2012 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Revive (Post 7997194)
Semi-related? Not even fuken close........

PLEASE DON'T GROUP SIKH AND MUSLIMS AS ONE. Its shit/views like this, that has made it hard for SIKHS since 9/11.

the sikhs were targeted because the guy thought they were muslims and its a case of further acts of hate crimes within a close time proximity within middle america

yeah they're semi-related

bballguy 08-07-2012 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Revive (Post 7997194)
Semi-related? Not even fuken close........

PLEASE DON'T GROUP SIKH AND MUSLIMS AS ONE. Its shit/views like this, that has made it hard for SIKHS since 9/11.

Congrats on your first fails.

Revive 08-07-2012 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CharlesInCharge (Post 7995366)
I think the son of the temple is making a political video against corporations, the father founded the temple, so this shooting could have a political angle to it.

Please don't be an ignorant dick like the rest of America. There is no political bullshit to any of this. Learn the religion and its teachings. Its probably one of the most giving, caring, non-selfish religions out there (and by no means am I dogging other religions).

bballguy 08-07-2012 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Revive (Post 7997209)
Please don't be an ignorant dick like the rest of America.

Oh the irony...

parm104 08-07-2012 10:54 PM

Tea Party...but still...

Michele Bachmann Thankful No Americans Died In Sikh Shooting | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

StylinRed 08-07-2012 10:58 PM

^^^ the onion

MindBomber 08-07-2012 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by parm104 (Post 7997229)

The Onion - the article is entirely fictional.

I must say, I was appalled that the parody news site would use such a tragic story as the basis of joke. The Onion is the democrat equivalent of Fox.

parm104 08-07-2012 11:06 PM

LOL thanks guys, I know it's a parody site but the idea behind it is still disgusting. A week hasn't even passed and people are already making jokes about the people who passed.


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